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02-22-2012, 02:50 PM
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That's all I wanted to know.

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Pretty embarrassing for the HFBoards and the posters

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Why did he randomly insult the entire city of Anaheim?
I think because he's still young..

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Why did he randomly insult the entire city of Anaheim?
Where did he randomly insult the entire city of Anaheim?


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Where did he randomly insult the entire city of Anaheim?


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I live in Anaheim, and I'm not sure we would hear about it if Getzlaf was banging Mrs. Samueli at centre ice during practices while Parros gave him tips on technique and Boudreau filmed it.

And if we did, we'd find out on hfboards, not from the OC Register...

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02-23-2012, 12:14 PM
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Hopefully, in the future, Subban will make articles in generalist sport media for his actual on-ice game, not for his agitator skills.

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ESPN is using HFboards for their stories?
Oh dear god...
This comment isn't worth even one classless Subban.

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02-23-2012, 01:01 PM
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Damn the comments section of that ESPN article makes hfboards look like some kind of ivy league debate society... Apparently a lot of angry, semi-literate Bruins & Flyers fans hanging out at espn.com.

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02-23-2012, 01:22 PM
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I live in Anaheim, and I'm not sure we would hear about it if Getzlaf was banging Mrs. Samueli at centre ice during practices while Parros gave him tips on technique and Boudreau filmed it.

And if we did, we'd find out on hfboards, not from the OC Register...
Let's not overdo it.

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02-23-2012, 01:40 PM
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Intellectually, you may be right. But factually? It's just been the blanket designation for black peoples. And some black activists have really weird arguments put forward (example: "only descendants ofn slaves should be called black").

Irish-Americans, etc... All steem from a nationality or a country. Africa is neither. Hell, last time I checked, there was a big lot of non-black people living in American. Will you call Morrocans, Algerians and Egyptians African-Americans too?

Nah, you call them Arabs (which irks the pedantic part of me when Maghrebian countries are adressed), or Muslims (which is 100x worse).

The whole issue was simply streched as yet one more issue black activists could protest and raise up against, and it made the whole civil rights issue lose a lot of focus, IMHO..
While I believe the entire African-American thing is silly for completely different reasons, the post you are commenting on, was spot on. As a group, the blacks of the US have designated that distinction for themselves. Who am I or you as white people to question that, especially a native Canadian? What do you know about their culture or identity except what you read in a book or studied in a Cultural Studies class? It's not up to us to decide anything for anyone else of this nature nor criticize it.

From what I understand, because so many slaves were brought over from the various areas in Africa, it was/is impossible to determine where alot of folks precisely came from. So, a blanket term was used as it was the most applicable term to use, to encompass the whole. It's not a big deal at all. It works and the answer that you are trying to complicate is very simple.

What civil rights issue? What are you talking about? Jim Crow Laws are over, so is the African-American fight for civil rights and it ended a long time before the African-American term was ever used. There are other issues that are being addressed but they are not civil right ones. Maybe enforcement of those hard fought civil rights but the actual battle has been over for a long time.

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Damn the comments section of that ESPN article makes hfboards look like some kind of ivy league debate society... Apparently a lot of angry, semi-literate Bruins & Flyers fans hanging out at espn.com.
ESPN boards are where trolls go after being banned from HF.

No, seriously. Go to the NHL section and mention this site. It's literally a bunch of former HF trolls, sitting around trolling each other without mods.

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02-23-2012, 01:57 PM
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The term "black" came into widespread use during the civil rights era, so doesn't have the baggage of earlier terms adopted during more controversial eras.

The term "African-American" was kind of promoted heavily during Jesse Jackson's presidential run, himself a very controversial and dividing figure.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/28816/bla...-american.aspx

1/5 having a preference to African-American and slightly less preffering black. But the vast majority having no preference.

So basically there should be no controversy on using either "black" or "african-american". To me though, the latter is a very clumsy expression, that is long, and doesn't fit with many cases such as non-black africans, or blacks from the Caribbean or Latin America.

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Let's not overdo it.
True. TMZ would pick up that story, and they're local media

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ESPN has to be pretty hurting for stories if they are quoting me, LOL.

To set the record straight, I was defending Subban in one of those 'disrespect' threads. My point is that IMO the NHL old boys club doesn't like a hockey player acting with the bravado, brashness and attitude of an American black athlete. I actually love Subban's personality on the ice and love that he keeps on smiling. My only quarrell with him this season is that I wish he'd play better.

Point is, there is a double standard when people talk about the stuff Subban does vis a vis other players. Everything he does is blown out of proportion in comparison to other players.

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