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02-23-2012, 02:41 PM
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What happened to not wanting to take anymore big contracts? If people were against Derek Roy, how the hell could we sign Carter?

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02-23-2012, 02:42 PM
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What happened to not wanting to take anymore big contracts? If people were against Derek Roy, how the hell could we sign Carter?
Derek Roy is 1 yr away from UFA , Small and weak defensively

Those are issues with Roy in comparision to Carter

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02-23-2012, 02:42 PM
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Hopefully the BJs ask for Saad + Leddy.

If they get him for a package of Hammer+ picks/Frolik/Pirri/Olsen they should just fire Howson before the trade is faxed over to the NHL.
Saad and Leddy aren't worth it, Howson would still be a dumbasss to accept that trade considering what they gave up. Anyways, I don't see it happening, Cbus might as well keep him if they plan on being a real hockey team.

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02-23-2012, 02:44 PM
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How can Chicago afford Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, Carter, and still acquire a capable goaltender?

If Carter's on his way in, someone else is on their way out.

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02-23-2012, 02:44 PM
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Saad and Leddy aren't worth it, Howson would still be a dumbasss to accept that trade considering what they gave up. Anyways, I don't see it happening, Cbus might as well keep him if they plan on being a real hockey team.
Given Carter's play , costs to team longterm , His hate of being in Columbus , etc

They have to move him. Cant have a guy who hates being there sulking every game , every year

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02-23-2012, 02:47 PM
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How can Chicago afford Toews, Kane, Hossa, Keith, Seabrook, Carter, and still acquire a capable goaltender?

If Carter's on his way in, someone else is on their way out.
Cause Bowman dumped one of the worst contracts in NHL and his UFA's last summer were mostly 1 and done

Hawks also have plenty of cheap young talent NHL ready or on verge of NHL ready

Longterm moving Hjalmarsson is possible as Olsen has shown he can play at NHL level

But for next several years Hawks could fit Carter and be comfortable going forward. And Hawks still believe in Crawford so they wont be looking for a starter. If they do it wont be a high cost guy

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02-23-2012, 02:50 PM
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Given Carter's play , costs to team longterm , His hate of being in Columbus , etc

They have to move him. Cant have a guy who hates being there sulking every game , every year
Let me guess, you based that solely on what the media tells you without watching Carter play? Carter has been one of our best scoring forwards and does not look unhappy whatsoever. Just because our pissed off beatwriter is writing they want to get rid of him doesnt mean its entirely true. He's been wrong on many accounts before this. He also has never written anything about Carter being unhappy, bc he cant confirm it. That right there should tell you the reliability of his "sources". Quite frankly, Portzline doesnt know jack **** when it comes to trades or any of that biz. Hes a reporter that watches the games and does interviews. I love how people see a few links and run with it like its pure fact.

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When it comes down to it given who source is + the length of Carter's contract I dont see Hawks going for it

If they did though ,,, It would be fun

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Given Carter's play , costs to team longterm , His hate of being in Columbus , etc

They have to move him. Cant have a guy who hates being there sulking every game , every year
He's not playing that badly though, despite injury he's still contributing (.65ppg). It's not Carter's fault that the team has no chemistry. I agree they have to trade someone with such a piss poor attitude, but how can Columbus hope to get better if they keep making these trades.

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02-23-2012, 02:51 PM
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Let me guess, you based that solely on what the media tells you without watching Carter play? Carter has been one of our best scoring forwards and does not look unhappy whatsoever. Just because our pissed off beatwriter is writing they want to get rid of him doesnt mean its entirely true. He's been wrong on many accounts before this. He also has never written anything about Carter being unhappy, bc he cant confirm it. That right there should tell you the reliability of his "sources". Quite frankly, Portzline doesnt know jack **** when it comes to trades or any of that biz. Hes a reporter that watches the games and does interviews. I love how people see a few links and run with it like its pure fact.

Sorry but Carter refusing to speak to media or Jackets GM after trade , Various sources from well established guys like Bobby Mac saying he is miserable and wants out , His lax effort at times this year (Just look at his play vs Hawks this past weekend defensively) show he wants out

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02-23-2012, 02:54 PM
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Sorry but Carter refusing to speak to media or Jackets GM after trade , Various sources from well established guys like Bobby Mac saying he is miserable and wants out , His lax effort at times this year (Just look at his play vs Hawks this past weekend defensively) show he wants out
Going on one game where they got destroyed? Yea that makes all the difference. His refusing to speak to the media is understandable. The guy just signed a life long contract to play for Philly and had a handshake agreement he wouldnt be traded. He'd be pissed no matter where he went. Find me the BobbyMac tweet.

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02-23-2012, 03:01 PM
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1. It's hockeybuzz...
2. Hawks won't add him
3. If they do, I wouldn't be against it

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02-23-2012, 03:02 PM
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Could see CBJ doing this if the value is there in Chicago.

Morin and a 2nd maybe?

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02-23-2012, 03:06 PM
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Could see CBJ doing this if the value is there in Chicago.

Morin and a 2nd maybe?
Too much for Bowman to give.

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02-23-2012, 03:07 PM
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so yesterday it was carter to chicago and today hes (supposedly) on the move is this another shot at eklund?

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02-23-2012, 03:09 PM
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Not sure why people are saying the Hawks won't go for Carter because of his contract... Do we forget what deal Hossa has, as well as Keith?

Carter would solve many needs. If Emery is supposedly on his way out, maybe Hammer goes with him and a 1st plus a mid prospect...

Not getting our blue chips in Saad and McNeil.

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02-23-2012, 03:10 PM
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No, No, No and more No.

Bowman hangs up the phone the moment he hears Carter's name. Bad locker room guy, soft player, shows no effort, and has 10 years on a contract.

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02-23-2012, 03:14 PM
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No, No, No and more No.

Bowman hangs up the phone the moment he hears Carter's name. Bad locker room guy, soft player, shows no effort, and has 10 years on a contract.
Bad locker room guy.. false
Soft player?... false
shows no effort? false.
has 10 more years on a contract.. true.

Again, not sure why you're concerned with his contract considering the ones we have on our roster... would be pretty hypocritical to think in that manner.

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Bad locker room guy.. true
Soft player?... true
shows no effort? true
has 10 more years on a contract.. true.

Again, not sure why you're concerned with his contract considering the ones we have on our roster... would be pretty hypocritical to think in that manner.
fixed for you.

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02-23-2012, 03:18 PM
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Derek Roy is 1 yr away from UFA , Small and weak defensively

Those are issues with Roy in comparision to Carter
Nope. Worse defensively than Carter at ES, yeah, but not bad defensively.

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02-23-2012, 03:19 PM
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fixed for you.
Bad locker room guy? He likes to party like an other mid 20 year old multi millionaire.
Soft player? Ask Ansii Salmela how his head is doing.
Shows no effort? Didn't he come back earlier than he should've to help Philly against in the playoffs with a metal rod in his broken foot?

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Bad locker room guy? He likes to party like an other mid 20 year old multi millionaire.
Soft player? Ask Ansii Salmela how his head is doing.
Shows no effort? Didn't he come back earlier than he should've to help Philly against in the playoffs with a metal rod in his broken foot?
You're talking about the past Carter. I'm talking about the present Carter.

We can agree to disagree, hope he never puts on an indian head jersey.

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If so Carter has found his next partner in crime... Pat Kane

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Sorry but Carter refusing to speak to media or Jackets GM after trade ,
I find it hard to fault the guy for having some aggravation during this time. He signed a discount contract to get a long term deal with a NTC, that was yanked out from under him to go to Columbus. So now he's got a long term contract and no say in where he will play for 11 years. It would piss me off too. But, what did he really do wrong?

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Bad locker room guy.. false
Soft player?... false
shows no effort? false.
has 10 more years on a contract.. true.

Again, not sure why you're concerned with his contract considering the ones we have on our roster... would be pretty hypocritical to think in that manner.
its because of the existing contracts that we cannot put another big contract on there...to much risk

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