HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > New York Rangers
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Nash Rumors Part VI: Carter to LA; Nash next to move?

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
02-23-2012, 08:45 PM
  #226
ColonialsHockey10
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 9,667
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nyr2k2 View Post
Slats has leverage. Make a good trade, Glennie.
Definitely more confident then I was a few days ago about this. If that's all Carter got, I'm pretty confident about what Nash would cost.

ColonialsHockey10 is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:46 PM
  #227
Vitto79
Registered User
 
Vitto79's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Sarnia
Country: Canada
Posts: 16,878
vCash: 500
NYR are on the clock.......They do need to know soon as they will make other moves if not

Just be patient Glen, People think Carter should of got more....Dubinsky, Force them to take Wolski back for the salary cap, Zuccarello, Thomas, 1st

If they can hold onto McIlrath do it. If he has to go he goes. No other top prospects. Hang up and make other moves if they ask for Kreider, Erixon, Miller

Vitto79 is online now  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:48 PM
  #228
BBKers
Registered User
 
BBKers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: South Koster, Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 5,941
vCash: 500
Send a message via Skype™ to BBKers
CBJ SUBTRACTIONS
  • Rick Nash - 2002 1st overall draftpick /1st Round CBJ
  • Jakub Voráček - 2007 7th Overall Pick /1st Round CBJ
  • Sean Couturier - 2011 8th Overall pick / 1st Round chosen by Philadelphia
  • Nick Cousins - 2011 68th overall pick / 3rd round chosen by Philadelphia

CBJ ADDITIONS
  • Jack "MF" Johnson - 2005 3rd overall pick / 1st round by LA Kings
  • Brandon Dubinsky 2004 60th overall pick / 2nd round chosen by NYR
  • Christian Thomas - 2010 40th overall pick / 2nd round chosen by NYR
  • Dylan McIlraith - 10th overall pick 2010 / 1st round chosen by NYR
  • LA Kings 2012 conditional 1st round pick / 2012 (predicted 12 - 20) or 2013 ??
  • New York Rangers 2012 1st round pick (predicted 24 - 30)

Call it a day - BJs get younger, add 2 bodies and get to start over
Ouch!!

BBKers is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:49 PM
  #229
JoeRangers
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Staten Island, NY
Country: United States
Posts: 389
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by German Way of War View Post
So LA got Carter and Richards for Brayden Schenn, JJ, Wayne Simmonds and a 10-15th pick?

I guess that's pretty good.
Its even better if they both get back to putting up 30 goals and 30 assists each.

JoeRangers is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:49 PM
  #230
pwoz
Registered User
 
pwoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,545
vCash: 500
But McIlrath was supposed to be the next Beukeboom!




pwoz is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:51 PM
  #231
BrianLeetch2
Registered User
 
BrianLeetch2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Toms River NJ
Country: United States
Posts: 708
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to BrianLeetch2 Send a message via MSN to BrianLeetch2
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stugots View Post
Sather: "Why the hell do you need another 1st? You just got one!"

BrianLeetch2 is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:52 PM
  #232
broadwayblue
Registered User
 
broadwayblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 15,831
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitto79 View Post
NYR are on the clock.......They do need to know soon as they will make other moves if not

Just be patient Glen, People think Carter should of got more....Dubinsky, Force them to take Wolski back for the salary cap, Zuccarello, Thomas, 1st

If they can hold onto McIlrath do it. If he has to go he goes. No other top prospects. Hang up and make other moves if they ask for Kreider, Erixon, Miller
Forget about WW...he's a non factor. I'd rather get an extra player back or send a lower level prospect instead. No need asking for any "favors" when they aren't needed.

broadwayblue is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:52 PM
  #233
smoneil
Registered User
 
smoneil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Rochester
Country: United States
Posts: 2,291
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henriks Broadway Hat View Post
Ok, so don't make yourself look silly by saying that Dubi isn't getting points because he's paired with those 2, because that is not where he started the season. Again, Hagelin started on the third line, and is now on the 1b line. Anisimov went down to the 4th line, but played himself out of it, and the GAS line was reunited. Those 2 elevated their games. Dubi has regressed, by a large margin.
Dubinsky hasn't regressed, and his decrease in scoring isn't due to his linemates. He's also VERY unlikely (IMO) to blow up the score-sheet in the next two games. He's having a down season. How many times with how many players have we seen this happen? The whole team started the season slowly, and when the rest of the team broke out of it, Dubi had that stretch of games where he was completely snake-bitten. It got into his head. He's always been more of a pass than shoot kind of player, but this year he's been passing when it is CLEAR that he is the best shooting option. He doesn't have any confidence in his shot right now, so he's just stopped using it.

To his credit, he's stepped up the other aspects of his game (defense, cycling, board play, etc). It's just like a pitcher whose mechanics are off a bit. A regression is what happened to Drury and Gomez. Dubi just needs to get his confidence in his shot back, and that's tough to do during the season (when screwing up can cost the team points). If he's not traded, I'd guess he snaps out of it in the playoffs (less time to think=Dubi playing more on instinct) or, at the latest, next season.

As for the Dubi/Ani debate, I think both of them are best served on a line together, to be perfectly honest. Ani's defense allows Dubinsky to get into the attack more, and Dubinsky's faceoff ability allows Anisimov to play his natural position. I just don't see Anisimov as a permanent LW.

smoneil is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:53 PM
  #234
NHRangerfan
enfoonts
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New Hampshire
Country: United States
Posts: 3,091
vCash: 500
Kevin Paul Dupont ‏ @GlobeKPD
So Nash is out in LA. Still think he lands in Philly. JVR and Couturier at center of return.

NHRangerfan is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:56 PM
  #235
Rangers Fail
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
Rangers Fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 19,841
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoneil View Post
Dubinsky hasn't regressed, and his decrease in scoring isn't due to his linemates. He's also VERY unlikely (IMO) to blow up the score-sheet in the next two games. He's having a down season. How many times with how many players have we seen this happen? The whole team started the season slowly, and when the rest of the team broke out of it, Dubi had that stretch of games where he was completely snake-bitten. It got into his head. He's always been more of a pass than shoot kind of player, but this year he's been passing when it is CLEAR that he is the best shooting option. He doesn't have any confidence in his shot right now, so he's just stopped using it.

To his credit, he's stepped up the other aspects of his game (defense, cycling, board play, etc). It's just like a pitcher whose mechanics are off a bit. A regression is what happened to Drury and Gomez. Dubi just needs to get his confidence in his shot back, and that's tough to do during the season (when screwing up can cost the team points). If he's not traded, I'd guess he snaps out of it in the playoffs (less time to think=Dubi playing more on instinct) or, at the latest, next season.

As for the Dubi/Ani debate, I think both of them are best served on a line together, to be perfectly honest. Ani's defense allows Dubinsky to get into the attack more, and Dubinsky's faceoff ability allows Anisimov to play his natural position. I just don't see Anisimov as a permanent LW.
Maybe he steps it up in the playoffs. Or maybe the extra pressure just screws him up even more. With the season he's had, it's hard to say what will happen.

Rangers Fail is online now  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:56 PM
  #236
Tony D63
Tortsless Rangers
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York
Country: United States
Posts: 4,272
vCash: 500
I can see Nash going to philly now that CBJ got Johnson.

Tony D63 is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:57 PM
  #237
nevesis
#30
 
nevesis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NY
Posts: 11,769
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by smoneil View Post
Dubinsky hasn't regressed, and his decrease in scoring isn't due to his linemates. He's also VERY unlikely (IMO) to blow up the score-sheet in the next two games. He's having a down season. How many times with how many players have we seen this happen? The whole team started the season slowly, and when the rest of the team broke out of it, Dubi had that stretch of games where he was completely snake-bitten. It got into his head. He's always been more of a pass than shoot kind of player, but this year he's been passing when it is CLEAR that he is the best shooting option. He doesn't have any confidence in his shot right now, so he's just stopped using it.

To his credit, he's stepped up the other aspects of his game (defense, cycling, board play, etc). It's just like a pitcher whose mechanics are off a bit. A regression is what happened to Drury and Gomez. Dubi just needs to get his confidence in his shot back, and that's tough to do during the season (when screwing up can cost the team points). If he's not traded, I'd guess he snaps out of it in the playoffs (less time to think=Dubi playing more on instinct) or, at the latest, next season.

As for the Dubi/Ani debate, I think both of them are best served on a line together, to be perfectly honest. Ani's defense allows Dubinsky to get into the attack more, and Dubinsky's faceoff ability allows Anisimov to play his natural position. I just don't see Anisimov as a permanent LW.
I don't want to hear it.

He makes $4+ Million a year to produce. He isn't. He worked his ass off to GET that contract and now disappears?

I make what he does in one game, in a year. If I started not producing at my job, I would be fired. You can't afford to have a 'down year' in most professions.

Dubinsky is never going to be a 40 goal scorer...he's been here since 2006-07. What you see, is what you get.

Rick Nash is a HUGE upgrade over Dubinsky. He is a true CANADIAN badass hockey player with size, AND is only two years older than Dubinsky. He will be here for a while and will score many goals.

You have to make the move now.

nevesis is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:57 PM
  #238
KingWantsCup
Super Saiyan Hank
 
KingWantsCup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,541
vCash: 350
After that terrible return Sather can offer this for Nash and then blow smoke in Howsen's face.

Wolski, Thomas, McIlrath, 2012 1st.



Seriously, if Sather could somehow spare Dubinsky while shipping out Wolski for Nash supplemented with the aforementioned picks and prospects it would be his best trade ever.

Then again, maybe this Carter trade is giving me a little too much hope.

KingWantsCup is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:57 PM
  #239
Bob Richards
Global Moderator
Mr. Mojo Risin'
 
Bob Richards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 48,396
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRangerfan View Post
Kevin Paul Dupont ‏ @GlobeKPD
So Nash is out in LA. Still think he lands in Philly. JVR and Couturier at center of return.
That makes zero sense for philly. Their D and Goaltending still sucks.

Bob Richards is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:58 PM
  #240
Rangers Fail
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
Rangers Fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 19,841
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRangerfan View Post
Kevin Paul Dupont ‏ @GlobeKPD
So Nash is out in LA. Still think he lands in Philly. JVR and Couturier at center of return.
Obviously, Philly needs MOAR OFFENSE!!

If that's true, Holmgren is truly wrong in the head, although he already showed that by giving Bryz 9 years, 51 million, lol.

Rangers Fail is online now  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:58 PM
  #241
New York RKY
Moderator
Let's Go Rangers!
 
New York RKY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dirty Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 12,135
vCash: 500
Is Philly going to beat teams 8-7 in the playoffs?

__________________
New York RKY is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:58 PM
  #242
Stugots
Kolo, Kolo Kolo!
 
Stugots's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Long Island
Country: United States
Posts: 6,389
vCash: 500
From Dreger: Dustin Brown's avail also puts heat on CBJ to make decision on Nash...soon. NYR,Tor Philly, just to name a few are interested. #TradeCentre


I wonder what LA would want for Brown?

Stugots is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:58 PM
  #243
KingWantsCup
Super Saiyan Hank
 
KingWantsCup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 5,541
vCash: 350
Why would Philly need Nash? They need all the defense, and even goal tending they can get.

KingWantsCup is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 08:59 PM
  #244
JeffMangum
I'm v
 
JeffMangum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Listening to music
Country: United States
Posts: 58,772
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by NHRangerfan View Post
Kevin Paul Dupont ‏ @GlobeKPD
So Nash is out in LA. Still think he lands in Philly. JVR and Couturier at center of return.
Pretty sure they have/had a whole thread on the B's forum bashing this guy.

It's this:

NYR
Nowhere


*****HUGE GAP*****


SJ/TOR

__________________
Soon.
JeffMangum is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 09:00 PM
  #245
Rangers Fail
4 8 15 16 23 42
 
Rangers Fail's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: NY
Country: United States
Posts: 19,841
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by New York RKY View Post
Is Philly going to beat teams 8-7 in the playoffs?
Nope. The Jets beat them 9-8,

And
Darren Dreger ‏ @DarrenDreger

Dustin Brown's avail also puts heat on CBJ to make decision on Nash...soon. NYR,Tor Philly, just to name a few are interested.

Rangers Fail is online now  
Old
02-23-2012, 09:01 PM
  #246
Deathdealer
Registered User
 
Deathdealer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Poughkeepsie
Country: United States
Posts: 161
vCash: 500
as i said befor, dubi and parts for nash. gabby for brown... get it done

Deathdealer is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 09:02 PM
  #247
CH2
Registered User
 
CH2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,361
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stugots View Post
From Dreger: Dustin Brown's avail also puts heat on CBJ to make decision on Nash...soon. NYR,Tor Philly, just to name a few are interested. #TradeCentre


I wonder what LA would want for Brown?
Why would they trade him now? Why not wait until the offseason?

CH2 is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 09:02 PM
  #248
broadwayblue
Registered User
 
broadwayblue's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: NYC
Country: United States
Posts: 15,831
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by nevesis View Post
I don't want to hear it.

He makes $4+ Million a year to produce. He isn't. He worked his ass off to GET that contract and now disappears?

I make what he does in one game, in a year. If I started not producing at my job, I would be fired. You can't afford to have a 'down year' in most professions.

Dubinsky is never going to be a 40 goal scorer...he's been here since 2006-07. What you see, is what you get.

Rick Nash is a HUGE upgrade over Dubinsky. He is a true CANADIAN badass hockey player with size, AND is only two years older than Dubinsky. He will be here for a while and will score many goals.

You have to make the move now.
Sports are not like other professions. Many athletes have down years and that's just how it goes sometimes. Not sure how there's any connection between Dubinsky having a bad season and HAVING to make a trade for Nash. lol

broadwayblue is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 09:02 PM
  #249
Bob Richards
Global Moderator
Mr. Mojo Risin'
 
Bob Richards's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Jersey
Country: United States
Posts: 48,396
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deathdealer View Post
as i said befor, dubi and parts for nash. gabby for brown... get it done
Please never post this again. Thank you.

Bob Richards is offline  
Old
02-23-2012, 09:02 PM
  #250
JeffMangum
I'm v
 
JeffMangum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Listening to music
Country: United States
Posts: 58,772
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henriks Broadway Hat View Post
Nope. The Jets beat them 9-8,

And
Darren Dreger ‏ @DarrenDreger

Dustin Brown's avail also puts heat on CBJ to make decision on Nash...soon. NYR,Tor Philly, just to name a few are interested.
Not sure if he's saying those teams are interested in Brown or Nash.

I asked him on Twitter.

JeffMangum is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:25 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2015 All Rights Reserved.