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02-23-2012, 10:50 PM
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Haha, fair enough.

I like Dustin Brown and I'll be happy to talk about how no one else in the league even comes close to him in terms of the ability to draw penalties once he gets traded to Detroit in a few days.
Why in the world would the Kings trade Brown and if so to the Wings?

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02-23-2012, 10:51 PM
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Who would Detroit send the other way?
They have a pretty awesome prospect pool but I was mostly just pulling Detroit out of my ass - all I know is Brown is on the block. Philly actually seems like a much more plausible option since Deano and Homer are BFFs and since the Kings will likely face the Wings in the first round they wouldn't want to trade with them...although I have no idea what Philly would give up.

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02-23-2012, 10:53 PM
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Why in the world would the Kings trade Brown and if so to the Wings?
100% conjecture on the Red Wings part of that comment - but McKenzie claims Brown is on the block to clear cap space for a Bernier-for-Hemsky move. No idea why Dean wants to tinker with his team so much at the deadline. He's made a great move, best not to push his luck IMO.

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100% conjecture on the Red Wings part of that comment - but McKenzie claims Brown is on the block to clear cap space for a Bernier-for-Hemsky move. No idea why Dean wants to tinker with his team so much at the deadline. He's made a great move, best not to push his luck IMO.
Probably to save his ass. Dumb to trsde Bernier and Brown first Hemsky (a UFAs who wants $4-5) and futures.

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I want Brown, he can count to potato and hit.

Can you imagine a Clowe-Couture-Brown line. No one would mess with Logan.

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I hate Dustin Brown. Overrated diver with a potato face.

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I hate Dustin Brown. Overrated diver with a potato face.
You hate him until you love him.

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I hate Dustin Brown. Overrated diver with a potato face.
I don't like him much either - and thanks for the laugh.

If he gets traded I bet it'll be to a team in the Ease.

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I hate Dustin Brown. Overrated diver with a potato face.
For a guy who hits as much as he does, he never drops the gloves.

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Hell no!!!!

Whichever Sharks is recommending Avery, kick him off the team!!!

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Not to get OT, but is JJ even going to be a top 6D in Sochi?

Suter/EJ
Whitney/Orpik
Martin/Gleason
/w Fowler/Gogo developing?

I guess he would need to be on the team to run the PP now that Rafalski is old and broken.

For the record, I think LA got a good deal. They are deep enough in D and are desperate for Offense. If I was CBJ, I'd have asked for Voynov.
My top 6 did have Johnson. There's some speculation that we owe him one because he consistently shows up to the World Championships (when no one else will go). He scratched our back, we scratch his back...

Suter - Yandle
J. Johnson - Carlson
Orpik - E. Johnson
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02-23-2012, 11:17 PM
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DW...please don't get Rick Nash

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My top 6 did have Johnson. There's some speculation that we owe him one because he consistently shows up to the World Championships (when no one else will go). He scratched our back, we scratch his back...

Suter - Yandle
J. Johnson - Carlson
Orpik - E. Johnson
Fowler

Yandle/Fowler run the Power Play.

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Hot damn! Top 6 Defense for Team USA right there.

As for JMFJ, he never says no to the Red, White, and Blue.

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So apparently the BJ' initial asking price was Dubinsky, McDonagh, Kreider, 1st which is basically equivalent of Clowe, Braun, Nieto, 1st ...

Definitely too much but what if it was Clowe, Braun, Hamilton or something like that? I don't think Nash will move this year but if he does it'll be NYR - they definitely have more to offer.

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So apparently the BJ' initial asking price was Dubinsky, McDonagh, Kreider, 1st which is basically equivalent of Clowe, Braun, Nieto, 1st ...

Definitely too much but what if it was Clowe, Braun, Hamilton or something like that? I don't think Nash will move this year but if he does it'll be NYR - they definitely have more to offer.
Yikes. No thank you.

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So apparently the BJ' initial asking price was Dubinsky, McDonagh, Kreider, 1st which is basically equivalent of Clowe, Braun, Nieto, 1st ...

Definitely too much but what if it was Clowe, Braun, Hamilton or something like that? I don't think Nash will move this year but if he does it'll be NYR - they definitely have more to offer.
The big problem with trading for Nash right now is Murray's health. Moving a d-man right now might not be the best idea.

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02-23-2012, 11:25 PM
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I just really, really hope the Rangers get Nash because I have a horrible feeling DW is going to do something stupid like trade Pavelski for him.

Also just to stick the nail in the coffin of the Jack Johnson "debate" that I guess I was pretty much just having with myself, I totally forgot about this excellent post from BoC about Johnson's performance last season:

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EV GF EV GA EV +/- EV GF/GA Ratio
Doughty without JMFJ +61 -44 +17 0.581
Doughty with JMFJ +18 -19 -1 0.486


Mitchell without JMFJ +44 -39 +5 0.530
Mitchell with JMFJ +3 -9 -6 0.250


Scuderi without JMFJ +32 -27 +5 0.542
Scuderi with JMFJ +22 -29 -7 0.431


Greene without JMFJ +29 -28 +1 0.509
Greene with JMFJ +5 -9 -4 0.357


Martinez without JMFJ +33 -25 +8 0.569
Martinez with JMFJ +4 -2 +2 0.667


Drewiske without JMFJ +13 -15 -2 0.464
Drewiske with JMFJ +2 -2 0 0.500


Harrold without JMFJ +8 -4 +4 0.667
Harrold with JMFJ +1 -2 -1 0.333
Dude is terrible at hockey.

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The big problem with trading for Nash right now is Murray's health. Moving a d-man right now might not be the best idea.
I guess we'll find in a few days. A pessimist in me expects both Murray and Havlat done for the season ...

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My top 6 did have Johnson. There's some speculation that we owe him one because he consistently shows up to the World Championships (when no one else will go). He scratched our back, we scratch his back...

Suter - Yandle
J. Johnson - Carlson
Orpik - E. Johnson
Fowler

Yandle/Fowler run the Power Play.

Here's my whole team if anyone would like to see that:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1&postcount=79
Mine is:

C-Parise/Kane/Ryan -Kane is replaced with Pavs or Kes for DZone FO, changes on pos.
Brown/Statsny/Kessel
Kesler/A-Pavs/Backes -Defensive Zone FO/Shutdown Line
x/Stepan/Callahan

A-Suter/EJ -Shutdown/Top PK Pairing, both capable puck movers
Orpik/Yandle
Whitney/Martin
-Fowler, Carlson, Gogo (Don't see him too much, so...)

Quick/Miller/CS

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My top 6 did have Johnson. There's some speculation that we owe him one because he consistently shows up to the World Championships (when no one else will go). He scratched our back, we scratch his back...

Suter - Yandle
J. Johnson - Carlson
Orpik - E. Johnson
Fowler

Yandle/Fowler run the Power Play.

Here's my whole team if anyone would like to see that:
http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...1&postcount=79
I don't like that it works that way...but I've heard some of the same things.

There are some upcoming American d-men that have a pretty good shot of making that team. But this is probably for another thread.

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Hot damn! Top 6 Defense for Team USA right there.

As for JMFJ, he never says no to the Red, White, and Blue.
And he was the only member of the US hockey team to show up to the Olympic opening ceremonies. I always think it's weird when people question his character/attitude/etc, it's the exact opposite of the Johnson I've seen. Very patriotic, dedicated.

If he makes a fuss in Columbus, I'll be surprised.

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I envy the Central teams that will get to stomp all over a JMFJ-Wiz pair. I bet they set a new record for goals against.

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So apparently the BJ' initial asking price was Dubinsky, McDonagh, Kreider, 1st which is basically equivalent of Clowe, Braun, Nieto, 1st ...

Definitely too much but what if it was Clowe, Braun, Hamilton or something like that? I don't think Nash will move this year but if he does it'll be NYR - they definitely have more to offer.
NYR would be quite the scary and formidable team if Torts makes the Nash - Richards - Gaborik line. Lundqvist blocks you from scoring, and the GNR (hypothetical...call it Guns N Roses) line will start rockin'.

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02-23-2012, 11:32 PM
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I watch a lot of Oilers hockey because I hate myself and IMO Gilbert absolutely deserves a spot on the team, likely on the shutdown pair with Suter. He's played with nobodies, always against opposing top lines and is always flawless positionally and moves the puck north. Whitney on the other hand belongs nowhere near the team, in case his performance at Vancouver 2010 wasn't enough of an indicator of that.

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NYR would be quite the scary and formidable team if Torts makes the Nash - Richards - Gaborik line. Lundqvist blocks you from scoring, and the GNR (hypothetical...call it Guns N Roses) line will start rockin'.
If Crosby is healthy, they still don't get out of the East. Crosby is still the single biggest piece that can be acquired before the POs. Unless something drastic changes, I still really like Pitt in the East.

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