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02-24-2012, 12:17 AM
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Richards was spending time on the 4th line about a week ago. good times.
He's not even the leading assist man on the team...

On a side note, Callahan has over 200 hits

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He's not even the leading assist man on the team...

On a side note, Callahan has over 200 hits
Intangibles.

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Richards was not very good last season either. That contract is going to be a bigger albatross than Gomez's in a year or two if it isn't already.

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Sorry if this has been discussed, but how well do you think JVR would fit on the sharks second line with cooter and clowe? I know Wingels is looking pretty good in that role and I'd still love to see him in the line up, but just curious.

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Sorry if this has been discussed, but how well do you think JVR would fit on the sharks second line with cooter and clowe? I know Wingels is looking pretty good in that role and I'd still love to see him in the line up, but just curious.
That's two contenders swapping. Would have to take something major from the SJ blueline to do it.

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02-24-2012, 12:38 AM
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Sorry if this has been discussed, but how well do you think JVR would fit on the sharks second line with cooter and clowe? I know Wingels is looking pretty good in that role and I'd still love to see him in the line up, but just curious.
One word: Overpaid.

I'm not sure exactly how good a fit he'd be. Yes, he could be a talented power forward, but DW would have to be certain that he's going to live up to his potential. Right now, I think his draft status is more of a factor into his value than his play itself. Not to mention he's injured.

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02-24-2012, 12:41 AM
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One word: Overpaid.

I'm not sure exactly how good a fit he'd be. Yes, he could be a talented power forward, but DW would have to be certain that he's going to live up to his potential. Right now, I think his draft status is more of a factor into his value than his play itself. Not to mention he's injured.
What is with Holmgren and these crazy long contracts.

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What is with Holmgren and these crazy long contracts.
He's a genius if he finds a way to dump them on other teams. Watch Bryzgalov get traded next.

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I want Brown or Ott. Too bad neither will trade within the division.

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He's a genius if he finds a way to dump them on other teams. Watch Bryzgalov get traded next.
Exactly. Why stop? It hasn't hurt the Flyers yet (we'll see with Pronger). In fact, it's made their team better.

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Sorry if this has been discussed, but how well do you think JVR would fit on the sharks second line with cooter and clowe? I know Wingels is looking pretty good in that role and I'd still love to see him in the line up, but just curious.
If the Sharks had JVR, I'd put him on the 3rd line and Havlat on the 2nd. His cap# is super high though. To think the Sharks have the better player in Couture for ~1.5 million less.

I'm not too sold on Wingels yet either. Hopefully I'm wrong and he sticks with the club, but he still seems a bit too undersized for the post-season. He was great against Tampa and Carolina (and I heard he was good today), but he was just being dismantled by Detroit. Maybe it was just a bad game?

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If the Sharks had JVR, I'd put him on the 3rd line and Havlat on the 2nd. His cap# is super high though. To think the Sharks have the better player in Couture for ~1.5 million less.

I'm not too sold on Wingels yet either. Hopefully I'm wrong and he sticks with the club, but he's still seems a bit too undersized for the post-season. He was great against Tampa and Carolina (and I heard he was good today), but he was just being dismantled by Detroit. Maybe it was just a bad game?
I'm actually liking Wingels a lot. I see him branching out and gunning for some offense. That's what a lot of the Worcester guys have been afraid of doing. Yet it's exactly what kept guys like Demers and Braun with the team.

Now that I mention it, it's kinda weird that the forward call ups seem to have to learn offense, while the D call ups learn defense. hmmm...

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I'm actually liking Wingels a lot. I see him branching out and gunning for some offense. That's what a lot of the Worcester guys have been afraid of doing. Yet it's exactly what kept guys like Demers and Braun with the team.

Now that I mention it, it's kinda weird that the forward call ups seem to have to learn offense, while the D call ups learn defense. hmmm...
Yeah, I agree. Among the youngsters, I'd rate them this way:

McGinn
Desjardins
Wingels



------- Mendoza line
Ferriero
McCarthy


I'm hoping McGinn signs a 2-year deal around $1-1.25m. That gives him some confidence that that org believes in him but not too much to go to his head. Still needs to prove himself and it takes him up to 2014 when the Big 3 are up.

Desjardin and Wingels should get 1-way deals for $600K.

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If the Sharks had JVR, I'd put him on the 3rd line and Havlat on the 2nd. His cap# is super high though. To think the Sharks have the better player in Couture for ~1.5 million less.

I'm not too sold on Wingels yet either. Hopefully I'm wrong and he sticks with the club, but he still seems a bit too undersized for the post-season. He was great against Tampa and Carolina (and I heard he was good today), but he was just being dismantled by Detroit. Maybe it was just a bad game?
Detroit and CBJ were bad games for TW. He was good today, even outside of the assist. OTOH, Clowe didn't look so good on that line.

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Detroit and CBJ were bad games for TW. He was good today, even outside of the assist. OTOH, Clowe didn't look so good on that line.
So would you say it's just the occasional bad games for him or is it that he just can't handle going against top teams yet? If it's the latter, that can't bode too well going into the post-season (if they even use him).
Disregarding the CBJ game since not many players were good that night.

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So would you say it's just the occasional bad games for him or is it that he just can't handle going against top teams yet? If it's the latter, that can't bode too well going into the post-season (if they even use him).
Disregarding the CBJ game since not many players were good that night.
Once Havlat and Moore are back, I doubt Wingels see much action in the postseason. Maybe a game or two. I'd be pleasantly surprised if he saw more - we'd have ourselves another tweener.

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So would you say it's just the occasional bad games for him or is it that he just can't handle going against top teams yet? If it's the latter, that can't bode too well going into the post-season (if they even use him).
Disregarding the CBJ game since not many players were good that night.
Detroit offers different challenges than most other teams. It's hard to say. It would be easier for me to see if they use him right up to Havlat's return.

He could be a tweener if he learns more about taking his shots. At least he is consistently getting shots which is a good sign. A lot of callups don't figure how to get open consistently (watch the shot count even on 4th liners). He does help with the cycle for zone time so that he does get opportunities.

I don't think he is really ready for post-season, but he does look like he will meet the potential to be better than Ferriero and Mitchell. Better IQ.

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I'm curious, next time LW is around, what his opinion on Mike Richards is (and anyone else that would like to chip in). I used to think that Richards was in a different league than Pavelski, but now I'm not so sure...

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I'm curious, next time LW is around, what his opinion on Mike Richards is (and anyone else that would like to chip in). I used to think that Richards was in a different league than Pavelski, but now I'm not so sure...
Richards and Pavelski were never that far apart. There was a lot of over-hyping of Richards in his Philly days. Pavelski does a lot of the things that Richards does, but he's probably less flashy and probably a less talented scorer. Just my opinion.

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I want Brown or Ott. Too bad neither will trade within the division.
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jeez were tearing through these trade rumor threads

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Tar and feather this man!

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If the Sharks had JVR, I'd put him on the 3rd line and Havlat on the 2nd. His cap# is super high though. To think the Sharks have the better player in Couture for ~1.5 million less.

I'm not too sold on Wingels yet either. Hopefully I'm wrong and he sticks with the club, but he still seems a bit too undersized for the post-season. He was great against Tampa and Carolina (and I heard he was good today), but he was just being dismantled by Detroit. Maybe it was just a bad game?
This was basically my train of thought too, although I like that he's a skilled, big bodied dude which would be great on a line with cooter and clowe. Could really help open up the ice and add some scoring flare.

I was hoping that maybe DW would be able to get him a little discounted since he's injured.

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