Ott had a 46 point season in 64 games. He's pretty good offensively and, while being a noted hothead, he is more disciplined with his hitting than Torres.
That's one season. As we've seen with Raymond, it could very well be the outlier. Ott is a 3rd liner making 3m dollars. With reduced minutes, he'll get you 30-35 points with a lot of versatility. But is 30-35 points worth 3m dollars?
His contract here, not this year but beyond, has a good chance of looking like a Joel Ward or Colby Armstrong type contract. You know they're good players, but you constantly question their contribution due to an inflated cap number.
I mean, people are already clamoring to have Raymond reduce his contract from the 2.55m he makes. And he is _better_ than Ott offensively.
Given the other great contracts on this team, yeah, you can bury a 3m dollar player playing on the 3rd line. But his guy is no Dan Cleary, where he'll get 40+ points from there. Definitely a risk attached here even before you give up assets...
Ott had a 46 point season in 64 games. He's pretty good offensively and, while being a noted hothead, he is more disciplined with his hitting than Torres.
But he does take a lot of penalties, 7 more minors then our most at 31
I mean, people are already clamoring to have Raymond reduce his contract from the 2.55m he makes. And he is _better_ than Ott offensively.
If Ott and Raymond were both made available, who do you think would garner more interest?
Raymond is likely a better bet to outproduce Ott over the next few years but there's something to be said for what Ott can do. Especially being a top 5-10 faceoff man in the NHL - which will help a huge weakness we have right now in Hodgson. Hodgson is infinitely better attacking than defending at this point in his career and increasing the faceoff % on the 3rd line by around 15% is a huge help in putting the rookie in the best possible position to succeed.
Right now, Cody looks like a potential weakness that could be exploited come playoff time. Getting him a strong faceoff winger and defensive presence like Ott would go a long way. If it takes a bit of an overpayment through teade and salary, you have to consider it.
Not to mention, I get a kick out of watching Iginla lose his composure. Boom!
With the emergence of Tanev, I have a feeling Andrew Alberts may be moved by the deadline. Dallas is now in 8th place in the West and have a rather large hole on the blue line with the departed Nicklas Grossman... Alberts has a similar skill set to Grossman and may be an added incentive for Dallas to make a deal happen for Ott.
With the emergence of Tanev, I have a feeling Andrew Alberts may be moved by the deadline. Dallas is now in 8th place in the West and have a rather large hole on the blue line with the departed Nicklas Grossman... Alberts has a similar skill set to Grossman and may be an added incentive for Dallas to make a deal happen for Ott.
Raymond + Alberts for Ott a trade possibility?
You'd have to think at least a pick would also have to be going Dallas' way, and then we'd have to pick up one or two more d-men as well.
Since Dallas is listening to offers for basically anyone over 27, you'd think they're looking for someone younger than Raymond. He'll be 27 to start next season -- not exactly in Benn's age group.
I know it's from eklund. Forget the rumor, what do you guys think about brassard? He's a centre, but could look good on the 2nd line with booth and kesler. Adds some size, and he's just about to enter his prime. He could really flourish playing with better players.
I don't think he'd be a fit. Young guy with not a very big frame - doesn't strike me as a physical or intense guy at all.
Wrong. Raymond has played a LOT of that time with Ryan Kesler, too.
Ummm, Ott plays 3min~ more than Raymond ATOI... He also plays all over the place - as Canucker has mentioned. You can bet that with a 3-4min drop in ice, lesser linemates on average, that that .02PPG gap will swing the other way.
Oh, and let's not forget that Kesler and Raymond have zero chemistry. Yet, you can't swap Raymond among the 1st and 2nd line like we have seen with Ott in DAL. Ribeiro is a better passer, and Benn is on par if not a better passer than Kesler is also.
So I believe you might be wrong. A straight career PPG comparison without context is meaningless. Otherwise, people would be saying Mike Richards is clearly better than Kesler offensively when we know that is not accurate.
Edit: Oh and stats aside, Raymond _looks_ better offensively, even though his conversion rate is porous and his chemistry with Kesler is non-existent.
Wrong. Raymond has played a LOT of that time with Ryan Kesler, too.
Ott is three years older than Raymond.
So you are comparing Raymond's period, from age 22-26, to Ott's, from age 25-29. This is not a fair comparison for obvious reasons. One would expect Raymond's next 3-4 years to be more productive than his last 4 years. However, given the seriousness of his spinal injury, this expectation may not be realized.
isn't jason garrison shooting at like 20% and will never ever ever score this many goals in his career again
Never sign a guy with only one good season in his career. He's overachieving majorly and will absolutely go to the highest bidder in UFA knowing this could be his only shot at making money.
Never sign a guy with only one good season in his career. He's overachieving majorly and will absolutely go to the highest bidder in UFA knowing this could be his only shot at making money.
especially a dude who was
A: completely unknown except to his friends in north van
B: barely in the nhl two years ago
Never sign a guy with only one good season in his career. He's overachieving majorly and will absolutely go to the highest bidder in UFA knowing this could be his only shot at making money.
If the Canucks somehow landed him in a trade and go far in the playoffs (dare I say win the Cup?), perhaps Garrison would give the Canucks the "hometown discount" when signing his next contract. It would literally be a "hometown discount." LOL
If the Canucks somehow landed him in a trade and go far in the playoffs (dare I say win the Cup?), perhaps Garrison would give the Canucks the "hometown discount" when signing his next contract. It would literally be a "hometown discount." LOL
Garrison has to make bank on this next contract, took him too long to crack the NHL and now he's put up some great offensive numbers. A team will take a flyer on him and give him $3M a year for a few years and he HAS to take the highest offer - it would be in his best interests.
