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02-25-2012, 04:02 PM
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Clitsome would be in the Oilers top-4? Yeah, that's it. Ugh
Yeah he actually would be a better option defensively than someone like Potter and until we know Whitney is healthy longer term, Clitsome is a decent option to add to the mix.

I'm not one to go claiming every player that comes down the wire but I think Clitsome makes some sense. My last big waiver wire push was for Grabner so it's not as if I want every player added that comes along.

No big deal if they don't take him but he's definitely not a bad pickup.

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02-25-2012, 04:04 PM
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Yeah he actually would be a better option defensively than someone like Potter and until we know Whitney is healthy longer term, Clitsome is a decent option to add to the mix.

I'm not one to go claiming every player that comes down the wire but I think Clitsome makes some sense. My last big waiver wire push was for Grabner so it's not as if I want every player added that comes along.

No big deal if they don't take him but he's definitely not a bad pickup.
Because Potter is in the Oilers' top-4?

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of claiming him and dumping Barker, but don't get ridiculous.

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02-25-2012, 04:30 PM
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What would it take to get Schenn out of Toronto, and would they be willing to part with him?

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Because Potter is in the Oilers' top-4?

Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of claiming him and dumping Barker, but don't get ridiculous.
Well you tell me which Dmen on the Oilers currently have a better mix of defense/offense in their game that Clitsome?

Gilbert and "maybe" Petry. That's it. Whitney would likely be there as well but he's still an unknown at this point and one of the reasons I'd pick up Clitsome is to give the team some flexibility if Whitney falls apart again.

Smid is a stay at home guy. Sutton is the beefy bottom pairing fellow and plays that role well. Peckham is well... Peckham... 7th dman at best. Potter is a horror show defensively. Barker is... well I think everyone agrees he's an experiment that is likely to end in 20 games (many of which he likely won't be playing in).

Clitsome would be in the Oilers top 4 especially with Whitney not back at 100%. Clitsome also has some potential to develop into something more as well, he's 26... not 35.


Peckham could be dealt or Barker could be waived to make the space.

Again, not a life or death move to acquire him but it's definitely a low risk and low cost pickup... compared to Barker for example he's literally 3 times the dman for half the price.

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What would it take to get Schenn out of Toronto, and would they be willing to part with him?
I imagine one of the big three.

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02-25-2012, 04:34 PM
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Well you tell me which Dmen on the Oilers currently have a better mix of defense/offense in their game that Clitsome?
So this is your arbitrary definition of a "top-4" defenseman, and you don't believe in the players that are currently playing that role.

Fair enough, you'll have to forgive me if I take what you say with a grain of salt.

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I just thought of a comparable... I would probably put Clitsome close to Franson as a comparable type player.

I think Franson is probably a little better offensively and Clitsome a little better defensively.... but close enough.

Who wouldn't want Franson for free on the Oilers if that option were available? I know I'd take that if it popped up on the waiver wire.

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02-25-2012, 04:40 PM
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So this is your arbitrary definition of a "top-4" defenseman, and you don't believe in the players that are currently playing that role.

Fair enough, you'll have to forgive me if I take what you say with a grain of salt.
Well defense and offense are two pretty big parts of the game of hockey... along with physicality and other intangibles.

Take whatever you want with a grain of salt. We all have opinions and I certainly don't agree with everything you or others say.

In the end it's all moot because we have no control over what the Oilers choose to do but I maintain he'd be a decent option to add to the Oilers dcore until the dmen like Marincin/Klefbom/Musil work their way into the lineup.

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02-25-2012, 04:46 PM
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Well defense and offense are two pretty big parts of the game of hockey... along with physicality and other intangibles.

Take whatever you want with a grain of salt. We all have opinions and I certainly don't agree with everything you or others say.

In the end it's all moot because we have no control over what the Oilers choose to do but I maintain he'd be a decent option to add to the Oilers dcore until the dmen like Marincin/Klefbom/Musil work their way into the lineup.
It's just, you know, but your arbitrary definition, Laddy Smid isn't a top-4 defenseman, which he CLEARLY is. Brad Stuart isn't either. Robin Regher isn't, etc, etc.

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Why would the Oilers pick up clitsome

Oilers have 4 players who are 5-6 pairing already

Whitney--Gilbert--Smid--Petry are top 4

bottom 2 are

Barker--Sutton--Potter--Pekham--

Don't see Clitesome being an improvement there and he does not have the upside for a top 4 guy

Oiler have in the system guys like Teubert and Plante on the farm who will be seeing taxi duty next year and guys like Fydon. Musil and Martin Marincin who will gets long looks at some point in time

Unless the oilers can hit a home run with a PMD who can play 20+ a night--don't see the oilers picking up another bottom 6 guy

With the signing of Potter and Sutton--both Barker and Peckham could be moved the ability to look at their prospects more Teubert needs one more 1/2 season on the farm and I think he will be ready

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02-25-2012, 04:57 PM
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It's just, you know, but your arbitrary definition, Laddy Smid isn't a top-4 defenseman, which he CLEARLY is. Brad Stuart isn't either. Robin Regher isn't, etc, etc.
I actually didn't say Smid wasn't top 4... he's a stay at home dman though.

Whitney isn't a sure thing which is the main point.

Gilbert-Petry(who is still developing)-Smid-Whitney(still recovering... no guarantees)

I don't see a problem with Clitsome fitting into that mix.

I'm probably not as high on Whitney being counted on as fully dependable as others and Petry is still a work in progress. Clitsome in the mix allows the team to push out one of Peckham/Barker/Potter.

You know... improvement? Something the Oilers need on their blueline, something almost 100% of folks would likely agree with.

I just think it's a cheap and relatively risk free way of trying to improve that group.

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Anyone tired of the Canadian media acting like the Leafs have a great shot at Rick Nash? I doubt he has them even on his list, Brad May was going on about how Nash wants to play for a team in Canada that can win the Stanley Cup, and that the Leafs would be a perfect fit for him. Ugh.

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02-25-2012, 05:31 PM
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Anyone tired of the Canadian media acting like the Leafs have a great shot at Rick Nash? I doubt he has them even on his list, Brad May was going on about how Nash wants to play for a team in Canada that can win the Stanley Cup, and that the Leafs would be a perfect fit for him. Ugh.
Oh I am, but if you don't pander to them, they don't watch, and that's alot of kool-aid filled eyeballs.

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02-25-2012, 05:33 PM
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Anyone tired of the Canadian media acting like the Leafs have a great shot at Rick Nash? I doubt he has them even on his list, Brad May was going on about how Nash wants to play for a team in Canada that can win the Stanley Cup, and that the Leafs would be a perfect fit for him. Ugh.
I don't doubt the leafs are on his list.

I doubt Burke will give up whats needed to land him though.

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02-25-2012, 05:38 PM
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Cue the goaltending proposals

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Cue the goaltending proposals
O'mark for Lindback.

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O'mark for Lindback.
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Anyone tired of the Canadian media acting like the Leafs have a great shot at Rick Nash? I doubt he has them even on his list, Brad May was going on about how Nash wants to play for a team in Canada that can win the Stanley Cup, and that the Leafs would be a perfect fit for him. Ugh.
The Leafs are in on every big name player in the NHL. Don't you know that?

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Anyone tired of the Canadian media acting like the Leafs have a great shot at Rick Nash? I doubt he has them even on his list, Brad May was going on about how Nash wants to play for a team in Canada that can win the Stanley Cup, and that the Leafs would be a perfect fit for him. Ugh.
Whatever. If the Leafs get Nash, their drought will extend further IMO.

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I imagine one of the big three.
A stud for a bottom pairing d-man that is struggling?

Where do I sign?

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Anyone tired of the Canadian media acting like the Leafs have a great shot at Rick Nash? I doubt he has them even on his list, Brad May was going on about how Nash wants to play for a team in Canada that can win the Stanley Cup, and that the Leafs would be a perfect fit for him. Ugh.
Happens every year. TSN/SportsNet have the Leafs in on every big name to drive up ratings...and their fans buy it since "they're the center of the hockey universe and everyone wants to be a Leaf." Just gotta live with it. They never land the big fish either, which actually makes it kind of funny.

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Wishful thinking proposal:

Khabi + Barker for Emery + Frolik + Olsen

Reasoning:
- Chicago is 4th in their div, 4pts behind NSH.
- They need a more solid goaltending
- Barker (while terrible) is another option aside from O'Donnell/Lepisto.
- Frolik is to offset the salary coming back.
- CHI is familiar with the assets returning.

Then flip Frolik/Emery

Obviously, wishful thinking... Olsen is going to be good.

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I imagine one of the big three.
bahahahaha...... bahahahahah..... HAHAHAHAHAHAH

oh, you were serious?

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bahahahaha...... bahahahahah..... HAHAHAHAHAHAH

oh, you were serious?
He created avatar for one reason Troll the boards that schtick is so old on hf

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