That was a gassed 37 year old Salo who's been injured 20+ times in his career. He's not a quick man anymore.
I'm not trying to say that it wasn't a close icing call, but I don't think you can say Salo was hustling when he has both hands on his stick and is taking wide strides like that. Even John Garrett suggested Salo was milking it in that Youtube video.
But still a dumb and unnecessary play by Bertuzzi to throw it down the ice like that, which is pretty much par for the course for him. Whether it's putting the Wings offside, trying to bat a puck out of the air when it's over his head, or taking needless offensive zone penalties; Bertuzzi is truly Detroit's stupidest forward.
I'm not surprised only because I expect that privileged attitude from Wings announcers and fans. This was not that bad of a call if you even thought it was a bad call at all, no matter who is looking at it. Icing is often a judgment call and home announcers of teams that do not routinely get the benefit of the doubt from officials would not find this call surprising or terribly objectionable. Many if not most would be complimentary of the team that got that call.
I'm not trying to say that it wasn't a close icing call, but I don't think you can say Salo was hustling when he has both hands on his stick and is taking wide strides like that. Even John Garrett suggested Salo was milking it in that Youtube video.
But still a dumb and unnecessary play by Bertuzzi to throw it down the ice like that, which is pretty much par for the course for him. Whether it's putting the Wings offside, trying to bat a puck out of the air when it's over his head, or taking needless offensive zone penalties; Bertuzzi is truly Detroit's stupidest forward.
Agree. What I don't get is why Bertuzzi was out there in that situation. From what I remember when he was on the Canucks, and from what you are saying here, he is one of the last guys I'd want out there at the end of a game in a defensively responsible position requiring forethought and careful play.
Agree. What I don't get is why Bertuzzi was out there in that situation. From what I remember when he was on the Canucks, and from what you are saying here, he is one of the last guys I'd want out there at the end of a game in a defensively responsible position requiring forethought and careful play.
I think you guys were trying to pressure us in our zone until the end. That's what it looked like, at least.
Agree. What I don't get is why Bertuzzi was out there in that situation. From what I remember when he was on the Canucks, and from what you are saying here, he is one of the last guys I'd want out there at the end of a game in a defensively responsible position requiring forethought and careful play.
Bertuzzi has been very good defensively for the Wings. He has changed his game tremendously from his days in Vancouver.
Bertuzzi has been very good defensively for the Wings. He has changed his game tremendously from his days in Vancouver.
Agreed. He's adapted well. It's hard for me not to like the big doofus.
Some of my favourite memories as a Canucks fan are of Bertuzzi in his prime - going top speed and wide and slipping a backhand past the goaltender. His battles with Chelios were pretty epic too.
I'm not trying to say that it wasn't a close icing call, but I don't think you can say Salo was hustling when he has both hands on his stick and is taking wide strides like that. Even John Garrett suggested Salo was milking it in that Youtube video.
But still a dumb and unnecessary play by Bertuzzi to throw it down the ice like that, which is pretty much par for the course for him. Whether it's putting the Wings offside, trying to bat a puck out of the air when it's over his head, or taking needless offensive zone penalties; Bertuzzi is truly Detroit's stupidest forward.
Please provide a video clip of Salo moving faster than he did on that icing. You seem convinced he has an extra gear or two.
Agree. What I don't get is why Bertuzzi was out there in that situation. From what I remember when he was on the Canucks, and from what you are saying here, he is one of the last guys I'd want out there at the end of a game in a defensively responsible position requiring forethought and careful play.
That all started with a faceoff in the Canuck's zone to the left of Luongo with over a minute left to go. Nucks had just iced the puck, isn't that why AV took his timeout. Bert was doing a very good job right off that offensive zone faceoff by keeping the puck pinned up along the boards with his skates before the Nucks poked it loose 7 seconds later. Babcock took the timeout after the Bertuzzi icing call.
So many prior posts of why did it have to be the Nucks who ended the streak? Ask the roughly 20 other NHL teams how lost to the Wings during that 23 game streak why they couldn't get the job done. Leave it up to the team with the 2nd most points in the NHL at the time to get it done.
The amount of immaturity and team bashing going on in such a simple thread is ridiculous. Why can't fans just respect each others teams?
I had no problem with the icing call. Other vets like Lidstrom get the same benefit of the doubt from the linesmen all the time. Wings had their chances to win the game. Nucks outplayed us through most of the game. The better team won.
The streak is still no less impressive. It's a lot harder to have a streak like that these days with the parity than it was back in the day. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. Props to the Wings. Props to the Nucks. End of story.
The amount of immaturity and team bashing going on in such a simple thread is ridiculous. Why can't fans just respect each others teams?
I had no problem with the icing call. Other vets like Lidstrom get the same benefit of the doubt from the linesmen all the time. Wings had their chances to win the game. Nucks outplayed us through most of the game. The better team won.
The streak is still no less impressive. It's a lot harder to have a streak like that these days with the parity than it was back in the day. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. Props to the Wings. Props to the Nucks. End of story.
I don't think you can say Salo was hustling when he has both hands on his stick and is taking wide strides like that. Even John Garrett suggested Salo was milking it in that Youtube video.
Salo was hustling just not in the way most people think when talking about hockey, also John Garrett is an idiot.
That being said, I'm shocked this thread is still going, its over, all of it.
Why must people dwell on it?
We meet in the play offs and settle it or we don't. Once the post season comes, I won't care either way.
I'm not trying to say that it wasn't a close icing call, but I don't think you can say Salo was hustling when he has both hands on his stick and is taking wide strides like that. Even John Garrett suggested Salo was milking it in that Youtube video.
But still a dumb and unnecessary play by Bertuzzi to throw it down the ice like that, which is pretty much par for the course for him. Whether it's putting the Wings offside, trying to bat a puck out of the air when it's over his head, or taking needless offensive zone penalties; Bertuzzi is truly Detroit's stupidest forward.
Lidstrom pulled the same move earlier in the period which infuriated me as well. It happens every game by at least one player –*I understand you guys could be upset over it, but it wasn't the game breaker. Win your faceoff, block your shots, and you leave with a victory. The icing wasn't just the reason the goal was scored.
Lidstrom pulled the same move earlier in the period which infuriated me as well. It happens every game by at least one player –*I understand you guys could be upset over it, but it wasn't the game breaker. Win your faceoff, block your shots, and you leave with a victory. The icing wasn't just the reason the goal was scored.
Exactly, that's a good play by a veteran defenseman. Any wings fan in here who thinks that Lidstrom or any of the other veteran's the wings have on our team don't do that need to have their eyes checked.
The amount of immaturity and team bashing going on in such a simple thread is ridiculous. Why can't fans just respect each others teams?
I had no problem with the icing call. Other vets like Lidstrom get the same benefit of the doubt from the linesmen all the time. Wings had their chances to win the game. Nucks outplayed us through most of the game. The better team won.
The streak is still no less impressive. It's a lot harder to have a streak like that these days with the parity than it was back in the day. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. Props to the Wings. Props to the Nucks. End of story.
I think there's been a lot of posters showing respect to the other team here. Yeah, there are a few idiots, but also a lot of people giving props as you have. These posts just don't tend to get responded to as much, or noticed, because they are not inflammatory. I respect the crap out of the Red Wings, even more so after that game. Here's hoping for an incredible WC final between our two teams.
Bertuzzi is middle of the road now. He went from crap to a responsible 2-way player. All Wings players are. The only player who is a seive (in the top 6) is Franzen.
Bertuzzi is middle of the road now. He went from crap to a responsible 2-way player. All Wings players are. The only player who is a seive (in the top 6) is Franzen.
Franzen might not go for long skates around the defensive end. But defense also involves awareness. Bert isn't the best guy on the team at following his point shot.
Bert was a minus player until he found himself on Datsyuk's line and the line went a month without having a minus game.
The Red Wings have very solid, hard-working centers...
Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Flip, Helm (overrated defensively a bit, though).
Guys like Miller, Cleary, Eaves and Abedlakder (somewhat) are great guys to have out there in the final minute.
Guys you don't want out there with a one goal lead? Bertuzzi. Hudler. Holmstrom, and the youngsters, Emmerton and Mursak (until they get their skates under them).
Franzen really should be a decent defensive forward. Don't ask me why he's so disengaged.
Franzen might not go for long skates around the defensive end. But defense also involves awareness. Bert isn't the best guy on the team at following his point shot.
Bert was a minus player until he found himself on Datsyuk's line and the line went a month without having a minus game.
The Red Wings have very solid, hard-working centers...
Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Flip, Helm (overrated defensively a bit, though).
Guys like Miller, Cleary, Eaves and Abedlakder (somewhat) are great guys to have out there in the final minute.
Guys you don't want out there with a one goal lead? Bertuzzi. Hudler. Holmstrom, and the youngsters, Emmerton and Mursak (until they get their skates under them).
Franzen really should be a decent defensive forward. Don't ask me why he's so disengaged.
I agree, but atleast he backchecks now. He's much better than he was last year.
As for Franzen... I have know clue what's up with him. Right now he just plain sucks right now. I'm just hoping he's bottling up all the magic for the playoffs.
i thought it was a great game by both sides, just my 2 cents.
with regards to the icing call, I can see how some would see Salo as embellishing it. However, salo is like the bionic man at this point and isnt all that fast.
You seem convinced he has an extra gear or two.
