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02-25-2012, 07:23 PM
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to answer the dude who asked if gainey selected Gauthier:


from what i understand from an actual great source is that gainey backed julien (who left for a similar position..strange no?) - while boivin wanted gauthier. in the end boivin was canned - or left in 'grace' after backing peladeau bid instead of molson ... this is FACT
which part is "fact"? all of it, or just the last part about Boivin leaving after backing Peladeau?

and what is your source?


the Gainey/Julien, Boivin/Gauthier part is very very interesting, if it is indeed fact...

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Why is Gainey still working for the organization.

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No tears for Gauthier. In terms of recent moves, I like the Gill deal but I have to say I'm not real impressed with four more years of Rene Borque and two more of Kabs. Everything else is futures. I wonder that trade was Molson's first time meddling or Gauthier's last move without him meddling (very likely neither,but maybe).

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Also firing a GM 2 days before the trade deadline would typify the season the Canadiens have been having.
He hasn't fired Gauthier before the deadline. I would imagine Gauthier has been on a leash for a while and now Molson and others are calling the shots until a new GM is hired.

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of course that joke of a summer brought us to the conference finals.
thank Jaro and a very hot cammalleri (who then disappeared for 2+ years)

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Gainey and Carriere need to gtfo. Timmins will be fine.

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Is Marinaro credible ? Has he ever been right or wrong on his scoops about the habs ?

I don't know him very much...

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of course that joke of a summer brought us to the conference finals.



say it with me now...

FLUKE

also known as winning 8 PO games with the opposition outshooting/outchancing you by a vast margin, and your goalie somehow making 35+ saves in every win, combined with a streaky goalscorer shooting an insane, and unsustainable, 22%.


is it really so hard to understand?

or perhaps you believe that Gainey built the team to win that way

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Is Marinaro credible ? Has he ever been right or wrong on his scoops about the habs ?

I don't know him very much...

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He is the most credible source we the people have.

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which part is "fact"? all of it, or just the last part about Boivin leaving after backing Peladeau?

and what is your source?


the Gainey/Julien, Boivin/Gauthier part is very very interesting, if it is indeed fact...
my source is someone who is friends with Bovin and works in montreal media. like every other rumor (because it's unproven and i'm anonymous here) you can accept or not....but it's common knowledge that boivin backed peladeau bid and was then out within a year (as soon as molson bid was approved) while brisebois left for essentially the same job in TB. strange?

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in the end boivin was canned - or left in 'grace' after backing peladeau bid instead of molson ... this is FACT

where did you get that from? do you have an article?

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#FireGauthier
and Gainey too

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my source is someone who is friends with Bovin and works in montreal media. like every other rumor (because it's unproven and i'm anonymous here) you can accept or not....but it's common knowledge that boivin backed peladeau bid and was then out within a year (as soon as molson bid was approved) while brisebois left for essentially the same job in TB. strange?
You're wrong. Boivin was backing another group, it's true. But not quebecor.

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I couldn't watch, but I'm flabbergasted that Molson is involved in this circus. I thought he was just head of tweeting.

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He is the most credible source we the people have.
not sure if you're being sarcastic or not - but aside from his pompous attitude - which inevitably alienates people and as you can read here and creates backlash...the guy is right lot - and the fact that CTV went with this live, proves the sources are probably reliable

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Gainey and Carriere need to gtfo. Timmins will be fine.
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Story is now up on RDS. Interesting part of the article, saying Molson met with Serge Savard. Ummmm, could we possibly see the return of Savard as GM?

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/335936.html

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of course that joke of a summer brought us to the conference finals.
Did we win the stanley cup? No. And Halak played like the messiah himself. We won games and series we shouldn't have won and it became our "identity". Our GM thought we could keep doing the same thing year in year out and here we are. Our results gradually got worse after that year, so yes, that summer was a joke.

Halak's performance was pretty much a curse in disguise.

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You're wrong. Boivin was backing another group, it's true. But not quebecor.
from what i understand he was backing quebecor, and it was common knowledge for anybody who moved in those circles at the time. if it's wrong post the group

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Gainey and Carriere need to gtfo. Timmins will be fine.
Timmins better be fine with whomever is brought in next season. Aside from him, I think it's time we go a new direction and cut ties with all previous management I agree.

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Is Marinaro credible ? Has he ever been right or wrong on his scoops about the habs ?

I don't know him very much...

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People can slam Marinaro all they want, buy he's not bad, he has good contacts, what he said tonite does make sense, when the Gill deal was announced, the first thing that came to my mind, this was NOT a Gauthier deal, check Gauthier's history, he does not make these type of deals, the Gill deal is a good deal for the habs, not sure who is advising the Molson family, Timmins is probably still in the loop, he's a pretty smart guy, I'm curious to know what hockey people are advising them.

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Story is now up on RDS. Interesting part of the article, saying Molson met with Serge Savard. Ummmm, could we possibly see the return of Savard as GM?

http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/335936.html
no. molson went to him for advice

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of course that joke of a summer brought us to the conference finals.
This. NOW it backfires, but we still got there...

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So... Marinaro says that Molson has been effectively the GM since December?

That wouldn't mean he took control in response in the mess. That would mean he caused the mess himself.

It would mean the Habs have an owner who basically takes matters directly in his own hands and whose demonstrated level of clue in NHL operations consists of making the moves that cut short the team's climb in the standings and precipitated them down to last place in the conference.

Basically, Geoff Molson is Charles Wang... and there are people who think this is good news?

It'd basically mean that the Habs have become the Islanders. If Marinaro is right, the Habs are FUBAR for the next decade-plus.

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So... Marinaro says that Molson has been effectively the GM since December?

So basically that means the Habs have an owner who basically takes matters directly in his own hands and whose demonstrated level of clue in NHL operations consists of making the moves that cut short the team's climb in the standings and precipitated them down to last place in the conference.

Basically, Geoff Molson is Charles Wang... and there are people who think this is good news?

It'd basically mean that the Habs have become the Islanders. If Marinaro is right, the Habs are FUBAR for the next decade-plus.
It doesn't make sense. The Isles are a black hole of money, Wang gets away with as much as he does because without him, they'd be the Quebec Nordiques by now. The Canadiens are one of the most profitable franchises in hockey. Molson is all about making money, why would he shoot himself in the foot just to have something to play with?

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