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02-25-2012, 07:47 PM
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Whitesnake, I'd be very surprised if Gainey has as much input as he once had, there's no sense firing the managment team at this point in the season, ride this disaster out till April, get rid of the last half of the Ottawa intelligensia (Gauthier), make Gainey a goodwill ambassader, bring in Pat Brisson, and the retool begins
Well I'm going with the news than Gainey-Carrière and Timmins are helping Molson. Don't fire anybody right now, I don't care. But DON'T use Gainey as a help either. Like I said in another post, just ask Timmins at this point. Actually, that's the whole point. We need to restack some draft picks. That's Timmins' job. So he's the only one you should ask from some pointers. And actually, Timmins would be part of the package for the next GM. Yep, I understand the GM usually get his own people, but Timmins stays. If you don't want Timmins, you don't have the job.

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So... Marinaro says that Molson has been effectively the GM since December?
I don't know where you got the Dec part. I watched the report and they never mentioned Dec.

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PG was being quite successful until December this year. In which time, I am now told, he may not have been in control.

Which would mean that the failure isn't PG, it's whoever was in control at that time... apparently, that someone is Molson and his commitee.
you are assuming that Marinaro is correct about his dates about all this. Which is a very BIG assumption.

also PG has been a failure since day 1, he was never the right guy for the job.

Also, RDS is saying that PG is still the GM, but Molson has to approve everything. There are probably 20 GMs in the league that need to clear stuff by the owner.

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also PG has been a failure since day 1, he was never the right guy for the job.
You're out to lunch. The guy has generally made very good moves and, most importantly, showed restraint where needed.

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Molson will make an anouncement that PG job is safe and then firing him two weeks later.

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Geoff Molson ‏ @GMolsonCHC
Les rumeurs du congédiement de Pierre Gauthier sont fausses. Rumours of Pierre Gauthier's firing are false.

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Molson will make an anouncement that PG job is safe and then firing him two weeks later.
Might not be sarcasm

“@GMolsonCHC: Les rumeurs du congédiement de Pierre Gauthier sont fausses. Rumours of Pierre Gauthier's firing are false.”

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obviously Molson would say that

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Geoff Molson ‏ @GMolsonCHC
Les rumeurs du congédiement de Pierre Gauthier sont fausses. Rumours of Pierre Gauthier's firing are false.
Not sure what's the point of that tweet. Marinaro actually never said that he was fired. Just said that he was on a tighter leash.

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If I had to guess when the 'group' took over, it was after the coach firing backfired. It'd make no sense if it was before that.

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Geoff Molson ‏ @GMolsonCHC
Les rumeurs du congédiement de Pierre Gauthier sont fausses. Rumours of Pierre Gauthier's firing are false.
Won't quell the rumors though. Either Goat's gonna be extended or he's being let go and is, as fatso put it, a puppet.

**** I hate this season.

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Following the opinions of "most fans" is no way to run a hockey organization. That "most fans" guy is far, FAR from an expert.
Yes, but it did make sense to follow through with that move. Watch how the Martin record in 2011-2012 surfaced when the team was on a 5 game losing streak with Randy C.

People judged the move solely on the outcome. No one here ever says "****, it was a bad move, I was wrong".

We're conscious that we're not experts, yet we judge the management of this team as if we were.

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Geoff Molson just denied that PG has been fired on his Twitter

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You're out to lunch. The guy has generally made very good moves and, most importantly, showed restraint where needed.
He made good moves in a vacuum. Fact is, we lost 2 top 4 defensemen who were replaced by 2 rookies.

That's a godawful move and not one a team looking to improve would do.

Overall, the team has not made any progress since he took over.

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so what Geoff? you also said martin's job was safe and that we were/ are a stanley cup contender

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Geoff Molson ‏ @GMolsonCHC
Les rumeurs du congédiement de Pierre Gauthier sont fausses. Rumours of Pierre Gauthier's firing are false.
LMAO, that wasn't even the rumour.


God, this organization is ****ing sad.

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Well I'm going with the news than Gainey-Carrière and Timmins are helping Molson. Don't fire anybody right now, I don't care. But DON'T use Gainey as a help either. Like I said in another post, just ask Timmins at this point. Actually, that's the whole point. We need to restack some draft picks. That's Timmins' job. So he's the only one you should ask from some pointers. And actually, Timmins would be part of the package for the next GM. Yep, I understand the GM usually get his own people, but Timmins stays. If you don't want Timmins, you don't have the job.
Judging by the Gill trade, this does not have Gauthier or Gainey's markings on it at all, I'm willing to bet that Timmins is involved , and there may be other hockey people as well, would love to know who they are. Don't remember hearing Marinaro say, that Gainey/Carrier were involved in his advisory group, but I agree with you, if they are, then the habs are spinning their tires with more old ideas

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But he ain't denying that he's running the show.

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Geoff Molson ‏ @GMolsonCHC
Les rumeurs du congédiement de Pierre Gauthier sont fausses. Rumours of Pierre Gauthier's firing are false.
That's about as much support as he and Gauthier showed Cunneyworth.

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what does mean that rumor?

every actions would pass through the Molson before it is accepted?

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Geoff Molson just denied that PG has been fired on his Twitter
marinaro never said he was fired. **** this thread has become broken telephone

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marinaro never said he was fired. **** this thread has become broken telephone
Yeah he did, he said that Gauthier's only the figurehead now and all the moves are being done by other members.

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Yeah he did, he said that Gauthier's only the figurehead now and all the moves are being done by other members.
Yea...and? Bottom line, is Gauthier fired? No.

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Yeah he did, he said that Gauthier's only the figurehead now and all the moves are being done by other members.
No he didn't. Whatever role you are playing, he is still employed. Not fired.

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