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02-21-2012, 07:17 PM
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Such BS. Isles wate a golden opportunity again.

Isles could be 5 points out of 8th and 5 points out of 9th with 2 games at hanf if they decide to show up tonight... So frustrating.

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Unless Grabner has been playing hurt and it has negatively effected his ability to score this year, it would appear that Snow jumped the gun with his 5 year signing.
IDK for sure, but Grabner may be a one trick pony, a circus act that has had his trick taken away from him.
If all he can do is jump on breakaways then he is useless as a hockey player and has no place on this or any other NHL team. Even now his lack of finish is Claude LaPointe like, and he is not getting nearly the chances he had last year.
Besides that, he does nothing else that a NHL forward is expected to do on the ice. he just floats around the perimeter waiting for the puck to come to him or for that breakaway pass.
If he is not playing injured I am ready to explore what we can get for him on the trade market.
Ridiculous statement. You act like he's been useless. He has not been especially for a young player. Do you feel the same way about Nino... let's ditch him too. C'mon on now too many people still trying to treat Grabner like he's an eight year veteran. Give it a rest.

With that said we are definitely sellers but, like a red neck yard sale we don't have much worth selling. It doesn't even warrant an ad in Craig's list.

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grabner has speed...thats it.
he couldnt shoot a puck into an open barn........

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Can we PLEASE stop this talk of the playoffs? Whether we beat the Rangers (doubtful) on Friday or Ottawa on Sunday, please stop the talk about the playoffs. We are deluding ourselves. This is NOT a playoff caliber team. We are sellers, plain and simple. If PA won't resign for what is thought to be the correct price, ship him out. If they can get something good for Streit, trade him. If Nabokov won't resign, trade him. Let's face it guys, we are still in a rebuilding mode and I don't care what year you think we're on...four, five, six...it does not matter. Keep stocking the cupboard with younger players, prospects and draft picks. I don't want to keep this up year after year, but this year is done. Aim toward the draft and getting rid of players who are not part of the future of this team.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCGsqBn9pog

I'm thinking Snow should be sending videos like this to all GM's in the league

"You want a Left Winger, Right Winger Center, Defenseman, Goalie? Come on Down to Crazy Garth's we will not be under sold...Crazy Garth's where our owner is INSANE"

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Can we PLEASE stop this talk of the playoffs? Whether we beat the Rangers (doubtful) on Friday or Ottawa on Sunday, please stop the talk about the playoffs. We are deluding ourselves. This is NOT a playoff caliber team. We are sellers, plain and simple. If PA won't resign for what is thought to be the correct price, ship him out. If they can get something good for Streit, trade him. If Nabokov won't resign, trade him. Let's face it guys, we are still in a rebuilding mode and I don't care what year you think we're on...four, five, six...it does not matter. Keep stocking the cupboard with younger players, prospects and draft picks. I don't want to keep this up year after year, but this year is done. Aim toward the draft and getting rid of players who are not part of the future of this team.


If this team makes the playoffs, somehow, then they're a playoff caliber team, it's quite irrelveant how you feel.

You say it doesn't matter if we beat the rags and the Sens? Well I say it does. Why does it matter. Cause if we do, we'll be in just as good or better shape then we were before yesterday, when everyone was about ready to jump all over the playoff bandwagon.

The Leafs next 2 games: Sharks, and Capitals

Jets next 2 games: Lightning, and Blues

You are telling me that if the Isles win the next 2 games, it will be irrelevant? Youre out fo your mind. Isles could be 3 or 5 points out for crying out loud, which will eb closer than we've been at any point in this "playoff run"

Isles have 2 more games before the trade deadline. That s when managemant and the fans should make their judgments on where this team could be come April, not now.

Why would you trade Streit or PA? Are you out of your mind. What, get a couple picks for PA? reat, they MIGHT help in 5+ years. We're not rebuilding anymore. Even if we are sellers, we're not in "rebuild" mode, like the Bolts. It would make sense to do everything we can to keep both PA and Nabokov even if they wont re-sign before the deadline.

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You say it doesn't matter if we beat the rags and the Sens? Well I say it does.

Why would you trade Streit or PA? Are you out of your mind. What, get a couple picks for PA? reat, they MIGHT help in 5+ years. We're not rebuilding anymore. Even if we are sellers, we're not in "rebuild" mode, like the Bolts. It would make sense to do everything we can to keep both PA and Nabokov even if they wont re-sign before the deadline.

I agree. It always matters if we beat the Rangers, especially when they are Cup contenders. And we won't get diddly for Parenteau (one of our most useful players) or Nabby (the only legitimate goalie we've had in years) or Streit (he may have lost a step, but he's still a top 4 D on this team). The only reason to trade any of your better players is because you are getting back a better option or planning to upgrade the position over the summer. I no longer think Snow can or will upgrade by trade or free agency.

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They've just gotta play out the rest of the year, one game at a time and see where they end up.

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If this team makes the playoffs, somehow, then they're a playoff caliber team, it's quite irrelveant how you feel.

You say it doesn't matter if we beat the rags and the Sens? Well I say it does. Why does it matter. Cause if we do, we'll be in just as good or better shape then we were before yesterday, when everyone was about ready to jump all over the playoff bandwagon.

The Leafs next 2 games: Sharks, and Capitals

Jets next 2 games: Lightning, and Blues

You are telling me that if the Isles win the next 2 games, it will be irrelevant? Youre out fo your mind. Isles could be 3 or 5 points out for crying out loud, which will eb closer than we've been at any point in this "playoff run"

Isles have 2 more games before the trade deadline. That s when managemant and the fans should make their judgments on where this team could be come April, not now.

Why would you trade Streit or PA? Are you out of your mind. What, get a couple picks for PA? reat, they MIGHT help in 5+ years. We're not rebuilding anymore. Even if we are sellers, we're not in "rebuild" mode, like the Bolts. It would make sense to do everything we can to keep both PA and Nabokov even if they wont re-sign before the deadline.
First, how long have you been following the game of hockey? Have you examined the standings recently? Did you see all the teams that gained ground last night? We are closer to last in the conference than a playoff berth. One of us delusional...and I am sure most on this list will be able to pick that person out.

Second, I never said that I did not want the Islanders to beat the Rangers. Go back and read the post for what probably will be the first time all the way through. I said that (paraphrasing) even if we beat the Rangers, we need to stop the talk about the playoffs. We are done! That does not mean that the team should not try. I never said that the team should tank. I indicated that management needs to be realistic about our chances this year. Step away from the crack pipe. You are talking about possibilities. Well, just because we have not been mathematically eliminated, does not mean the playoffs are a realistic goal at this point. I would hope the players would go all out...again no tanking...but, as fans, I would hope we could see the writing on the wall. I see you can't.

Third, trading Streit would not be the worst thing in the world depending upon the return. It could be that he is still coming back from missing a year. Or, it could be a serious decline in his skills, which is COMMON for players approaching their mid-30s. IF the team could get a good, promising young player or prospect on the verge, I say do it. Regardless of what you or I feel, the team will do what the team feels is the best for the future. But, my point was...stop talking playoffs. I am all for keeping PA and Nabokov. However, if they cannot be resigned, and the return is good (i.e., no more second round picks) they HAVE TO do it. I did not even mention PA in my post so thanks for reading into it and making things up. I stand by what I have said previously and here.

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I think people are decrying the effort the last two games. those efforts do not get you to the playoffs. the problem this team has, and will continue to have until its addressed either via trade, prospect up-play, or FA acquisition...is lack of secondary scoring and another legit top4 dman.....which i think is where we started off LAST offseason talking about.

Sure, its possible that we make the playoffs. maybe. we have to leapfrog several teams, play much better than we've show able to CONSISTANTLY.....winnipeg has a much more favorable schedule....but yeah its possible.

....and IF we get there? the rags? we beat them in a 7 game series? ....c'mon. please.

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First, how long have you been following the game of hockey? Have you examined the standings recently? Did you see all the teams that gained ground last night? We are closer to last in the conference than a playoff berth. One of us delusional...and I am sure most on this list will be able to pick that person out.

Second, I never said that I did not want the Islanders to beat the Rangers. Go back and read the post for what probably will be the first time all the way through. I said that (paraphrasing) even if we beat the Rangers, we need to stop the talk about the playoffs. We are done! That does not mean that the team should not try. I never said that the team should tank. I indicated that management needs to be realistic about our chances this year. Step away from the crack pipe. You are talking about possibilities. Well, just because we have not been mathematically eliminated, does not mean the playoffs are a realistic goal at this point. I would hope the players would go all out...again no tanking...but, as fans, I would hope we could see the writing on the wall. I see you can't.

Third, trading Streit would not be the worst thing in the world depending upon the return. It could be that he is still coming back from missing a year. Or, it could be a serious decline in his skills, which is COMMON for players approaching their mid-30s. IF the team could get a good, promising young player or prospect on the verge, I say do it. Regardless of what you or I feel, the team will do what the team feels is the best for the future. But, my point was...stop talking playoffs. I am all for keeping PA and Nabokov. However, if they cannot be resigned, and the return is good (i.e., no more second round picks) they HAVE TO do it. I did not even mention PA in my post so thanks for reading into it and making things up. I stand by what I have said previously and here.
I dont care about the standings. You said it wont matter if we beat the Rangers or Sens, that were still done. Im saying youre wrong. If we beat them there s a solid chance well be 3-5 points out of 8th place.

Trading Streit would be unbelievably stupid. This is the worst year of his career! His value is at an all time low. The rest of this eyar and next year he will only be better, and will only be more valuable. Trade our 2nd best dman, an incredibly weak position o our team, when his value is at an all time low? I think not

And no. If Nabby cant be re-signed, we'll trade him for a 2nd round pick. Thats "good return"? I dont think so. Not at this point in time. If we can get a young NH player who will improve the offense or defense right now? Then the return will be good. Anything less? Not worth it. Not worth the several extra losses this year.


And um.... you did mention PA? I think I read your post more thoroughly than you did

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I think people are decrying the effort the last two games. those efforts do not get you to the playoffs. the problem this team has, and will continue to have until its addressed either via trade, prospect up-play, or FA acquisition...is lack of secondary scoring and another legit top4 dman.....which i think is where we started off LAST offseason talking about.

Sure, its possible that we make the playoffs. maybe. we have to leapfrog several teams, play much better than we've show able to CONSISTANTLY.....winnipeg has a much more favorable schedule....but yeah its possible.

....and IF we get there? the rags? we beat them in a 7 game series? ....c'mon. please.
You know better than anyone that the Isles show up to playt eh Rangers 99 times oout of 100. We'd have as good a shot or better than any other team in the East.

And besides? Would you prefer a 1st round elimination (3 extra sellouts never hurts, fan support increase, some around the league recognition, etc), or say the 6th-13th overall pick?

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I dont care about the standings. You said it wont matter if we beat the Rangers or Sens, that were still done. Im saying youre wrong. If we beat them there s a solid chance well be 3-5 points out of 8th place.

Trading Streit would be unbelievably stupid. This is the worst year of his career! His value is at an all time low. The rest of this eyar and next year he will only be better, and will only be more valuable. Trade our 2nd best dman, an incredibly weak position o our team, when his value is at an all time low? I think not

And no. If Nabby cant be re-signed, we'll trade him for a 2nd round pick. Thats "good return"? I dont think so. Not at this point in time. If we can get a young NH player who will improve the offense or defense right now? Then the return will be good. Anything less? Not worth it. Not worth the several extra losses this year.


And um.... you did mention PA? I think I read your post more thoroughly than you did
I stand corrected on the PA comment.

I clearly stated NO MORE SECOND ROUND PICKS. Check it out.

I am suggesting that they should explore a trade involving Streit. I think he'd be the best D-man moved. He could bring a lot, probably more than you would expect. Just because he is OUR 2nd best D-man, does not mean he really is a #2. He is having a bad year defensively, but his offensive production has been nice. I think he could get us a good, quality player, pick, and/or prospect. By the way, I am not the only one who thinks that we could explore a trade involving him. I've read it on this list and also on LIGHTHOUSEHOCKEY.COM, not that they are an authority, but others have suggested it. With regard to Streit, I can see that we see this two different ways. I am thinking that he is trending down. You think he is on his way back up. I just disagree with that. I am not saying that he is terrible, but he has been ineffective this year from a defensive perspective and that is putting it mildly. I did think that Streit would bounce back; I was wrong. He has had most of a season to get himself back to feeling normal again. He has not gotten there. Now, you think that a D-man who is 34 and will be 35 in the middle of next season is going to get back to where you want him? He could be part of a nice defensive rotation, but he is not a top-pairing guy anymore. Perhaps, his play will prove me wrong there. I actually hope you are right. I just think you are wrong.

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You know better than anyone that the Isles show up to playt eh Rangers 99 times oout of 100. We'd have as good a shot or better than any other team in the East.

And besides? Would you prefer a 1st round elimination (3 extra sellouts never hurts, fan support increase, some around the league recognition, etc), or say the 6th-13th overall pick?
Are you kidding me? Did you just say that the Islanders have as good a chance as anyone to beat the Rangers in a 7 game? This Islanders team? The one that I have been watching all season? You think the Islanders will play the Rangers as tough as Boston, New Jersey, Philly, etc.? Wow. I truly admire your passion. I can sense that you are a true fan. I, too, LIVE the Islanders. I used to record games during the season just to rewatch them in the summer INCLUDING LOSSES! I could not get enough, even the bad games. I still absolutely love the Islanders. However, I am not sure what to say...I guess I'm not as a good a fan as you are because I don't have as much faith in the make up of this team...no secondary scoring, no size, let's just say that the 3rd and 4th lines don't rank up there with the best in the league, very limited talent on D, limited speed. This IS NOT a playoff team. You said (in another post) that they would be a playoff team IF they made the playoffs. I actually agree with you. However, they are not making the playoffs. This team had a chance and they blew it with home and home losses to Toronto, the recent loss to Ottawa, and last night's loss to Buffalo. Now, they play the Rangers coming up and Ottawa...the team that is 1st in the conference and a team that is fighting for its playoff life! We will be lucky to win one of them. Then, comes the trade deadline. The only thing I can tell you is that, if we don't trade several players, it will because there was limited/no interest or teams lowballed us. It will NOT be because management views this as a playoff team.

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I stand corrected on the PA comment.

I clearly stated NO MORE SECOND ROUND PICKS. Check it out.

I am suggesting that they should explore a trade involving Streit. I think he'd be the best D-man moved. He could bring a lot, probably more than you would expect. Just because he is OUR 2nd best D-man, does not mean he really is a #2. He is having a bad year defensively, but his offensive production has been nice. I think he could get us a good, quality player, pick, and/or prospect. By the way, I am not the only one who thinks that we could explore a trade involving him. I've read it on this list and also on LIGHTHOUSEHOCKEY.COM, not that they are an authority, but others have suggested it. With regard to Streit, I can see that we see this two different ways. I am thinking that he is trending down. You think he is on his way back up. I just disagree with that. I am not saying that he is terrible, but he has been ineffective this year from a defensive perspective and that is putting it mildly. I did think that Streit would bounce back; I was wrong. He has had most of a season to get himself back to feeling normal again. He has not gotten there. Now, you think that a D-man who is 34 and will be 35 in the middle of next season is going to get back to where you want him? He could be part of a nice defensive rotation, but he is not a top-pairing guy anymore. Perhaps, his play will prove me wrong there. I actually hope you are right. I just think you are wrong.
Streit has been miscast as as #1 on the Isles, but he is more of a #3 and a PP QB on a good team. There is no urgency to deal him as he could easily be part of the solution next year. If he's dealt, I could see him dealt this offseason since he is a pending UFA after next year or maybe at next year's trade deadline. We do need him right now and if he finishes the year strong, it'll up his value.

We all know how bad our defense is and it's hard to put faith on one or more of the kids playing in Bridgeport right now to crack the lineup and be successful next year. Unless we draft a defenseman with our 1st round pick and he can step into the NHL right away, it'll have to be by trade or sign a 2nd tier guy to fill some of those important minutes. I'd rather we hold onto Streit for the time being.

To get back to Parenteau, if he can land us a young promising defenseman such as a Blum or a Petrecki (I have liked this kid for a while and he could add some snarl) then I'll pack his bags for him and drive him to the airport. I think it's clear that PA has priced himself out of LI and Snow is best served trading him to improve our defense.

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Are you kidding me? Did you just say that the Islanders have as good a chance as anyone to beat the Rangers in a 7 game? This Islanders team? The one that I have been watching all season? You think the Islanders will play the Rangers as tough as Boston, New Jersey, Philly, etc.? Wow. I truly admire your passion. I can sense that you are a true fan. I, too, LIVE the Islanders. I used to record games during the season just to rewatch them in the summer INCLUDING LOSSES! I could not get enough, even the bad games. I still absolutely love the Islanders. However, I am not sure what to say...I guess I'm not as a good a fan as you are because I don't have as much faith in the make up of this team...no secondary scoring, no size, let's just say that the 3rd and 4th lines don't rank up there with the best in the league, very limited talent on D, limited speed. This IS NOT a playoff team. You said (in another post) that they would be a playoff team IF they made the playoffs. I actually agree with you. However, they are not making the playoffs. This team had a chance and they blew it with home and home losses to Toronto, the recent loss to Ottawa, and last night's loss to Buffalo. Now, they play the Rangers coming up and Ottawa...the team that is 1st in the conference and a team that is fighting for its playoff life! We will be lucky to win one of them. Then, comes the trade deadline. The only thing I can tell you is that, if we don't trade several players, it will because there was limited/no interest or teams lowballed us. It will NOT be because management views this as a playoff team.


I understand your concerns but once again youre not recognizing that if the Isles were to even have that shot to beat the Rangers, they would have to go, let's say, 17-5-0 in their last 22 games. Hypothetically of course, a team capable of that run cant beat the Rangers? Especially considering the ISles play the Rangers hard every time, even if the team is at its worst?

And once again, yeah, Ill give them a 3-5% chance of making the playoffs. But you cant write them off when technically speaking, the Isles could be 3 points out in 4 days. Once again, the Isles play twice before the Deadline and so do the Jets and Leafs. That will determine whether we trade guys, not much else.

There will be interest in guys liek Staios and Eaton and Jurcina, even if its just for mid to late round draft pick for each. But its guys like PA and Nabby you need to be concerned about. You say the team lacks secondary scoring. So you give up one of the best playmakers in the league for a pick ro prospect who may never make an NHL impact? It just doesnt make sense. Youd rather get rid of PA forever or take the risk of signing him in the offseason. With a player still yougn and so important, you dont trade him for "whatever you can get". You just dont do that. You do that with the guys I mentioned before, but for a guy like PA, you need to say "we want this, we need to be blow away, we need a great offer" Why? BEcaus eif the Isles do lose one of the next 2 games... Then, we become sellers... And then? PA becomes one of the few best and most coveted players available this trade deadline. And when that is the cae, you jsut dont deal a player for whatever you can get, you merely take the biggest overpayment, and if you dont get one? Then you keep him,a nd press your luck in the offseaosn tryign to extend him

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Streit has been miscast as as #1 on the Isles, but he is more of a #3 and a PP QB on a good team. There is no urgency to deal him as he could easily be part of the solution next year. If he's dealt, I could see him dealt this offseason since he is a pending UFA after next year or maybe at next year's trade deadline. We do need him right now and if he finishes the year strong, it'll up his value.

We all know how bad our defense is and it's hard to put faith on one or more of the kids playing in Bridgeport right now to crack the lineup and be successful next year. Unless we draft a defenseman with our 1st round pick and he can step into the NHL right away, it'll have to be by trade or sign a 2nd tier guy to fill some of those important minutes. I'd rather we hold onto Streit for the time being.

To get back to Parenteau, if he can land us a young promising defenseman such as a Blum or a Petrecki (I have liked this kid for a while and he could add some snarl) then I'll pack his bags for him and drive him to the airport. I think it's clear that PA has priced himself out of LI and Snow is best served trading him to improve our defense.
I don't think the Islanders have to get rid of Streit. I like him and I hope he gets his game turned aroun. I think he could be part of a better D corps. I was basically saying that the team should dangle him to see what they could get. If another team offered a 1st round pick and a serious prospect (especially a D prospect), I'd say adios to Streit. I am not interested in the Hal Gill return. I believe Streit is worth a lot more than that. If there is a reason not to trade him IMO, it is because he is the captain of the team.

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I don't think the Islanders have to get rid of Streit. I like him and I hope he gets his game turned aroun. I think he could be part of a better D corps. I was basically saying that the team should dangle him to see what they could get. If another team offered a 1st round pick and a serious prospect (especially a D prospect), I'd say adios to Streit. I am not interested in the Hal Gill return. I believe Streit is worth a lot more than that. If there is a reason not to trade him IMO, it is because he is the captain of the team.
I get you and I'm in agreement. Snow wouldn't be doing his job if he didn't look at options to improve the team. Unless he's bowled over by an offer, Streit will stay. If anything, Streit could be one of the better options at the trade deadline next year for some team. The return could be well worth it next year.

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I understand your concerns but once again youre not recognizing that if the Isles were to even have that shot to beat the Rangers, they would have to go, let's say, 17-5-0 in their last 22 games. Hypothetically of course, a team capable of that run cant beat the Rangers? Especially considering the ISles play the Rangers hard every time, even if the team is at its worst?

And once again, yeah, Ill give them a 3-5% chance of making the playoffs. But you cant write them off when technically speaking, the Isles could be 3 points out in 4 days. Once again, the Isles play twice before the Deadline and so do the Jets and Leafs. That will determine whether we trade guys, not much else.

There will be interest in guys liek Staios and Eaton and Jurcina, even if its just for mid to late round draft pick for each. But its guys like PA and Nabby you need to be concerned about. You say the team lacks secondary scoring. So you give up one of the best playmakers in the league for a pick ro prospect who may never make an NHL impact? It just doesnt make sense. Youd rather get rid of PA forever or take the risk of signing him in the offseason. With a player still yougn and so important, you dont trade him for "whatever you can get". You just dont do that. You do that with the guys I mentioned before, but for a guy like PA, you need to say "we want this, we need to be blow away, we need a great offer" Why? BEcaus eif the Isles do lose one of the next 2 games... Then, we become sellers... And then? PA becomes one of the few best and most coveted players available this trade deadline. And when that is the cae, you jsut dont deal a player for whatever you can get, you merely take the biggest overpayment, and if you dont get one? Then you keep him,a nd press your luck in the offseaosn tryign to extend him
Again, I want to say that I admire your passion. You truly are an optimist and that is a good thing!

I am definitely not saying "cut PA loose" for whatever you can get. If another team does not offer some serious value, then, yeah, I'd take my chances on resigning him before July 1st. I just think they need to figure out if he really wants to return and at what cost. If they think he'll resign (at least a good chance to resign), they should take their chances. If they think he is going to want JT money or close to it, they have to seriously consider trying to get something for him now. Again, I am not suggesting that "something" should be a second round pick or a Ty Wishart-type of prospect. I'd consider trading PA, if I were the GM, for a first round pick and a decent prospect, or for a top prospect. We agree...it has to be overpayment.

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I understand your concerns but once again youre not recognizing that if the Isles were to even have that shot to beat the Rangers, they would have to go, let's say, 17-5-0 in their last 22 games. Hypothetically of course, a team capable of that run cant beat the Rangers? Especially considering the ISles play the Rangers hard every time, even if the team is at its worst?

And once again, yeah, Ill give them a 3-5% chance of making the playoffs. But you cant write them off when technically speaking, the Isles could be 3 points out in 4 days. Once again, the Isles play twice before the Deadline and so do the Jets and Leafs. That will determine whether we trade guys, not much else.

There will be interest in guys liek Staios and Eaton and Jurcina, even if its just for mid to late round draft pick for each. But its guys like PA and Nabby you need to be concerned about. You say the team lacks secondary scoring. So you give up one of the best playmakers in the league for a pick ro prospect who may never make an NHL impact? It just doesnt make sense. Youd rather get rid of PA forever or take the risk of signing him in the offseason. With a player still yougn and so important, you dont trade him for "whatever you can get". You just dont do that. You do that with the guys I mentioned before, but for a guy like PA, you need to say "we want this, we need to be blow away, we need a great offer" Why? BEcaus eif the Isles do lose one of the next 2 games... Then, we become sellers... And then? PA becomes one of the few best and most coveted players available this trade deadline. And when that is the cae, you jsut dont deal a player for whatever you can get, you merely take the biggest overpayment, and if you dont get one? Then you keep him,a nd press your luck in the offseaosn tryign to extend him
I want to come on here to thank you for your optimism. While I thought I was being the realist, you were right. I guess I have been jaded by so many lost games and lost seasons that I did not have hope that a last place team could beat a first place team. You had hope and I wanted to revive this thread to give you your props! Congrats, Sir!

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I want to come on here to thank you for your optimism. While I thought I was being the realist, you were right. I guess I have been jaded by so many lost games and lost seasons that I did not have hope that a last place team could beat a first place team. You had hope and I wanted to revive this thread to give you your props! Congrats, Sir!
I think we can definitely agree that was one hell of a win lol

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I understand your concerns but once again youre not recognizing that if the Isles were to even have that shot to beat the Rangers, they would have to go, let's say, 17-5-0 in their last 22 games. Hypothetically of course, a team capable of that run cant beat the Rangers? Especially considering the ISles play the Rangers hard every time, even if the team is at its worst?

And once again, yeah, Ill give them a 3-5% chance of making the playoffs. But you cant write them off when technically speaking, the Isles could be 3 points out in 4 days. Once again, the Isles play twice before the Deadline and so do the Jets and Leafs. That will determine whether we trade guys, not much else.

There will be interest in guys liek Staios and Eaton and Jurcina, even if its just for mid to late round draft pick for each. But its guys like PA and Nabby you need to be concerned about. You say the team lacks secondary scoring. So you give up one of the best playmakers in the league for a pick ro prospect who may never make an NHL impact? It just doesnt make sense. Youd rather get rid of PA forever or take the risk of signing him in the offseason. With a player still yougn and so important, you dont trade him for "whatever you can get". You just dont do that. You do that with the guys I mentioned before, but for a guy like PA, you need to say "we want this, we need to be blow away, we need a great offer" Why? BEcaus eif the Isles do lose one of the next 2 games... Then, we become sellers... And then? PA becomes one of the few best and most coveted players available this trade deadline. And when that is the cae, you jsut dont deal a player for whatever you can get, you merely take the biggest overpayment, and if you dont get one? Then you keep him,a nd press your luck in the offseaosn tryign to extend him
PaP one of the best Playmakers in the league? If you ever wanna really really laugh listen to the delusions of a homer sports fan
You do love the isles!

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