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02-25-2012, 07:30 PM
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Sometimes BMac tweets the most inane stuff. No ****, sherlock. If the rumour IS true, would Molson admit it?
Well it goes both ways, Marinaro said something totally unverifiable and Mackenzie just tried to verify it and got a solid, resounding answer. Yet there's a thread about the non-credible (at best) Marinaro and you're dismissing Bob Mack?

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Ook, I have no problem with ppl wanting him gone and talking about how bad he is, but to say that he has no value is just wrong.

And the Zidlicky deal proves that is MTL wanted to trade Kaberle they would get a better return than wtv the Canes might get if they trade Spacek.
Which again brings the question.....is Kaberle an untouchable?

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Also, regarding Martin, he showed phenomenal restraint by giving him another chance to turn the season around.
The only thing that turned around after the firing of Martin was our playoff chances. They turned around straight into the toilet. The fact of the matter is the closest RC has been to a playoff spot was the day he took the job. I honestly think the utter failure of the coaching change alone is enough to fire Gauthier. But the Markov contract, the lack of even an attempt to sign Wisniewski, the Kaberle trade and the general lack of professionalism that Gauthier has exhibited while trading away players all adds up.

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02-25-2012, 07:31 PM
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But we are supposed to believe Tony Marinaro?
I can't stand marinaro, and I won't believe anything he says just because he says it, but what was Bobby Mac's point with those tweets?

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If that's true, then it confirms my worse fears. And you fans better pray Habs are getting another real GM soon before this joke of an owner runs this organization to the ground...again.

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Well it goes both ways, Marinaro said something totally unverifiable and Mackenzie just tried to verify it and got a solid, resounding answer. Yet there's a thread about the non-credible (at best) Marinaro and you're dismissing Bob Mack?
Nobody is dismissing Bobby Mac. Yet, again, Gainey called Carbo his best move and fire him 2 months after. So at one point, they can say whatever they want, it doesn't mean it's not happening. How do you want Molson to answer this? By a YES? Pierre Gauthier is no longer calling the shots on his own, we formed a committee, and will be on his back till year's end? How great is this for the future GM's to be?

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**** Marinaro he is a news-*****.

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So now we can add meddling owner to the list of reasons why the Habs suck this season. Awesome...
I don't know if that's true. I mean if we are looking at a GM change, then you are probably looking at a some degree of intervention from ownership for a short period.

We don't know if the rumor is true, or to what degree it is true, and, if true, we don't know how much Molson is meddling or not. No one really knows what is going on. We might as well just enjoy the ride and wait and see what happens at seasons end, instead of panicking.

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Why can't things ever be simple when it comes to our team? We wonder why the team is dying on the ice. UFAs would probably rather sign with Phoenix and Edmonton than come here. What a mess.

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Sometimes BMac tweets the most inane stuff. No ****, sherlock. If the rumour IS true, would Molson admit it?
No ****.

It's funny how CTV played along, and alowed this to be on local news. I mean, must be a first they get some "tv sports personality" to come on and say he has very credible sources, then asked by whoever was next to him how credible they are, and tony responds by saying "Good enough to get me to be here right now". Then goes on to say the rumor. I mean it was FOX style breaking news, Iraq has Yellow Cake type of moment.
Anyways, i'm inclined to belive part of rumor, which is that Ownership is affecting decision making of the GM's job to some extend (IMO higher then most clubs around NHL).
But i would also not be suprised that this insider basically told tony that Molson has to approuve all decisions, which might be something that might only be symbolic to Molson wanting to understand the decision making. (which IMO i would be suprised lol).

Definatly good news clip, gonna go see if i can stream some team 990 and if they are talking about this

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Well it goes both ways, Marinaro said something totally unverifiable and Mackenzie just tried to verify it and got a solid, resounding answer. Yet there's a thread about the non-credible (at best) Marinaro and you're dismissing Bob Mack?
I'm not dismissing him. But asking an NHL owner to confirm or deny rumours is ****ing stupid.

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The only thing that turned around after the firing of Martin was our playoff chances. They turned around straight into the toilet. The fact of the matter is the closest RC has been to a playoff spot was the day he took the job. I honestly think the utter failure of the coaching change alone is enough to fire Gauthier. But the Markov contract, the lack of even an attempt to sign Wisniewski, the Kaberle trade and the general lack of professionalism that Gauthier has exhibited while trading away players all adds up.
What lack of professionalism!?!?!?

I'm so ****ing sick of this. Gauthier has been anything if not professional. He tells his players the moment he trades them, just so they don't have to hear it when it gets leaked on twitter. He calls them all by their professional name in public. He defends all his players in public, like Markov. He thanks all his players after moving them (except Cammy ).

Wiz wasn't going to stay, we all knew it. The Markov contract was a calculated risk that failed. Which leaves the Kaberle trade, which is honestly the least of our worries.

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What's George Gillett up to these days?

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RDS took the Marinaro news off their website..lol

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I completely agree with what you're saying, but to be fair, most fans wanted Martin fired. It was obviously a horrible decision from management's point of view, but it did make sense to a lot of people outside the organization.
Firing Martin wasn't a mistake.

Firing Martin before going on a road trip on a game day and replacing him with an ex-senator loser unilingual anglophone coach with no real experience as NHL head coach was.

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If that's true, then it confirms my worse fears. And you fans better pray Habs are getting another real GM soon before this joke of an owner runs this organization to the ground...again.
We haven't won anything (nor come close) in 20 years. This year were actually on the path to a top 3 pick and a potential franchise player.

That's closer to right path than anything we've seen here in a long, long time.

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What lack of professionalism!?!?!?

I'm so ****ing sick of this. Gauthier has been anything if not professional. He tells his players the moment he trades them, just so they don't have to hear it when it gets leaked on twitter. He calls them all by their professional name in public. He defends all his players in public, like Markov. He thanks all his players after moving them (except Cammy ).

Wiz wasn't going to stay, we all knew it. The Markov contract was a calculated risk that failed. Which leaves the Kaberle trade, which is honestly the least of our worries.
Ask the players their opinion of Gauthier and Martin, find out the opinion of other NHL excutives their opinon of Gauthier, he does not have many fans or allies

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I'm not dismissing him. But asking an NHL owner to confirm or deny rumours is ****ing stupid.
Getting Marinaro on CTV to announce a non-news story that is completely unverifiable is ****ing stupid.

The owner himself says that nothing is different this season, the power-structure is the same as it's always been and that Gauthier isn't fired. Marinara says that he's a puppet and Serge Savard might be consulting as GM.

I'm more inclined to trust the one who doesn't look like Fat Tony.

Either you change the thread title to add in BobMack's addendum or you close this. Not that I'm bossing you around dude, but Marinaro does NOT get the upper-hand on Bob Mack.

(was gonna reduce the text I minimized, but I'll keep it to be fair. Sorry about that, was over the line!)


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I can't stand marinaro, and I won't believe anything he says just because he says it, but what was Bobby Mac's point with those tweets?
Molson's probably the one who called him and asked him to clear up the situation in exchange for an early scoop next time something comes up. That's how most political news media works and I can only assume it's similar in sports. It would explain how a guy like McKenzie knows things before everyone else.

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Ask the players their opinion of Gauthier and Martin, find out the opinion of other NHL excutives their opinon of Gauthier, he does not have many fans or allies
Prove it. Who has ever publicly said anything about either one of them? Prove it.

Also, nice that RDS removed the Tony Marinaro news.

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What lack of professionalism!?!?!?

I'm so ****ing sick of this. Gauthier has been anything if not professional. He tells his players the moment he trades them, just so they don't have to hear it when it gets leaked on twitter. He calls them all by their professional name in public. He defends all his players in public, like Markov. He thanks all his players after moving them (except Cammy ).

Wiz wasn't going to stay, we all knew it. The Markov contract was a calculated risk that failed. Which leaves the Kaberle trade, which is honestly the least of our worries.
Seriously??? Gauthier's professionalism?
He traded Cammalleri mid-game. sent him by cab to the hotel and sat him there for an hour until telling him he was traded. He fired Perry Pearn game-day. I'm pretty sure he fired Martin on a practice day...before an extended road trip. He tells players they have been traded but does not tell them where, according to Gill and Spacek.

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I never listen to anything Marinaro has to say!! He's wrong 99.99% of the time and just says idiotic things to the media to stir the pot when it doesn't need to be stirred.

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Marinaro standing beside Wilde like a little boy waiting for goodies. What a joke, we've all known for sometime now that's Goats is not making all the calls and eventually he will be replaced and Marinaro will look like he knew what he was talking about. Puts himself in a position that he can't fail...

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Getting Marinaro on CTV to announce a non-news story that is completely unverifiable is ****ing stupid.

Either you change the thread title to add in BobMack's addendum or you close this. Not that I'm bossing you around dude, but Marinaro does NOT get the upper-hand on Bob Mack.

The owner himself says that nothing is different this season, the power-structure is the same as it's always been and that Gauthier isn't fired. Marinara says that he's a puppet and Serge Savard might be consulting as GM.

I'm more inclined to trust the one who doesn't look like Fat Tony.
Nixon also told ppl Watergate was ********...

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Seriously??? Gauthier's professionalism?
He traded Cammalleri mid-game. He fired Perry Pearn game-day. I'm pretty sure he fired Martin on a practice day...before an extended road trip.
So people should be fired whenever smon and Francois Gagnon thinks it's appropriate?

Pearn and Gauthier OBVIOUSLY disagreed with what was ailing the team. They had a meeting that weekend and Gauthier decided to fire Pearn.

Cammy was going to be traded after the Bourque suspension but his comments and Gagnon's ******** news story forced his hand... so he waited till the CGY game started and traded him.

As for Martin... So what?

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Nixon also told ppl Watergate was ********...
This is a hockey team, not the leader of the free world in the middle of Nuclear Cold War

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