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02-07-2012, 06:59 PM
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Pierre McGuire during the Wings/Coyotes job said that if he got a GM job one of his top 3 choices for head coach would be Mike Milbury.
NBC buddies...what a duo those two idiots would be...

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NBC buddies...what a duo those two idiots would be...
Millbury was actually a pretty good coach. Terrible GM, but whenever he had talent to work with, his teams did pretty well.

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Millbury was actually a pretty good coach. Terrible GM, but whenever he had talent to work with, his teams did pretty well.
But its Millbury!!
Mcguire should be drawn and quartered just for bringing him up as a top 3 candidate.

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02-25-2012, 11:10 AM
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Dont know if Timmins could do a good job at GM ... he's great at drafting talent

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Just a thought:

What about Mark Hunter for GM? Provided that you could pry him away from the London Knights, that is. Hunter has had some success coaching at the lower levels but where he has really excelled is with the perennial powerhouse that he has built the Knights into since he bought the club along with Dale.

As an added bonus Mark started his NHL career with Montreal so the media might take it easy on him for not speaking french.

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02-25-2012, 12:12 PM
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Mentioned it in another thread but curious how people would feel about Paul Maurice as next head coach. Always liked the guy myself.

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02-25-2012, 12:25 PM
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I'd vote for Bob MacKenzie for special consultant to the GM. Then I'd hire Kerry Fraser as Player Counsel to provide them with all the insight on how to play the line without getting caught. Is that what Boston did?

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What about Mark Hunter for GM? Provided that you could pry him away from the London Knights, that is. Hunter has had some success coaching at the lower levels but where he has really excelled is with the perennial powerhouse that he has built the Knights into since he bought the club along with Dale.
There's a big difference between running a pro club and a junior one, plus if Dale's work as a Head Coach is any indication, clubs really ought to stay away.

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02-25-2012, 07:15 PM
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What about Dougy Gilmore as Coach or GM?

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02-25-2012, 07:33 PM
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Just a thought:

What about Mark Hunter for GM? Provided that you could pry him away from the London Knights, that is. Hunter has had some success coaching at the lower levels but where he has really excelled is with the perennial powerhouse that he has built the Knights into since he bought the club along with Dale.

As an added bonus Mark started his NHL career with Montreal so the media might take it easy on him for not speaking french.
If you are going to get someone out of junior for coach or GM I would prefer to see it be a guy who isn't a part of the big money franchises like London or Quebec. With wink-wink deals they're able to lure the top-end talent to the league and you can't really do that in the NHL.

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What about Dougy Gilmore as Coach or GM?
hes been horrid in the OHL at both jobs

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We don't need a new GM. We have Geoff Molson

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We don't need a new GM. We have Geoff Molson
well if he was indeed pulling the strings on the Cammaleri deal, maybe he needs to fire himself already

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Dont know if Timmins could do a good job at GM ... he's great at drafting talent
I wouldn't mind Timmins. He has an eye for talent, understands the importance of building through the draft, is a passionate and tireless worker, has been in the organization for a decade, has followed most of the NHL players since they were teens. My only concern is that the mediots would likely rip this appointment to shreds.

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02-25-2012, 11:20 PM
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If you are going to get someone out of junior for coach or GM I would prefer to see it be a guy who isn't a part of the big money franchises like London or Quebec. With wink-wink deals they're able to lure the top-end talent to the league and you can't really do that in the NHL.
You mean it's not Roy's record as a player and the fact that he's animated behind the bench that brings all that talent to the Remparts?

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02-25-2012, 11:22 PM
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Timmins?

No way. Timmins needs to be on the train out of Montreal along with Gauthier, Gainey, Patrick Boivin, Carriere and anyone else associated with the Pierre Boivin disaster era.

Yeah, Timmins hit a couple of good players but look at all of the busts that he has drafted. Surely after 11 years, he would have drafted more than a couple of superstars.

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Timmins?

No way. Timmins needs to be on the train out of Montreal along with Gauthier, Gainey, Patrick Boivin, Carriere and anyone else associated with the Pierre Boivin disaster era.

Yeah, Timmins hit a couple of good players but look at all of the busts that he has drafted. Surely after 11 years, he would have drafted more than a couple of superstars.
Timmins track record speaks for himself. One of the best scouts in the NHL. Let's keep him where he is.

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According to the hockey News draft preview last year Habs have picked more NHLers than any other organization in the last decade of drafting.

Why would you fire Timmins?

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Timmins track record speaks for himself. One of the best scouts in the NHL. Let's keep him where he is.
Most overrated in the NHL. I am tired of all of the Chipchuras, Similas, Trunevs, Torps, Fischers, Maxwells, Valentenkos, Cepaks, Mikus', Paquets etc and so on that he has picked.

Carey Price, PK Subban and Max Pacioretty. Those are his only standouts playing for Montreal.

Timmins needs to go.

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02-26-2012, 12:14 AM
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According to the hockey News draft preview last year Habs have picked more NHLers than any other organization in the last decade of drafting.

Why would you fire Timmins?
See how many NHL superstars you see in this list....

2007 Ryan McDonagh
2007 Max Pacioretty
2007 P.K. Subban
2007 Olivier Fortier
2007 Yannick Weber
2007 Joe Stejskal
2007 Andrew Conboy
2007 Nichlas Torp
2007 Scott Kishel
2006 David Fischer
2006 Ben Maxwell
2006 Mathieu Carle
2006 Pavel Valentenko
2006 Cameron Cepek
2006 Ryan White
2005 Juraj Mikus
2005 Carey Price
2005 Mathieu Aubin
2005 Matt D'Agostini
2005 Sergei Kostitsyn
2005 Philippe Paquet
2005 Guillaume Latendresse
2004 Kyle Chipchura
2004 Alexei Yemelin
2004 J.T. Wyman
2004 Mikhail Grabovski
2004 Loic Lacasse
2004 Jon Gleed
2004 Greg Stewart
2004 Mark Streit
2004 Alexandre Dulac-Lemeli
2003 Andrei Kostitsyn
2003 Cory Urquhart
2003 Maxim Lapierre
2003 Ryan O'Byrne
2003 Corey Locke
2003 Danny Stewart
2003 Christopher Heino-Lind
2003 Mark Flood
2003 Oskari Korpikari
2003 Jimmy Bonneau
2003 Jaroslav Halak

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02-26-2012, 12:22 AM
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Carey Price, PK Subban and Max Pacioretty. Those are his only standouts playing for Montreal.
He also has plenty of stands out playing for other team (Streit, S.Kos., Grabo, McDonagh, Halak...) and that's not his fault they aren't with the team anymore.

You do realize that only about 19% of all the drafted players make a career for themselves in the NHL? (494 out of 2600 from 1990 to 1999) That most of them, by definition, do not stand out? Timmins result are pretty good, especially considering we didn't have high picks. Which of course, we are remedying this year...

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See how many NHL superstars you see in this list....

2007 Ryan McDonagh
2007 Max Pacioretty
2007 P.K. Subban
2007 Olivier Fortier
2007 Yannick Weber
2007 Joe Stejskal
2007 Andrew Conboy
2007 Nichlas Torp
2007 Scott Kishel
2006 David Fischer
2006 Ben Maxwell
2006 Mathieu Carle
2006 Pavel Valentenko
2006 Cameron Cepek
2006 Ryan White
2005 Juraj Mikus
2005 Carey Price
2005 Mathieu Aubin
2005 Matt D'Agostini
2005 Sergei Kostitsyn
2005 Philippe Paquet
2005 Guillaume Latendresse
2004 Kyle Chipchura
2004 Alexei Yemelin
2004 J.T. Wyman
2004 Mikhail Grabovski
2004 Loic Lacasse
2004 Jon Gleed
2004 Greg Stewart
2004 Mark Streit
2004 Alexandre Dulac-Lemeli
2003 Andrei Kostitsyn
2003 Cory Urquhart
2003 Maxim Lapierre
2003 Ryan O'Byrne
2003 Corey Locke
2003 Danny Stewart
2003 Christopher Heino-Lind
2003 Mark Flood
2003 Oskari Korpikari
2003 Jimmy Bonneau
2003 Jaroslav Halak
All solid players. Timmins is the least of our problems. One of the best in the bizz.

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02-26-2012, 12:40 AM
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See how many NHL superstars you see in this list....

2007 Ryan McDonagh
2007 Max Pacioretty
2007 P.K. Subban
2007 Olivier Fortier
2007 Yannick Weber
2007 Joe Stejskal
2007 Andrew Conboy
2007 Nichlas Torp
2007 Scott Kishel
2006 David Fischer
2006 Ben Maxwell
2006 Mathieu Carle
2006 Pavel Valentenko
2006 Cameron Cepek
2006 Ryan White
2005 Juraj Mikus
2005 Carey Price
2005 Mathieu Aubin
2005 Matt D'Agostini
2005 Sergei Kostitsyn
2005 Philippe Paquet
2005 Guillaume Latendresse
2004 Kyle Chipchura
2004 Alexei Yemelin
2004 J.T. Wyman
2004 Mikhail Grabovski
2004 Loic Lacasse
2004 Jon Gleed
2004 Greg Stewart
2004 Mark Streit
2004 Alexandre Dulac-Lemeli
2003 Andrei Kostitsyn
2003 Cory Urquhart
2003 Maxim Lapierre
2003 Ryan O'Byrne
2003 Corey Locke
2003 Danny Stewart
2003 Christopher Heino-Lind
2003 Mark Flood
2003 Oskari Korpikari
2003 Jimmy Bonneau
2003 Jaroslav Halak
depends entirely on your notion of "superstar"...


but i think you are barking up the wrong tree.

Match that list up to any teams in the league, and I pretty sure you'll quickly appreciate just how good he is.

only 2 top-10 pick in his tenure (and next to impossible to argue with the player he ended up with from his highest pick), and yet he's got:

2 quality starting goaltenders
3 top pairing Dmen
3 top-6 dmen
5 top-6 forwards
4 established 3rd/4th line forwards

17 NHLers (and another 8-10 prospects from recent drafts that appear very likely to end up as NHLers).


Very few, if any, teams in the league could match that kind of success.

complaining about the lack of "superstars", when superstars predominantly emerge from top-10 picks (which he's had only 2, 1 of which yielded a "superstar"), is pretty silly.


If you are so sure Timmins is overrated running the draft, please do provide some evidence from other teams that indicate a much better track record at drafting NHL talent...

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02-26-2012, 02:56 AM
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If you are going to get someone out of junior for coach or GM I would prefer to see it be a guy who isn't a part of the big money franchises like London or Quebec. With wink-wink deals they're able to lure the top-end talent to the league and you can't really do that in the NHL.
While Hunter has been running the Knights they've only had Rick Nash, Patrick Kane, John Tavares, Corey Perry, Michael Del Zotto, John Carlson, Sam Gagne, Sergei Kostitsyn come through their ranks. The vast majority of which were either drafted by or traded for by the Knights. The London Knights are a big money franchise now because Mark and Dale built them into one. They went from 1,854 season ticket holders to 7,200 season ticket holders since they took over the franchise and attendance has gone from 3300 to 9100. If there's anything they know it's how to identify talent and how to produce winners.

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Todd Nelson is best young coach in AHL - Oklahoma City

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Todd_Nelson_(ice_hockey)


Jim Nill for GM

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