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02-26-2012, 02:45 AM
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Oilers and Caps talking - Gagner

Oilers and Caps talking.

I am hearing rumblings that the Caps are trying to trade for Gagner. More to come on this one...

Source: Eklund



What's it going to take to get Gagner out of Edmonton? He's a RFA due a decent raise I'm guessing from his $2.275 current salary.

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02-26-2012, 02:46 AM
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Top 4 defenseman or no sale.

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Top 4 defenseman or no sale.
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Talk about awful trading partners.

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Talk about awful trading partners.
Nonsense.

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So its true, we are getting a 3rd center, and gonna call em a 2nd center.

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My initial reaction was, "why? is Gagner really a huge upgrade over Johansson?"

but then i got to thinking...i'd be awfully curious to see what happens if you put a guy like Ovechkin on Gagner's wing...hmmm...

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Is Gagner likely to develop
into a legit 2C? If there is 50% chance of that the Caps ought to be interested. The Oilers have a lot of talent at F. Maybe they'd benefit by trading an F for a D. But I don't see the Caps giving up Green, Alzner, Carlson or Orlov. So why would EDM do it? Unlikely.

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Is Gagner likely to develop
into a legit 2C? If there is 50% chance of that the Caps ought to be interested. The Oilers have a lot of talent at F. Maybe they'd benefit by trading an F for a D. But I don't see the Caps giving up Green, Alzner, Carlson or Orlov. So why would EDM do it? Unlikely.
A 1st rounder, a solid young D or Johansson IMO would be what would interest us. That said right now I'm thinking that a mid first for Gagner wouldn't bee too good from the Oilers side unless it was at the draft and we had a center taken with our top pick.

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i would do alzner bourque and a 2nd for gagner
really finding it hard to make a trade fit under the cap for washington without giving up too much.

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i would do alzner bourque and a 2nd for gagner
really finding it hard to make a trade fit under the cap for washington without giving up too much.
Alzner++ for Gagner?


I'd be interested in Holtby, but I'm not sure it makes sense to trade for a young goalie when they're so unpredictable.

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I don't wanna see gagner go..

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everyone knows its kane for miller and then gagner for whatever so that kane and gagner can be reunited in kanes hometown!

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Alzner
Orlov
Carlson

One of those names, or Tambo doesn't even entertain the idea. Doubt it would happen though.

The Oilers can still try to land a defenseman via free agency this summer. I'd much rather they moved picks and prospects to do it too. Gagner still fits the rebuild strategy considering his age and production as a 2nd liner.

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Gagner
MPS

for

Alzner
Johansson
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Gagner
MPS

for

Alzner
Johansson
2nd
so...eklund posts something and the result is this? the caps trde their young top 5 pick shutdown defenseman and their 20/21 year old center? come people.

the caps wouldnt trade alzner for pronger. now that he is what they hped for they wont be trading him for anyone. johansson either.

why are we even talking about this? eklund is never accurate. nobody ever sees mcphee's actual moves ahead of time. combine the two and you get complete fiction

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Don't see a fit here at all. Oilers won't let Sammy go for lesser pieces or futures, Caps won't part with Alzner.

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Gagner
MPS

for

Alzner
Johansson
2nd
So, Mojo only has 6 pts less than Gagner, and from what I have seen is better defensively. He is s a much cheaper cap hit, and a year younger (miniscule value). Yet the Caps throw in a second and Alzner?


If Caps are throwing in Mojo it will be for a significant vet upgrade.

I would do;
Wideman, and our 1st for Gagner.
or Wideman, Eakin, 2nd

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So, Mojo only has 6 pts less than Gagner, and from what I have seen is better defensively. He is s a much cheaper cap hit, and a year younger (miniscule value). Yet the Caps throw in a second and Alzner?


If Caps are throwing in Mojo it will be for a significant vet upgrade.

I would do;
Wideman, and our 1st for Gagner.
or Wideman, Eakin, 2nd
Yeah, but Gagner scores 8 point games

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To me this seems like a real no-brainer, at least on the Caps side. Gagner is better than Johanssen, and the team doesn't have a timeline on Backstrom's return. As a long term option for #2 centre, you can certainly do worse than a talented guy like Gagner.

The question is -- what are they prepared to give up? The upgrade from MJ to Gagner isn't worth losing Alzner, and Wideman is of no value to the Oilers. Maybe an Orlov + Holtby gets it done? The caps don't have a very good prospect pool.

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To me this seems like a real no-brainer, at least on the Caps side. Gagner is better than Johanssen, and the team doesn't have a timeline on Backstrom's return. As a long term option for #2 centre, you can certainly do worse than a talented guy like Gagner.

The question is -- what are they prepared to give up? The upgrade from MJ to Gagner isn't worth losing Alzner, and Wideman is of no value to the Oilers. Maybe an Orlov + Holtby gets it done? The caps don't have a very good prospect pool.
He isn't that much of an upgrade that he is worth giving up Holtby (who many consider better than Neuvy), and Orlov (who I like more than Carlson).

And it is Eklund on the Caps, so this isn;t happening anyway. Still waiting for his OV to Nashville rumor from a few yrs back.

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I think it might have something to do with his play before his hot streak and where abouts the oil have been sitting in the standings the last few years with him as a second line center. You can stick any skill player in that role and it may not equal wins even if that player puts up the points. Look at Grabovski..hes a 2nd line center...just on a losing team.

I do think Gagner would benefit playing for a team like the caps and Hunter again.

How does Gagner compare to Brassard? stats wise? These are types of players the caps will have to aquire I feel if they want a center...and hopefully they breakout.
Do you mean the 20 points he had in his first 30 games after coming back from a ankle sprain....before his "hot streak"?

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Do you mean the 20 points he had in his first 30 games after coming back from a ankle sprain?
How is he defensively? Not flaming but I dont see alot of wins coming out of the oil change and while hes putting up good stats is he a key component to allowing goals?

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As they say with Eklund rumors . . . Where there's smoke, there's smoke.

Honestly though, if a deal was to be made I think Orlov and a pick would be plenty

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