Spacek unquestionably will be dealt. Likely for an underwhelming return of a 3rd round pick. With the way he has hit the tank here in the last few weeks, concerns that he is washed up may be keeping teams away.
I think the rumors of Allen being back in play are legit. I feel like we would have heard more from JR if the two were close on something. But that is operating on the presumption that the two sides are actively talking right now. I think somebody posted something to the effect that they were, but I have little doubt that JR knows his fate already. I would say chances are pretty solid he's going to be traded considering the way the market has evaporated for valuable rental players.
I still have a feeling that Boychuk and perhaps even Dalpe might be in play in a hockey trade. I know that Mueller isn't happy with what he's hearing from them down there. Surprisingly, Bowman and Samson have gained the inside track as coach's favorite call ups. Disappointing for me in particular to see Dalpe going backwards somewhat considering how high of hopes I had for him. My opinion on Boychuk has been well documented. I can't help but feel like we're going to make one trade that is going to surprise. Even with the value of increased role players, Larose may get some sniffs.
Id like to see Allen, Boychuk, Larose, and Spacek dealt for an NHL player, a good prospect and a 3rd round or higher pick. Im not sure how the individual deals would work but i would like that net result.
I'm surprised Jaro lasted this long. Not so much because he's played so bad, but because he has nothing holding him here and I'm guessing several teams would be interested in him for the little bit they'd have to give up. I don't see us re-signing him this summer, so JR might just as well get what he can from him and that will be the end of the Kabs nightmare.
I also think we'll see another defenseman shipped out. With Joni coming back, Joslin ready to slip back to defense, and there being a few Checkers that could use a look, I think JR will see another defenseman as expendable. Although I would guess Allen, he has a NTC and might not want to leave his family unless it's to a team he's convinced can go deep. If it's there, I can see JR making a trade of one of our other defenseman to improve our forward group.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jussi or Chad were moved. With Chad being out now, that might be a bit of a drawback on him. I'm also of the mind that I'm not sure Jussi is a Muller type of guy. I think most feel that Jussi signed for less here tho, and JR might keep him because of that.
I also think that Boychuk could easily be dealt if JR can find any interest. IMO, he could be a part of a package deal.
I would love Allen to come back (let's face it, he's our only real crease clearer that doesn't get manhandled by the bigger forwards on our team), but with the revival of his play over the last year, I'm not sure we'll be able to get him back at a price that's palatable for us unless he takes a hometown discount. That's mainly why I would be in favor of trading him, but I'm not opposed to him coming back either.
Spacek has been a decent option here and could fit on any 3rd pairing, but he pretty much has no future with the organization. Hopefully we can get a 3rd-5th for him.
That was me, and yeah you're right, not sure what the reasoning is.
Maybe now that they have an owner that is willing to spend some money they'll actually make a trade there figuring that they can spend what Roy makes more effectively in this offseason. Then again probably not, like us they're dreadfully thin down the middle, but unlike us they lack a legit #1 or #3 centerman. Roy is a top #2 but they're in a tough situation until they address the lack of a #1.
I wouldn't necessarily expect a lot from Frolik but he's a guy I'd be willing to give a shot. I'd only go as far as to move Spacek for him one-for-one, though, and most blackhawks fans seem ok with that deal.
I wouldn't be surprised to see some non UFA players moved. We really don't need LaRose, Dwyer, Nodl, Stewart, Jokinen, etc and plan on bringing up Samson and Bowman. Plus, Boychuck will never be a Cane, and we have a couple other prospects to unload if there are takers.
Unless JR is blowing smoke (which is always a possibility), it seems as if Allen must be going somewhere for something. Spacek certainly looks like a possibility as well, but I'm not as sure, he might be a new locker room guy we try to re-sign.
Lot of guesses out there....lot of good guesses...here's my two cents worth. It is pretty simple to take a flyer on who we will trade or we could trade. It is much more complex when trying to factor in with whom are we going to trade?
In the West, those teams are limited either by cap space or need. We're not going to trade with Edmonton, Anaheim, and even Minnesota is looking problematic. The Ducks probably like their team as constituted, the Oil are more likely to be sellers, and the Wild might be slipping more into seller status. I'm thinking teams like the Preds, the Stars, Chicago, or even St. Louis look like better bets. So whose needs match up best with our assets. Maybe Chicago or St. Louis represent the best opportunities as trading partners. The Blues could use secondary scoring as well as a playmaking forward. They would also benefit from a solid 5-6 D-man. Chicago has made it no secret that they are looking for some defensive help. In both of these scenarios the Canes have interesting assets that could be in play. These are the types of cases where Spacek, Allen, McBain, and even Jokinen could be in play in one combination or another.
Chicago has a very interesting asset in Jimmy Hayes not to mention the oft mention Michael Frolik. St. Louis has one Chris Stewart who has come up before in certain trade speculations, but I think that any deal with the Blues would be more about prospects and picks.
In the East, I think we know who the usual suspects are: Boston, Philadelphia, and perhaps Ottawa. I'm less inclined to think that the Sens are going to mess with their chemistry, so that leaves the Bruins and the Flyers....who both need just about the same thing...defensive depth. Names like Caron and JVR have cropped up and I still wouldn't mind either of these guys wearing the sightless eye, Van Riemsdyk especially (but with the acquisition of Kubina I don't know how much perceived need remains in that front office).
So if I were a betting man, I'd put money on Spacek and Allen being gone. There's a chance that Jokinen could go as well as Boychuk, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if young Zach were retained and given one last shot next year (or if he were moved at the draft). Finally if an infamous "hockey trade" were to take place then one of your young defensemen or defensive prospects would be gone along with other surprising assets (Bowman, Dalpe, Jokinen, Brent, etc.).
You know how teams tend to get a round higher for each year out the pick is in a trade? Well, if we can't get a 2012 first for Allen, I'd love to "settle" for a 2013 first, so we'd have two tickets in the Nathan MacKinnon - Seth Jones lottery.
JR certainly is being very coy this year and frankly, it's making me nuts. It's almost like he's taking great pride in the fact that he's not actively looking for anything. He really should be, IMO, and the fact that he's sitting there thinking we're fine as we are is driving me crazy. If we don't trade Allen and/or Spacek, I'm really gonna have to take a break from this *****.