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02-26-2012, 05:55 PM
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I fully believe the line that the Rangers are out. At the start of the weekend it was said that they wanted to know where things stood within 48 hrs or they were out. This would obviously be a pretty huge acquistion & cost to the team & it really isn't the kind of deal you want to make at the checkout line in the minutes before the deadline.

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02-26-2012, 05:55 PM
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NYR wasn't willing to pay price established for Nash prior to today + today CBJ asked for more than they were originally after.#tradecentre
Wow. Idiots.

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02-26-2012, 05:56 PM
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Good. Didn't want pudgy anyway.

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Honestly, wtf is Howson doing down there? Sather's unwilling to meet the price, so Howson asks for more?


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02-26-2012, 05:57 PM
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The Columbus Blue Jackets’ demands for captain Rick Nash remain steep, and unless something drastic happens in the hours leading up to Monday’s 3 p.m. trade deadline, he will not be joining the Rangers for a playoff run this spring, the News has learned.

Several reports late Sunday afternoon suggested similar disinterest from the Rangers and GM Glen Sather. Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson is believed to want Brandon Dubinsky, 2009 first-round pick Chris Kreider, at least one other player or prospect and a first-round pick for Nash, the Blue Jackets’ captain.
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ran...ours-leading-u

Kreider will receive $900,000 MAX plus $300,000-$400,000 in bonuses. He will give the Rangers 3 years of cheap service. Why would they trade that?

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NYR wasn't willing to pay price established for Nash prior to today + today CBJ asked for more than they were originally after.#tradecentre

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I'm glad they aren't going to trade for Nash. I think the team is fine the way the are and don't need to add another huge contract like Sather was known for doing in the past.

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LOL thats some funny stuff. Howson is a clown.

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02-26-2012, 05:57 PM
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NYR wasn't willing to pay price established for Nash prior to today + today CBJ asked for more than they were originally after.#tradecentre
How ****ing stupid can Howson be? Not getting what you want? Want MOAR!!!! He's just wasting everyone's time with this ********.

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02-26-2012, 05:58 PM
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If that's true, that's pure amateur hour from Howson. Wow.

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So the price got jacked up today.
Brilliant move Howson.

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https://twitter.com/#!/DarrenDreger/...18586971242496



The price went up today.

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02-26-2012, 05:59 PM
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Well, I'm certainly glad Howson is an idiot.

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02-26-2012, 05:59 PM
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NYR wasn't willing to pay price established for Nash prior to today + today CBJ asked for more than they were originally after.#tradecentre
That's kinda moronic (I can say that, right? I don't want to offend morons)


Anyway, when i say moronic, I mean in the sense that it's likely Howson is using the same tactic with the other teams.

But I agree with some of you -- there is no way Nash can remain with the club. He essentially asked to be traded and participate in the postseason, and it looks like he's staying put for now.

If I'm a betting man, i say Nash plays out the string in 2012 and gets traded on draft day. On that day, Howson (if he's employed) and the rest of the world will know exactly who failed in the playoffs, who didnt make the playoffs and who will be drafting and where.

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02-26-2012, 06:00 PM
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Howson's job isn't to appease the NY fans. He can ask for whatever he wants and if you don't like it, don't accept.

If you were a Columbus fan and he traded Nash for ****, you'd all be pretty pissed.

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02-26-2012, 06:00 PM
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Guys, it's really simple. They've been negotiating for weeks, both sides beginning with no-brainer offers and then moving closer. Piecing together info from various reports, Howson started out wanting something ridiculous like "one of McD/MDZ, Stepan, Dubi and a 1st" and Slats started out saying, "well you got the Dubi + a 1st part right."

At various stages over the interim, either directly or the media, they've come closer. As of this week it was reported that Howson was down to Dubi, a first, but still demanding one of McD/MDZ and most recently, if I heard Dreger right, lastly down to one of McD/MDZ a top prospect and a 1st. Slats had upped his offer a couple of times, first to Dubi, McIlrath, Thomas and a 1st, then to Dubi, Erixon, Thomas and a 1st. As a very last step, there was consideration that Miller might be the last chip to go either in place of Erixon or Thomas.

Howson is now saying, "that's it, we can talk about all the other pieces, but I need one of those two Dmen." Slats has responded, "nope, you've got my best offer - we're running out of time and I am now officially looking at other options."

There are 20 hours or so left. Slats could cave at the last minute, but I highly doubt it. In the meantime, he's genuinely looking at other options. Howson is sticking to his guns and trying to drum up interest elsewhere - and frankly I think is doing so in a last ditch effort to get Slats to change his mind, because I think the Rangers have been the only other realistic option all along. He too could still cave - and I put that at a higher probability, because I just don't see the upside in keeping Nash and trying again later. Before either one closes a deal that would then make it impossible for the Nash deal to happen, they would likely call the other and say "this is it, I'm about to do X. Last chance..."

Very curious to see how it plays out. I put the odds at:

50% Nash comes to the Rangers at the last minute (at the last reported offer from Slats).
45% he stays in CLB and they try again over the summer (huge mistake in my book, but then again who cares what my opinion is?)
5% something else completely off the radar turns up from out of the blue.



EDIT: Howson UPPED his demands at the last minute??? I take it all back. The scenario above presumes that both parties know how to negotiate. Clearly Howson is off his meds.


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02-26-2012, 06:00 PM
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02-26-2012, 06:02 PM
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Anybody watch the BJ/Pens game today?
As soon as Nash scored on that breakaway, I actualy blurted outloud that Howson is really going to really lose his mind now.

That bear is friggin awesome!! lol ^

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02-26-2012, 06:02 PM
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I think it's pretty evident that Howson would ask for Kreider, MDZ/McD, and something along of the lines of Dubi.
I can keep that list going... It's been a while since we've had bonafide talent to deal and I think we would all agree that we'd only be willing to part with something like: Dubinsky/Sauer or Erixon/Thomas and maybe a pick for Nash which Howson will never agree to.
We can throw around crap proposals all day, but I'd be shocked if Howson pulls the trigger for a subpar deal on a gamechanger like Nash... and subsequently no one wants to give up Staal, MDZ, Kreider, McD, Stepan, Hags.

I hope Sather sticks through and keeps the core for years to come.
Don't screw with success.

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02-26-2012, 06:03 PM
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Howson's playing the game.

in asking for more today he's trying to get Sather thinking that someone is out there willing to beat or match Sather's offer with more of what he (Howson) needs.

It's a ploy that I use on a regular basis when selling construction equipment.

It actually works.

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I feel like in Howson's mind he's thinking "If I jack up the price, they'll settle for what I originally wanted!"

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Howson: I ante and i fold

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02-26-2012, 06:05 PM
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Howson's playing the game.

in asking for more today he's trying to get Sather thinking that someone is out there willing to beat or match Sather's offer with more of what he (Howson) needs.

It's a ploy that I use on a regular basis when selling construction equipment.

It actually works.
Exactly. He asks for more and maybe Sather agrees to the initial offer.

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Howson's playing the game.

in asking for more today he's trying to get Sather thinking that someone is out there willing to beat or match Sather's offer with more of what he (Howson) needs.

It's a ploy that I use on a regular basis when selling construction equipment.

It actually works.
Was just going to post the EXACT same thing.

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02-26-2012, 06:07 PM
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Howson DOES NOT have to pull the trigger. He has all the leverage in the world. He has all offseason to move Nash if he really wants to.

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