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02-26-2012, 06:43 PM
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I aint even mad. Should care that we lost but the way the seasons gone i just wanna get it over with and head up to the podium at the draft. Fail for Mikhail. He's the player we have coveted for so long.

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Campoli to the Rangers for a 5th.
**** that..... a 4th, they owe us.

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Molson should just ask Gauthier and Gainey to stay in Florida. Forever.

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Wow....

67 - 51 - 72

76 -- 74

Are basically the guys who cared.

And Gorges as well. Probably a better goalie than Budaj at this point.

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Losing has never tasted so good!!

On the positive side.. Emelin is amazing!! Solid #3 defenseman for years..
Losing is for losers, is not in the tradition of this team.
miss our last # 11, and hate the current # 11.

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Habs started out strong. After 10 minutes, Florida adjusted to the Habs' chip-it-out-pass-it-ahead-dump-it-in system. Cunneyworth adjusted by telling his guys to work harder. The end.

The "lack of effort" line is going to be used again, but the problem isn't there. The problem is that the Habs simply do not play in a way where they will usefully control the puck. So they're always chasing, always getting there too late, always looking like they're doing nothing when the problem is that they're doing the wrong thing. Always the same, always simplest play, always easy to adjust to.

The team's lack of a transition game is completely, utterly sad and it's all because they don't even try. They have only one play to get it out of the zone, and once Florida took that away they were able to bottle the Habs in their own zone pretty much permanently.

Meanwhile, they don't have an offensive zone scheme that's able to prevent Florida from simply collecting their dump-in and turning it around. They just try to bang bodies down low even if the puck is long gone.

Oh, and how many pointless long pass attempts have there been? Most of those resulted in needless turnovers. I've even seen the Habs, with the puck in their zone and no pressure for once, attempt a three-line pass rather than skate with it. Predictably, it failed. It's like the stretch pass is the only way they know how to get across the neutral zone now.

Sigh. Same scenario over and over and over and over and over again. And we'll only see more of this until the season is over.

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You know, you can't want a high draft pick from a tank job then get pissed when it happens. That's just stupid.
My thoughts exactly. It's pretty funny actually..

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You know, you can't want a high draft pick from a tank job then get pissed when it happens. That's just stupid.
its frustrating to see them lose, but overall you know its good for the team

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Losing is good for the tank and since Florida is ahead of the Leafs 2 huge points for them.. Win - Win..
Finding some sunshine in losing....I like that.

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Is this part of Gainey's 5 years plan?

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AK playing 11 minutes, either being held back to prevent injury due to trade, or just being misused....take your pick.
Plus he didn't play the last 12 minutes of the game

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Sure, we can lose all we want and end up 29th in the league, but you know damn well that come lottery day, a team above us will win and push us back to 3rd overall.

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Mikhail Grigorenko here we come! Ya Baby!

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Habs started out strong. After 10 minutes, Florida adjusted to the Habs' chip-it-out-pass-it-ahead-dump-it-in system. Cunneyworth adjusted by telling his guys to work harder. The end.

The team's lack of a transition game is completely, utterly sad and it's all because they don't even try. They have only one play to get it out of the zone, and once Florida took that away they were able to bottle the Habs in their own zone pretty much permanently.

Meanwhile, they don't have an offensive zone scheme that's able to prevent Florida from simply collecting their dump-in and turning it around. They just try to bang bodies down low even if the puck is long gone.

Oh, and how many pointless long pass attempts have there been? Most of those resulted in needless turnovers. I've even seen the Habs, with the puck in their zone and no pressure for once, attempt a three-line pass rather than skate with it. Predictably, it failed. It's like the stretch pass is the only way they know how to get across the neutral zone now.

Sigh. Same scenario over and over and over and over and over again. And we'll only see more of this until the season is over.
I was no JM fan, but I remember something about keeping the passes short...less chance of a turnover. It's like RC has 180'd on JM's system, and the boys either don't get it or don't like it.....

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Ok Pierre, now listen to me, here is the deal I'm putting on the table.
(Already have Park Place) You give me Boardwalk and I will give you Mideterranean Avenue + a Free landing, so if you land on my territory once, you have a free pass.
Baltic is still free no one owns it, you may be able to land on it and get it.

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Is this part of Gainey's 5 years plan?
Yes, the Second Edition....otherwise knows as the Re-Rebuild.

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I was no JM fan, but I remember something about keeping the passes short...less chance of a turnover. It's like RC has 180'd on JM's system, and the boys either don't get it or don't like it.....
Do you think the boys liked it when JM told them to play defense before scoring goals? Hells to the no!

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farewell ak46..i liked you as a player but a change of scenario is the best for both parties. Please get raduuu on the way back!

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Oh the Canadiens played? They lost? Awww, I was too busy scoring actual goals and winning. (not the same caliber but whatever!)

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Do you think the boys liked it when JM told them to play defense before scoring goals? Hells to the no!
Nope...but when your defense looks like the Habs, then you gotta play defensive, if you don't well, then you're playing Cunneyworth hockey and how's that working out?

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Finding some sunshine in losing....I like that.
At this point that's all we have left..

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Gauthier tomorrow at the 5pm presser :

"We decided not to make any trade. We still believe we can compete with the team we have. Injuries to Markov and Darche were a big part of why we are 28th in the NHL."

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The only people that can be mad after this game are the ones who didn't have the check-up with reality after the All-star break.

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I was no JM fan, but I remember something about keeping the passes short...less chance of a turnover. It's like RC has 180'd on JM's system, and the boys either don't get it or don't like it.....
It's not that they don't "get" it; it's nigh-impossible not to "get" hockey this simple. And it's not that they don't "like" it, though I can't imagine any of them is very fond of it. It's just that playing that way is never going to work at the NHL level.

Hockey is about puck possession and the Habs are giving the puck away every chance they get, looking for puck position or a stretch pass. Any good coach who's half-awake will recognize what the Habs are trying to do and -- since they are eminently predictable -- turn the Habs' tactics against them, by simply collecting the puck when the Habs give it up and rapidly sending it the other way.

Martin may have been boring to some, but at least there was puck support and transition and options for players and actual structure. There's essentially no structure anymore. This is kindergarten hockey -- the simplest possible play every single time.

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