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02-25-2012, 05:20 PM
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Kreider is never going to put up 50 assists
depending on the line he plays on ... yes he can.

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02-25-2012, 07:46 PM
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I'll stick with what I've always said - he reminds me of a bigger Tony Amonte. And I think he has the potential for a very similar career.
Would be an even bigger, faster Amonte. To be honest I haven't been this upbeat about one of our 1st round draft picks since Brian Leetch--which isn't to say he's going to be better than Brian (that would probably be a real reach) but I see a big time player here. Rangers need to hold on to him.

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Would be an even bigger, faster Amonte. To be honest I haven't been this upbeat about one of our 1st round draft picks since Brian Leetch--which isn't to say he's going to be better than Brian (that would probably be a real reach) but I see a big time player here. Rangers need to hold on to him.
Ditto. seldom have the NYRs selected a player with all the tools that Kreider has. He is sound defensively so right there he fits into what Torts wants. Second, he has speed. The kind of speed most NYR fans are not use to seeing. With Hagelin on board they finally understand what speed can do. Straight ahead he maybe be faster than Hagelin. I don't know if he is as agile, stopping and changing direction to pursue the man with the puck like Hagelin is. He is BIG and still growing. He has an NHL wrist shot already. The puck explodes off his stick. It is hard with a quick release.

Everyone is Nash this Nash that. Nash doesn't make the people around better. Kreider has the same upside and he's home grown and will cost less in terms of cap hit and assets. Go for a Dustin Brown and forget Nash. He's Columbus' problem and now that he wants out I would not give them anywhere near fair value like Columbus and LA have for problem child Carter. Stick witht he program.

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02-26-2012, 10:28 AM
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Ditto. seldom have the NYRs selected a player with all the tools that Kreider has. He is sound defensively so right there he fits into what Torts wants. Second, he has speed. The kind of speed most NYR fans are not use to seeing. With Hagelin on board they finally understand what speed can do. Straight ahead he maybe be faster than Hagelin. I don't know if he is as agile, stopping and changing direction to pursue the man with the puck like Hagelin is. He is BIG and still growing. He has an NHL wrist shot already. The puck explodes off his stick. It is hard with a quick release. Everyone is Nash this Nash that. Nash doesn't make the people around better. Kreider has the same upside and he's home grown and will cost less in terms of cap hit and assets. Go for a Dustin Brown and forget Nash. He's Columbus' problem and now that he wants out I would not give them anywhere near fair value like Columbus and LA have for problem child Carter. Stick witht he program.
Wow...He sounds like Oleg Kvasha!

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02-26-2012, 10:59 AM
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Wow...He sounds like Oleg Kvasha!
Maybe Kvasha could have amounted to more if he'd ever been on a decent team.

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02-26-2012, 07:53 PM
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"On the ice, he continues to work on his speed, which is on a par with the Rangers rookie Carl Hagelin"

That seems like quite the stretch for someone at 225lbs.

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02-26-2012, 07:56 PM
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"On the ice, he continues to work on his speed, which is on a par with the Rangers rookie Carl Hagelin"

That seems like quite the stretch for someone at 225lbs.
The thing is, it's not a stretch at all. It is just so incredible that it would make one think it is a stretch. It's scary.

6'3 225 and as fast and good a skater as Hagelin, with an NHL shot. Yes, it is real.

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02-26-2012, 07:57 PM
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"On the ice, he continues to work on his speed, which is on a par with the Rangers rookie Carl Hagelin"

That seems like quite the stretch for someone at 225lbs.
Not a stretch at all. He's Hagelin-fast, while being 6-3, 225, and possessing a great wrist shot.

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02-26-2012, 08:03 PM
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Maybe Kvasha could have amounted to more if he'd ever been on a decent team.
No way...Oleg had skill...but no heart.

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02-26-2012, 08:09 PM
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I can't wait to see him in blue already.

I remember being real excited for staal Stepan Mdz but this guy is getting hyped up on big time. Not saying he doesn't deserve it or anything but I'm just really looking forward to him being here already.

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02-26-2012, 08:13 PM
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Wow...He sounds like Oleg Kvasha!
Oh man.. what hype Kvasha had when the Isles traded for him.
He was huge at 6'5 230 lbs, strong powerful skater and fast, quick release/shot and real good hands. I can see why Milbury was tantalized, however, the guy had no hockey sense or something he was missing. lol

I think Kreider had more hockey sense and will be on a much, much, much better team surrounded by lots of true veterans in the prime of their careers. It is a perfect situation for Kreider to succeed at the NHL level

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02-26-2012, 08:21 PM
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Yup. He definitely isn't as fast as Hagelin






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His strides look so powerful it is literally jaw dropping to see...i wouldnt doubt it when some people say he would be the fastest in the NHL Right NOW!

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While I do think that some people here tend to over hype Kreider a tad the one thing that isnt over hyped is his speed. The kid can flat out fly

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02-26-2012, 08:28 PM
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Yup. He definitely isn't as fast as Hagelin





He's about 20-30 pounds lighter in the vids where he looks ultra fast. Again, my original point of not as fast as Hagelin stands. Though having Gaborick speed isn't too shabby in anyone's book.

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02-26-2012, 08:34 PM
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He's about 20-30 pounds lighter in the vids where he looks ultra fast. Again, my original point of not as fast as Hagelin stands. Though having Gaborick speed isn't too shabby in anyone's book.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/sp...n-college.html

Heres a quote from an article on Kreider a few weeks ago

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On the ice, he continues to work on his speed, which is on a par with the Rangers rookie Carl Hagelin, a Michigan graduate who won the fastest skater competition last month during the N.H.L.ís All-Star weekend.

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02-26-2012, 08:38 PM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/13/sp...n-college.html

Heres a quote from an article on Kreider a few weeks ago
Hehe that's the quote that started this whole mess, I was pointing out the writer was just exaggerating.

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No ****ing way. He is too big for this to be possible:

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At ESPN Insider Craig Custance speaks to an NHL executive who says that not only is Chris Kreider going to be good, but that the way he skates make it seem like he was shot out of a cannon.

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No ****ing way. He is too big for this to be possible:

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But he didnt specifically say he was as fast as Hagelin.

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But he didnt specifically say he was as fast as Hagelin.
Exactly, not sure why it is so hard to contemplate that someone can be very fast without being the fastest! I like what you did there though.

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02-26-2012, 08:51 PM
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Exactly, not sure why it is so hard to contemplate that someone can be very fast without being the fastest! I like what you did there though.
Sarcasm my man, sarcasm. BTW do you think hes as fast as Gaborik?

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Hehe that's the quote that started this whole mess, I was pointing out the writer was just exaggerating.
He's not exaggerating though.

Kreider is THAT fast. I've watched him MANY times, and I'm telling you, this kid has top-end NHL speed. It isn't an exaggeration, at all.

I wouldn't vouch for this if I haven't watched Kreider more than most posters on this entire site.

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No ****ing way. He is too big for this to be possible:

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Hahaha. Nah man, he has Rocket Skates on. He's gotta be cheating someway.

Gotta be Dirtiest Player In The Game, like Ric Flair... WOO!


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I can say with confidence he is not faster in person as he does not become faster as soon as you walk into the building to watch the game anymore than Hagelin becomes faster when I go to MSG.

He is fast there is no doubt, I'm just pointing out that it is kind of silly to compare him to one of the fastest players in the NHL today when there is nothing to back that up and in reality he is just really fast for a big man (which is obviously very good in it's own rite).
that first paragraph makes no sense...i dont really understand what youre talking about?

regarding Kreiders speed, if you havent seen him on a consistent basis, then you just flat out have no clue. Chris could come into the NHL today...and be the fastest player in the league. Right now. No questions asked. He's that effing fast.

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EPIC RAP BATTLE OF HISTORY!!!!

Chris Kreider....


Versus...


Speed Racer...

BEGIN!

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that first paragraph makes no sense...i dont really understand what youre talking about?

regarding Kreiders speed, if you havent seen him on a consistent basis, then you just flat out have no clue. Chris could come into the NHL today...and be the fastest player in the league. Right now. No questions asked. He's that effing fast.
Kreider burns people like I have never seen at a competative level. Granted, the NHL skaters are faster than college skaters(for the most part), he is bananas fast. I just hope he doesn't turn out to be Rico Fata

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