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02-26-2012, 09:59 PM
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Radulov might not be a pure game breaker but he's one of the most dynamic players in the world. In the right situation he can step in and score 35 goals.

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02-26-2012, 10:00 PM
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Carbo back? Sounds like a nightmare.

No more revisiting the past, no more guys whose only qualification is "passion" or loving hard work, please. All I want is a real NHL coach.

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02-26-2012, 10:03 PM
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Funny I thought it was highway robbery for the Jackets. A draft bust and a bag of magic beans who's unlikely to net a significant NHLer let alone a player of Plekanec's caliber for one of the league's better tough-minutes two-way centers and an extra NHLer to boot? Montreal gets fleeced.
But if Columbus is re-building they want nothing to do with our second line center and a supposed lazy russian as AK is perceived league wide.

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Carbo back? Sounds like a nightmare.

No more revisiting the past, no more guys whose only qualification is "passion" or loving hard work, please. All I want is a real NHL coach.
Give us at least one name of a guy who will be available.

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02-26-2012, 10:06 PM
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Give us at least one name of a guy who will be available.
That's the problem. Carlyle wouldn't be the worst...

And if we have to go with someone unqualified, I'd even rather gamble with Roy than Carbo. I'm sceptical about Roy's ability to coach in the NHL but he can't be any worse than what we have now...

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What's wrong with Larry Robinson?

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That's the problem. Carlyle wouldn't be the worst...

And if we have to go with someone unqualified, I'd even rather gamble with Roy than Carbo. I'm sceptical about Roy's ability to coach in the NHL but he can't be any worse than what we have now...
Carbo as an assistant in charge of face offs and PK would be fine. He as been assistant GM before in Dallas. OK with that, too. But, please, not as headcoach again.

I would not mind having Therrien back or Bob Hartley.

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What's wrong with Larry Robinson?
Nothing...but pretty sure he resigned as head coach due to stress in NJ...and if that's the case he sure as **** ain't coming to Montreal.

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02-26-2012, 10:11 PM
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I just saw the highlights of the Habs game and just saw the Versteeg slewfoot on Emelin.. Strange there isn't a "Versteeg slewfoots Emelin" thread on the mainboard or is that only permitted if Subban slewfoots someone?

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Nothing...but pretty sure he resigned as head coach due to stress in NJ...and if that's the case he sure as **** ain't coming to Montreal.
Bring the guy as the Defense coach !

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I just saw the highlights of the Habs game and just saw the Versteeg slewfoot on Emelin.. Strange there isn't a "Versteeg slewfoots Emelin" thread on the mainboard or is that only permitted if Subban slewfoots someone?
..yup

Seems like Emelin is bait for all these cheap hits nowadays that go unpunished, and he can't fight for himself. Eventually someone is going to have to do it, or he's either going to stop hitting or - worst - bolt. Get this team a pugilist with hockey sense already.

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02-26-2012, 10:29 PM
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..yup

Seems like Emelin is bait for all these cheap hits nowadays that go unpunished, and he can't fight for himself. Eventually someone is going to have to do it, or he's either going to stop hitting or - worst - bolt. Get this team a pugilist with hockey sense already.
I'm watching Goon right now. Maybe Doug Glatt is available.. The Habs have too many Xavier Laflamme types..

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02-26-2012, 10:37 PM
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What's wrong with Larry Robinson?
He has my vote but I dont know if he could take the pressure. Not a great guy in a stressfull head coaching situation. I would however love to see Roy as head coach with Robinson and Carbo as assistants. It would be the ultimate in accountability for whatever player sits on that bench in front of those guys.


Roy to Plekanec, Subban or anyone who would challenge....." I cant hear you with my Stanley Cup rings blocking my ears".

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02-26-2012, 10:43 PM
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But, but... it was all Jacques Martin's fault!
it was ...

and fault now of Gauthier putting Carierre behind the bench.


That was the best he could find it really sums up what the team is all about ....

this team couldnt be any worse run,he is the reason it is in last .

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02-26-2012, 10:52 PM
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Nothing...but pretty sure he resigned as head coach due to stress in NJ...and if that's the case he sure as **** ain't coming to Montreal.
Marinaro had an interview earlier this year with him. Robinson said he was interested in the head coaching job before they hired Martin. If I recall, he also said he told his agent to let Mtl know he had interest for it.

His stress related issues happened a while back. Clearly, he doesn't seem to think it's a factor.

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02-26-2012, 10:55 PM
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Our faceoffs were still terrible when Carbo was coach.

Maybe Vigneault will get fired if the Canucks lose again?

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02-26-2012, 10:55 PM
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and fault now of Gauthier putting Carierre behind the bench.


That was the best he could find it really sums up what the team is all about ....

this team couldnt be any worse run,he is the reason it is in last .
This years team has died the day Molson cracked under pressure and pubicly said the coaching staff situation would be re evaluated in the summer and that the french factor would be predominant. It removed any power\credibility\grip Cunney and his assistants could have had on this team.. Now its a mess, Spacek said it right. Boivin would have never put his team in trouble like this.

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02-26-2012, 10:55 PM
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I was at this game. Deplorable effort after going up 2-0. They got outshot, outchanced and outbattled despite Florida not even playing that great to be frank. It was awful. Budaj was awful on 2 or 3 of those goals. May be enough to show the Price haters we'd be CBJ-bad without him. Still, with Price we'd be struggling to get the W anyway. Grades:

Cole- Really engaged physically, threw a sweet check on Ellerby in the early 3rd and generally crease-crashed. Had one of the better showings: A-

Desharnais- Started off superb but then really had trouble creating stuff after. Still, when he was out there things happened. More could learn from how he battles to overcome the size discrepancy: B+

Pacioretty- Showed great physical compete level but after the 1st sort of disappeared. Didn't really get the job done like I expected: B

Leblanc- Didn't generate much in the Panthers zone but forechecks hard and didn't look out of place in the NHL in this game at all. More ice time is deserved but of course we needed to "showcase" people: B-

White: Really used his 4th line energy to go back at the Panthers. Not much in the way of offense but he did his job and didn't make any great mistakes: B-

Kostitsyn- It could be his last game as a Hab and he didn't embarrass himself. But had his lapses. Created a few turnovers and buzzed in the offensive zone though. More than I could say for most of our boys tonight: C+

Gomez- He wasn't totally a non-factor, getting in the scoring zones for some chances. It's not good enough for 7 mill but he had his moments: C+

Eller- Did some nice grunt work, got mixing up but didn't create much offense and had some awful shifts in his own zone. I expected a bit more: C

Nokalainen- Not very noticeable. Hard to grade but since he didn't provide much energy or offensive spark, gotta give him a grand ol': C

Plekanec- Really did not do much in either end. Coasting or playing hurt, not sure which. Not impressed: C

Palushaj- Really doesn't have the hands or hockey sense for the NHL it seems. Every time I saw him do something it was uneventful really: C-

Bourque- God this guy not only looked like he could care less, he was not communicating and other than the 1st generated no chances. Made giveaways, didn't win battles despite his size and looked like a total plug. Real lousy: D-

DEFENSE
Subban- He really was an adventure in his own end but provided offense off the back end like crazy. Also got right up in there and stood up to the Panthers bashing around: B+

Gorges- Usually our most reliable defender but tonight he had troubles. Really got burned in front on the 1st Panthers goal. Still provided reliability but not as much as usual: B-

Emelin- Very imposing and threw some fierce checks but had a few issues on his own end including letting Weiss just jam away at it in front. Needs work but definitely a guy to take into next season: C+

Weber- Did a few ok things and threw the body around for a change. But overall, can't play NHL defense. Shouldn't be on this team next year if we're serious about improving: C

Diaz- Why is this guy even in the NHL? Hard to believe Martin favoured him over Emelin... or is it? Got that chance on the breakaway and had a good look for the backhand but found iron. He's just too soft: C-

Kaberle- Not using teammates at all. Seems like he's on another planet altogether out there. Plus barely contributes offense. Stuck with this crap for 2 years is a depressing thought. **** you Gauthier: D-

Budaj: Faced a barrage of shots, most of which were scoring chances. At the same time got burned for 2 weak goals, 3 if you're not generous. Not what you need from your backup. And people wonder why he's only been in 9 games? Ugh: D-


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02-26-2012, 11:08 PM
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[QUOTE=Hab-a-maniac;45017433]I was at this game.

Thanks for that description , still think there should be a sticked thread or something for people who actually were at the games and can add "behind the scenes" stuff that we can't always see on TV.

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But, but... it was all Jacques Martin's fault!
YES IT WAS. Him and Gauthier together.

We're in this gigantic pile of **** right now because this teams has this ridiculously retarded "one size fits all" mentality. We have absolutely no specialists on the team, we can't award offense 1st players like Kostitsyn with pp time, or suit real 4th line players against real tough teams. The mold of the team that they want SUCKS. Containing the opposition's offense with great goaltending and go for safe counter-attacking is for losers, which is what we are and have been for a lot of years, now matter how many times we (barely) made the playoffs. Look at how NY, Vancouver, Boston and Philly are built, that's how every team in the league should look like, period.

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02-26-2012, 11:21 PM
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Our faceoffs were still terrible when Carbo was coach.

Maybe Vigneault will get fired if the Canucks lose again?
If they want to hire somebody from the past so badly, Michel Therrien is THE man to get. A french Totorella who doesn't take **** or hides his tong when the going gets tough. Patrick Roy above anybody else though.

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02-26-2012, 11:22 PM
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I just saw the highlights of the Habs game and just saw the Versteeg slewfoot on Emelin.. Strange there isn't a "Versteeg slewfoots Emelin" thread on the mainboard or is that only permitted if Subban slewfoots someone?
Thank god there isn't one. Would have been all about "Hey habs fans and Subban, how does it feel to be the receiver now?". He got what he deserved bla-bla-bla. I hate when Subban does that. But I hate it when nobody recognizes the others who also do it. But hey the main board has to be one of the worst ever. And especially towards Habs fans.

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02-26-2012, 11:26 PM
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I was at this game.
I guess Bourque was pretty much invisible watching the game live too huh..

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This years team has died the day Molson cracked under pressure and pubicly said the coaching staff situation would be re evaluated in the summer and that the french factor would be predominant. It removed any power\credibility\grip Cunney and his assistants could have had on this team.. Now its a mess, Spacek said it right. Boivin would have never put his team in trouble like this.
No it wasn't. It cracked the day they decided to fire the man that had control of this team and put someone that essentially, doesn't seem to know what he's doing instead.
To add insult to injury, Larry Carriere, a man that has no coaching experience whatsoever, is also given a job behind the bench.

Management coming out to say language is something to consider and the coaching situation will be reevaluated this summer changes nothing. Everybody knew that was going to be the case anyways. When Martin was fired, Cunneyworth was introduced as an interim. I think it's stupid the way they handled the whole language issue, but it has nothing to do with how the guys played. We've never been good under RC.

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This years team has died the day Molson cracked under pressure and pubicly said the coaching staff situation would be re evaluated in the summer and that the french factor would be predominant. It removed any power\credibility\grip Cunney and his assistants could have had on this team.. Now its a mess, Spacek said it right. Boivin would have never put his team in trouble like this.
First, language is a factor here. Whether Molson said it, even if he would not have said anything, the media would have repeated it every single day. But as much as some people want to not understand it, it is what it is. So everybody and their mother knew that going with Cunneyworth was going to be extremely touchy. What Molson should have done is to not accept Gauthier's decision and go with Martin till the end of the year. Cunneyworth with his lack of experience was not going to get this team going. And again, knowing full well of the controversy that decision would have put the coaching staff and the players under scrutiny, it was not going to help.....and it didn't.

Now, as far as Boivin is concerned, I guess you don't remember the "notre entraîneur doit s'exprimer en français et on veut un joueur d'impact francophone"

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/la-tribune...n-francais.php

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