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02-26-2012, 03:22 PM
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List of candidates for GM and Coach Part II

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Originally posted by Erik Estrada.

Coach

Randy Cunneyworth
Randy Carlyle -ex-coach Anaheim (2011)
Michel Therrien - analyst on RDS
Patrick Roy – co-owner, GM, coach Quebec Remparts
Clément Jodoin – coach Hamilton Bulldogs
Jacques Lemaire – ex-coach Devils (2011)
Benoit Groulx – coach Gatineau Olympiques
Martin Raymond – assistant coach TB
Larry Robinson -assistant coach NJ
Guy Carbonneau – analyst on RDS
Bob Hartley - coach Zcs Lions (Switzerland)
Denis Savard – ex-coach Chicago (2009)
Mark Crawford – ex-coach Dallas (2011)
Pascal Vincent – assistant coach Winnipeg
Gérard Gallant - coach Saint-John Sea-Dogs

Unavailable
Guy Boucher – coach TB
Lindy Ruff – coach Buffalo
Alain Vigneault – coach Vancouver
Kirk Muller – coach Carolina



GM

Pierre Gauthier
Pierre McGuire - analyst on NBC and Versus
Patrick Roy - co-owner, GM, coach Quebec Remparts
Jim Nill – assistant GM, Detroit
Bob Gainey - special advisor Mtl
Julien Brisebois – assistant GM TB/GM Norfolk Admirals
Vincent Damphousse – analyst RDS
Pierre Lacroix – president Colorado
Pat Brisson – co-head Hockey Divison CAA
Trevor Timmins - director procurement and player dev. Mtl
Claude Loiselle – assistant GM Toronto
Serge Savard – co-owner PEI Rockets
Paul Fenton - assistant-GM Nashvile/GM Milwaukee Admirals
Doug Risebrough – president Minnesota (2009)
André Savard - ex-assistant coach Pittsburgh (2009)
Jim Benning - assistant GM Boston
Jarmo Kekkalainen - GM Jokerit (Finland)
Marc Bergevin - assistant GM Chicago


Methodology

1. I compiled all the candidates suggested by posters in Management Thread 2.0 and 3.0.
2. *I didn't exclude any ridiculous suggestions*
3. I wrote the candidates in the same order I found them in those threads.
Edit 1: 4. Deleted
Edit 2: 5. Filtering coaching candidates: Out: Demers.
Edit 3: 6. Filtering GM candidates: Out: Bowman, Lemaire.
Edit 4:
7. Unavailable and not going anywhere: Out: Trotz, Babcock, Julien, Yeo, Quenneville, Poile, Shero, Chiarelli.
Edit 5: 8. Will reconsider an exclusion if any evidence that it's a serious candidacy.
Edit 6:
9. I'll update this list by adding a name either if:
a) a news source suggests a serious candidate, or
b) more than one posters say he's their first choice, or
c) 3 posters suggest a candidate

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Pierre Boivin ? What the hell is this ? Boivin had no intake whatsoever on the product on ice. He was only part of the business side of all operations and far from a disaster it was supreme success.

The Disaster was Gainey, it was and still is the Gainey era. He was the big boy calling all the shots while Gillett had more important business in the UK...

Boivin ... he was just a pawn, that's why he's gone and Gainey is still a very important part of this organization.
Pierre Boivin was PRESIDENT of the Montreal Canadiens. And you are making my point. The business side of the Canadiens was very successful while he ignored what made the Montreal Canadiens THE Montreal Canadiens..........a hockey team with a glorious history of success.

Is the President of the Montreal Canadiens over the GM of the Montreal Canadiens? One would think that is the case and that is why I will forever say that Pierre Boivin was instrumental to this franchise not being successful on the ice.

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Pierre Boivin was PRESIDENT of the Montreal Canadiens. And you are making my point. The business side of the Canadiens was very successful while he ignored what made the Montreal Canadiens THE Montreal Canadiens..........a hockey team with a glorious history of success.

Is the President of the Montreal Canadiens over the GM of the Montreal Canadiens? One would think that is the case and that is why I will forever say that Pierre Boivin was instrumental to this franchise not being successful on the ice.
Actually it was, when he was there.

A big part of managment is getting the most out of your people. When you take out a leader of a team, you get a bunch of lost followers.

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When I was in Montreal last week, every time I mentioned #33 as the next coach, the locals didn't seem too supportive or at the very least were lukewarm to the idea. "Too fiery, hotheaded, selfish"...were among the replies that I got. I have to admit I haven't followed his junior career too much, but I was of the mind that he could be what we need right now. A coach to restore the pride in the jersey. A lightning rod for the media. As far as the actual coaching goes, a committee of sorts would be preferable. Robinson would also need to be involved. I'd include Carbo as an assistant, but maybe that ship has sailed (with good reason).

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We're so far down the Abyss, I say we sign P.Roy as coach and P.Mcguire as GM so we can finish the job. Then in a few years we go get real staff.

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Carlyle as coach and Trevor Timmins as GM for me, I highly doubt Timmins would ever trade his prospects like McDonagh for Gomez... plus think any GMs would try ****ing around with this guy?


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I would go with Carlyle as coach, he`s proven and has a Cup ring

Larry Robinson as Asst. Coach for the D (also proven and has several Cup rings playing as well as coaching).


Julien Brisebois as GM. He`s young, dynamic, knows the system well, and what the pressures in Montreal are

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GM - Jim Nill (assistant GM, Detroit: don't need to know anything else )

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would love to see Blair Mackassey get some consideration as part of the organization

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strong roots in amateur and pro scouting

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anyone hear of a Darche guy as asst coach?

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Carlyle as coach and Trevor Timmins as GM for me, I highly doubt Timmins would ever trade his prospects like McDonagh for Gomez... plus think any GMs would try ****ing around with this guy?


Who is that ??

My vote's goes to Vincent.

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Who is that ??

My vote's goes to Vincent.
Timmins.

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Larry Carrière has been doing a fine job behind the bench, promote his ass

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Larry Carrière has been doing a fine job behind the bench, promote his ass
rumor has it lots of teams interested in asst coach Carriere , Gauthier saying untouchable ...

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Timmins.
God damnit was he a bodybuilder ?

He looked like a small weak guy.

He's probably at 7% fat on this picture

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Even tho I would much rather prefer someone who is actually employed in pro hockey as a scout/ass. GM, a really like how Vincent Damphousse talks and analyses hockey on l'anti-chambre. The big knock on him is that he has zero expericence as a manager in pro-hockey but he has played hockey long enough at a high level to understand what's going on. Was a captain, understands this market and from what I heard, is a pretty smart buisness man.

I don't know if he's the best candidate available but if I was Molson, I give him an interview.

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Add Gorges to the GM list

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God damnit was he a bodybuilder ?

He looked like a small weak guy.

He's probably at 7% fat on this picture
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He has also held the positions of Scouting Coordinator, Strength and Conditioning Coach and Director of Team Services with the Senators. Timmins is a graduate of Queen’s University in Physical Education.
I think his roles in operations come from his experience and education on the subject

He still isn't small. I heard he still trains, but not like that.

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Problem with promoting Timmins is we lose a valuable scouter. Very possible he could take over however.

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Problem with promoting Timmins is we lose a valuable scouter. Very possible he could take over however.
Timmins could still scout some player.
Timmins does not scout all the player he scout's the player he value's worthy. So it doesnt change alot.

Could it be possible to do the swap Timmins GM PG HS ?

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Carlyle as coach and Trevor Timmins as GM for me, I highly doubt Timmins would ever trade his prospects like McDonagh for Gomez... plus think any GMs would try ****ing around with this guy?

LOL wow, well he hasen't been that big since his strength and conditioning days with the Senators. I play hockey with the guy and he still has the pythons but has slimmmmed down quite a bit haha, I'd say he is now about 5"9 185 lbs of twisted steel and sex appeal. Now we have somethin to rag on him about, nice pose Trev.

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I reached the point where I wish for anyone not named Cunneyworth!

Cunneyworth's passion for goons and dump and chase hockey is not reassuring. Martin, Cunneyworth... GAWD... I wish for a creative coach with a 21st century playbook! Not a dinosaur from the past.

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if PG would have gone and sold kaberle and bourque, i would have said groulx from gatineau for coach since it would mean a youth movement. now, not sure... still a good candidate but who knows how he'll adjust.

for gm, my choice still is trevor "i can bench press 600" timmins

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I never thought about Gerard Gallant. With what he's done in junior (granted he has a powerhouse handed to him) it could be fine. I think he's coached the blue jackets before? Seriously, I don't remember. Can he speak a bit of french?

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