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02-27-2012, 12:45 AM
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i was just thinking: "how come he has more haters/doubters now than he did when he was in the east coast league?"

and natey's posts are awesome to read. right on almost every count. major props!
true that

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02-27-2012, 01:00 AM
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Natey is a true hipster. Liking things before they become mainstream.

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02-27-2012, 02:19 AM
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Thanks for the bump.

I got a chance to relive the Cyclones magical season. It was a lot like the Habs of the late 70s. It wasn't IF they were going to win; it was about by how much.

I was impressed by the number of people who posted on this thread who were positive about DD from his ECHL days. Those posters showed DD-like ice vision in their talent evaluation abilities

I had a chance to watch him day in and day out. That he was so far above everyone else in the ECHL was only one of the things that made him stand out. The other was his extraordinary vision. Cincinnati has housed many teams in my day-from the WHA all the way down to some pretty bad junior teams. I've watched them all.
I do not recall a single player who could match DD's passing abilities. That includes Robbie Ftorek-who was WHA MVP one year. As an overall offensive package, Ftorek was greater in his prime, but in raw passing DD outshone him, imo.

I've watched Joffrey Lupul, Dustin Penner, PA Pareneau, Chris Kunitz and Keith Aucoin. DD was better than any of these guys offensively.

The only two recent AHL players to come through Cincinnati way have matched DD offensively were Getzlaf and Andy MacDonald.

Many supposedly astute hockey observers in Cincinnati discounted DD's ability to make it in the AHL, let alone ever see a game in the NHL. Very wrong they were.

DD is continuing to prove them wrong. 24 points in his last 27 games. He's +16 ES in the same period. He's only been on the ice for 9 ES goals in that entire period. That's a third of an NHL season and he's a team leader in ES ice time. The notion that he's awful defensively is a farce. He's responsible and getting better. In his last 27 games he's on pace for being on the ice for only 27 ES goals in an ENTIRE season. That's one every three games with first line ice time. No player who is weak defensively could ever boast that type of stretch. Compare that to most other Habs in this same stretch of games if one desires.

Another former Cyclone who will get his day in the sun in the NHL and shine will be former Hab property goalie Cedrick Desjardins. He's another who has received the Rodney Dangerfield treatment at every level and continues to disappoint his doubters.

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02-27-2012, 02:39 AM
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there's a reason why our team suck so much, specially on PP. We give too much time to that stupid dwarf on it. He is a good player but 3rd center at most on any GOOD team.

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02-27-2012, 03:10 AM
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there's a reason why our team suck so much, specially on PP. We give too much time to that stupid dwarf on it.
suuuuuuuuuure...

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02-27-2012, 03:17 AM
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I never posted in this thread, but if I had, I certainly would have been on the too small side of things. Glad to see the little guy prove me wrong.

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02-27-2012, 06:43 AM
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02-27-2012, 08:31 AM
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i was just thinking: "how come he has more haters/doubters now than he did when he was in the east coast league?"

and natey's posts are awesome to read. right on almost every count. major props!
No kidding. I thought he was too small, although I don't recall this thread. I was convinced after his first stint in montreal. The fact that many doubt him more after he destroyed both minor leagues and is actually producing in the NHL is baffling.

Granted, I'm not sure I would be at ease giving him long term first line role(see: Koivu, Saku) because he may not be able to consistently be this good.

However...the guy is clearly at least a 2nd line center this year. He's been near PPG for half the season! Give it a rest haters. He's right in the middle in regards to point production as his wingers[Cole(57 point pace) & pacioretty(60 point pace)].

Let's call it for what it is. The guy has been working his ass off for years to prove people he can be in the NHL. I like that. I like the fact he won't back down. It reminds me of another quiet-hard-working-dimunitive-playmaking center we had not long ago.

I'm not crazy, I know the importance of Eller and Plekanec to this team, but I also think it's important to realize DD IS the best playmaker on the team. Playmakers are guys who make others around them better. Something a former star playmking center in Gomez has failed to do.

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02-27-2012, 02:15 PM
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Much props to Desharnais for getting this far!

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02-27-2012, 02:41 PM
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imagine how good he'd be if he had his legs lengthened . . .

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02-27-2012, 05:22 PM
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Truly a great story!!! The majority his size never make it let alone a #1 center in NHL. Which he has been last 3 months.

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02-27-2012, 05:27 PM
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there's a reason why our team suck so much, specially on PP. We give too much time to that stupid dwarf on it. He is a good player but 3rd center at most on any GOOD team.
He's our best PP player...

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02-27-2012, 05:52 PM
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I never posted in this thread, but if I had, I certainly would have been on the too small side of things. Glad to see the little guy prove me wrong.
In other threads about DD I totally dismissed him and was also on the too small, not quick enough side if things . Happy to be wrong and I'm really impressed by DD!

As a side note : I miss mcphee!

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02-27-2012, 07:10 PM
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No such thing as too small.

If you are 5'1" but have Gretzky talent, you'll make it in the NHL. You might be overlooked, but hey, those teams will be kicking themselves when you come in.
definitely no such thing as too small
Fluery was also 5' 6".
St. Louis is 5' 6"

look at what they have accomplished.

though I can't imagine what sort of growth stagnant a guy would have to go through be end up 5'1"

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02-27-2012, 08:34 PM
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I was on the Desharnais train since I first saw him play with the Bulldogs. I knew he would make it one day.

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02-27-2012, 08:38 PM
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He's our best PP player...
No wonder our PP is second last...

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02-27-2012, 09:43 PM
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No wonder our PP is second last...
TB&Blackhawk's powerplays are 24 and 25th last. Therefore Stamkos, St-Louis, Toews and Kane are terrible powerplay players.

Did I get this right?

EDIT : Desharnais has more powerplay points than Phil Kessel, Jarome Iginla, Marian Hossa, Briere, Toews, Patrice Bergeron and others.

Haters gonna hate I guess.

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02-27-2012, 09:52 PM
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Wow, lots of great posters in here. Habs boards gone downhill.
My thoughts exactly. No one outright through him out the door, and the people who didn't believe in him figured he had at least an outside chance.

Make that thread nowadays, and posters would be begging for it to be closed or some stupid thing.

Also, can't believe he's 25pts in 26 games. That's crazy.

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02-27-2012, 09:54 PM
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My thoughts exactly. No one outright through him out the door, and the people who didn't believe in him figured he had at least an outside chance.

Make that thread nowadays, and posters would be begging for it to be closed or some stupid thing.

Also, can't believe he's 25pts in 26 games. That's crazy.
Oh, I didn't even read what was written, I just read the names.

Then again, by reading the names, I could assume the content was much better.

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02-27-2012, 11:53 PM
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Just out of curiosity, question for all you Desharnais conaisseurs:

Was Desharnais ever a top line center on a championship team at any significant level?

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02-28-2012, 12:02 AM
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Just out of curiosity, question for all you Desharnais conaisseurs:

Was Desharnais ever a top line center on a championship team at any significant level?
Cyclones won the championship the year this thread was made.

He had 33-points in 22 playoff games. Next closest player was Olivier Latendresse with 19 points.

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The Montreal Canadiens saw enough potential in Desharnais to invite him to their
training camp in the fall of 2007. Although he did not make the team, he earned an
assignment to the Cincinnati Cyclones of the East Coast Hockey League (ECHL). He had a phenomenal professional debut in Cincinnati, putting up 106 points in
only 68 regular season games to lead the league in scoring before adding 33
points in 22 playoff games to lead the Cyclones to their first Kelly Cup championship. Desharnais was named ECHL Rookie of the Year and Most
Valuable Player and was named to both the All-Rookie Team and the First All-Star
Team.


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02-28-2012, 12:06 AM
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Cyclones won the championship the year this thread was made.

He had 33-points in 22 playoff games.
Did you have to log out from your Habaneros account to post this?

I kid, I kid

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02-28-2012, 12:09 AM
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Did you have to log out from your Habaneros account to post this?

I kid, I kid
Did you not see who made this thread

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02-28-2012, 02:23 AM
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Cyclones won the championship the year this thread was made.

He had 33-points in 22 playoff games. Next closest player was Olivier Latendresse with 19 points.

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He deserved to share Kelly Cup MVP honors that year with Cedrick Desjardins.

When the Cyclones were down 3 games to 2 in the second round (out of 4) that year, DD was magnificent. He scored 3 goals in those 2 pivotal games. In the final round he had 5 assists in games 5 and 6 (the clincher).

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02-28-2012, 02:33 AM
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as he with the dogs when they won the memorial cup or was that before him?

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