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Trade: Sharks acquire Winnik, Galiardi, 7th for McGinn, Connolly, Sgarbossa

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02-27-2012, 02:22 PM
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what a ridiculous move , we are going to regret letting McGinn go......

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02-27-2012, 02:23 PM
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Uh... I'm a huge McGinn fan but you have to be a bit delusional not to think this trade is worth it

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02-27-2012, 02:23 PM
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So, when everyone is fully healthy this season, this is our team going forward?

Marleau-Thornton-Pavs
Clowe-Couture-Havlat
Winnick-Moore-Galiardi
Winchester-Desjardins-Wingels/Mitchell/Ferriero
Zeus

Vlasic-Boyle
Demers-Burns
Murray-Braun
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02-27-2012, 02:24 PM
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to bigwillie, no that is not what happened. Please let me know when Winnik and Galiardi hit as much and as hard as McGinn does. The Sharks just traded their one overly physical player. This team should just strike up a sponsorship with Tampax because it would be very effective advertising.
..or Stay Puft Marshmallows

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02-27-2012, 02:25 PM
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lawl, we have 3 physical players.

ones hurt
ones in a slump
lets trade the other one!!!

sharks seems like a to tough name for this bunch of sissies. san jose dolphins? san jose daisies? san jose flowers? those names fit us better

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02-27-2012, 02:28 PM
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Really sad to see Ginner go. Really hope these new guys can help us out in the hitting and toughness area. With Murray out and now with Jamie gone, I feel like out team is a bunch of pansies.

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02-27-2012, 02:29 PM
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http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/...-and-galiardi/

Pollak blog on trade

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02-27-2012, 02:30 PM
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This is not a terrible deal guys...

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02-27-2012, 02:31 PM
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Party people in the hooooooooouse toniiiiiight. He'll have fun with Couture.

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02-27-2012, 02:32 PM
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So, this team has all their picks through rounds 1-6 and 3 7th's?

Not bad.

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02-27-2012, 02:32 PM
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brodiebrazilCSN 12:29pm via TweetDeck Murray on Winnik/Galiardi: "two guys you get irritated playing against... and that's a compliment." #sjsharks #avs

fearthefin 12:28pm via SB Nation Jamie McGinn: #NeverForget sbn.to/xaaOnh


markedwinemmons 12:27pm via Web More Murray on the trade: "Hopefully this will kick-start us to get out of the funk.


TJGaliardi 12:26pm via Echofon Crazy day... Going to miss so many people in Denver but couldn't be more excited about going to San Jose with @Danwinnik34


markedwinemmons 12:25pm via Web Douglas Murray on Winnik and Galiardi: "It's two guys who you definitely get irritated playing against . . . and that's a compliment."


JamesLivy 12:25pm via Twitter for iPhone Sad to see a great guy like #mikeconnolly get moved today... The guy will do big things! Good luck pal we'll miss ya!


brodiebrazilCSN 12:24pm via TweetDeck McGinn to Remenda: "I've always thought of San Jose as home, I appreciate what everyone has done for me here" #sjsharks


markedwinemmons 12:23pm via Web Douglas Murray on McGinn: "Jamie deserves a lot of credit. He's played great this year. He's going to be missed."

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02-27-2012, 02:33 PM
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Galiardi says he and Winnik found out at the exact same moment they were traded together, about to get lunch together. #sjsharks

Break up one bromance, bring in another!

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02-27-2012, 02:35 PM
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Does Galiardi do PK too? If so, this could be a major help. Once fully healthy, we'd have more PK'ers, which means less PK time for top 6 guys (especially Thornton and Marleau). Keeping those guys off the PK is a good thing, keeps them fresher for 5 on 5/PP.

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02-27-2012, 02:37 PM
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I don't know how i feel about this

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I think Galiardi does PK

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02-27-2012, 02:40 PM
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What we need: defense
What we have too much of: 3rd liners
Our best 3rd liner: McGinn
Our prospect ranking: dead last

What is the logic in sending our best 3rd liner and one of our most promising prospects for two 3rd liners?!

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02-27-2012, 02:42 PM
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Man, I couldn't break this trade early.

Ambivalent about the trade. Winnik is a damn-fine player...exceptional PKer. However, he is a pending UFA.

Galiardi was a middling player on a worse team. Don't know what he can contribute here. He is very similar to Mcginn in his value; he's more "skilled" and is a great agitator, but Mcginn is much more punishing physically.

That is a prime concern. A third-line of Winnik-Moore-Galiardi is tough, skilled, adamantine in puck pursuit, and agitating, but it lacks finishing ability and physicality. Mcginn would have been good on that line. Though, Galiardi in particular does have the skills to be a second-line forward....we shall see.

I appreciate the overall sentiment regarding prospects. Sgarbossa, value-wise, had to be behind Nieto, Hamilton, Viedensky, etc. It is much more likely he is the next Ferriero than the next Setoguchi. But it always stings to give up some a prolific scorer (#2 in the OHL). Connolly has put up points, but he was never going to crack the top-6 and wasn't right for the bottom-six. He's very similar to Ferriero, except he's even smaller.

Nothing will stop the hircine depictions of DW for this, but ultimatley the success of these trades bears on SJ winning a cup this Spring, or DW resigning Winnik and Moore.

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02-27-2012, 02:43 PM
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lawl, we have 3 physical players.

ones hurt
ones in a slump
lets trade the other one!!!

sharks seems like a to tough name for this bunch of sissies. san jose dolphins? san jose daisies? san jose flowers? those names fit us better
"lawl" why couldn't the other team just ask for one of our hurt, slumping, soft players?!

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02-27-2012, 02:43 PM
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Galiardi says he and Winnik found out at the exact same moment they were traded together, about to get lunch together. #sjsharks

Break up one bromance, bring in another!
Poor Couture.

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02-27-2012, 02:43 PM
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markedwinemmons 12:35pm via Web More Galiardi: "I'm just real happy to have a fresh start."


markedwinemmons 12:35pm via Web Galiardi on coming to the Sharks: "My first impression is elation."
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brodiebrazilCSN 12:35pm via TweetDeck Galiardi: "I know what kind of player I am, and I know what i need to bring to the lineup" #sjsharks
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brodiebrazilCSN 12:34pm via TweetDeck Galiardi on D.Murray: "i didn't like that guy either... it's water under the bridge now" #sjsharks
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fearthefin 12:33pm via Web Looking forward to @Danwinnik34 and @TJGaliardi joining the club. Best of luck during the playoff push boys and welcome to San Jose.
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brodiebrazilCSN 12:33pm via TweetDeck Galiardi says he and Winnik found out at the exact same moment they were traded together, about to get lunch together. #sjsharks


brodiebrazilCSN 12:30pm via TweetDeck TJ Galiardi: "My first impression was elation, things have been tough for me here this season" #sjsharks
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markedwinemmons 12:29pm via Web Last from Murray: "We're gonna miss Ginner."

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02-27-2012, 02:45 PM
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Uh... I'm a huge McGinn fan but you have to be a bit delusional not to think this trade is worth it
Thank goodness I'm not the only one. I've liked Winnik since PHO and Galardi seems to have a good deal of O upside. We loose some toughness and a great up-and-coming home grown talent but there is MUCH over reaction here.

Plus, Jamie was likely to get a noteworthy raise.

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brodiebrazilCSN 12:44pm via TweetDeck Winnik: "when they've got you at number 4 on NHL Network as trade bait, it's not very surprising to be moved" #sjsharks

brodiebrazilCSN 12:43pm via TweetDeck Winnik has fought Ryane Clowe twice in his career: "there's no hard feelings on my end" #sjsharks


brodiebrazilCSN 12:42pm via TweetDeck Winnik: Says he's a defense-first minded player, emphasizes on the PK. #sjsharks


brodiebrazilCSN 12:42pm via TweetDeck Daniel Winnik: says he found out of his trade via Twitter, then got a heads up call from his agent. First call: to dad. #sjsharks

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I feel this trade may bite us one day. The Pirate is gone! Ginners is gone! and 210 is going to rage on us for taking a forward from the AHL in which we already are short on!

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Brodie Brazil ‏ @brodiebrazilCSN Close
Daniel Winnik: says he found out of his trade via Twitter, then got a heads up call from his agent. First call: to dad. #sjsharks

Brodie Brazil ‏ @brodiebrazilCSN Close
Winnik: Says he's a defense-first minded player, emphasizes on the PK. #sjsharks

Brodie Brazil ‏ @brodiebrazilCSN Close
Winnik has fought Ryane Clowe twice in his career: "there's no hard feelings on my end" #sjsharks

Brodie Brazil ‏ @brodiebrazilCSN Close
Winnik: "when they've got you at number 4 on NHL Network as trade bait, it's not very surprising to be moved" #sjsharks

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This is a decent deal. I loved McGinn, but the "fire DW" corps is delusional.

How is:

Winnik - Moore - Galiardi
Winchester - Handzus - Desjardins

with Mitchell, Wingels and Ferriero as spares worse than:

Moore - Handzus - McGinn
Winchester - Desjardins - Mitchell?

This move gives us a very deep bottom 6, a forth line that will play much more than 4 mins/game in the playoffs therefore saving energy/injury for the big guys, bumps Handzus down to the forth line, etc, etc.

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