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PA Parenteau, give me your best and final offer...
well that would explain why he didnt go anywhere.
(and a i guess it would appear the isles do think highly of him if that's the kind of package they were hoping for)
well, I guess signing him at the end of the year would end up being the best scenario...
But I got a bad feeling some random team is going to offer him like 5.5M per year for 3 years and he's going to go grab that money....
If he makes it to UFA, he's as good as gone. I expect the NYI will sign him before July 1st, especially if he finishes the final 20 games remotely close to how he's played in the first 60.
But there's a price.
And for the UFA price that Parenteau will get, I'd gladly walk away from that kind of POTENTIAL money and term.
The press tells us that Parenteau was willing to sign an extension ,but his rep and Snow were not close to reaching an agreement.The contracts that Ruutu and Hemsky got, didn't help Snow at the bargaining table.
I expect some team will give him an outragious contract in July.It won't be the isles,with their internal budget.
This is not the 1st trade deadline,that Snow has set a price for players and refused to budge:Satan,Fedetenko,Knopka(sp) and now Parenteau.Isles fans argue about whether it's stupid to be inflexible in these trade talks or if it let's other gms know Snow won't blink.
Last edited by Sh0otnSc0re: 02-27-2012 at 04:58 PM.
I agree that maybe he's cashing in from playing on a line with Tavares and Moulson...but then again I don't watch the Isles. My value could be way off, but I think a decent D prospect and a 2nd or 3rd would suffice.
Well, the only trade value that Parenteau has now is a 4th round pick for exclusive negotiating rights leading up to July 1st.
I hope he re-signs, but I think he's probably priced himself off the Island. We will just have to see how this all plays out, but I am happy for the guy that he's going to see the dollar signs. Strikes me as a good guy and his road to NHL success is a nice story.
I agree that maybe he's cashing in from playing on a line with Tavares and Moulson...but then again I don't watch the Isles. My value could be way off, but I think a decent D prospect and a 2nd or 3rd would suffice.
As for a contract, I'd give him 3 mil/yr tops.
I'm really not trying to be disrespectful, but you're basically stating that you are giving an uninformed opinion, or in other words, you don't know. If you don't know, then your proposed value in a trade doesn't really matter.
In terms of your contract, some twitter reports yesterday from Chris Botta stated that Garth Snow was angling for a "home-town" discount, as the GM was leaning on PA's sense of loyalty. PA makes 1.6 million this year, and is likely going to hit the 70 pt plateau after scoring 50-55 points last year. For most of the last 1.5 to 2 months he hasn't been on a line with Tavares or Moulson, and has been feisty and a top point producer. He's going to get more than 3 million per year if there are limited offensive options on the open market, especially because he can produce on the power play and has become better in his own end.
If Snow was offered Mark Stone and Ottawa's first round pick for Parenteau he should have taken it. Stone is a very good prospect and that first round pick should be around #17. Snow is an absolute fool for not taking that.
If Snow was offered Mark Stone and Ottawa's first round pick for Parenteau he should have taken it. Stone is a very good prospect and that first round pick should be around #17. Snow is an absolute fool for not taking that.
no he OFFERED Parenteau up to Ottawa for Stone + a 1st...
If Snow was offered Mark Stone and Ottawa's first round pick for Parenteau he should have taken it. Stone is a very good prospect and that first round pick should be around #17. Snow is an absolute fool for not taking that.
The OP said Ottawa was offered that package, not that they offered it to NYI.
If Snow was offered Mark Stone and Ottawa's first round pick for Parenteau he should have taken it. Stone is a very good prospect and that first round pick should be around #17. Snow is an absolute fool for not taking that.
Sorry, I disagree. Snow was right not to take it if in fact that was offered, and Im not going to say it was. A Tweet unless its from TSN does not rank too high on my list of good inside info.
PA is putting up huge points. I am not suggesting he is elite. Far from it. But when I see NHL fans and posters here going ga-ga over players like Derek Roy, asking for 1st round picks, a top player AND top prospect, but want to have us believe that PA is worth maybe a second and fourth round pick, or a second and a mid tier prospect....
Do these people look at the stat sheet?
Last season was PA's first real season in the NHL and he scored 53 points.
This season he has eclipsed that and is on pace for 75 points.
AND PLEASE.... lets not go with the whole "but he plays with Tavares" nonsense. If I put a good player on a line with a good player both players are going to produce.... which means PA still has to have the ability to be in position, or to make the passes regardless if Tavares or Tootsie is on his line.
He is 20th in the NHL in scoring. The numbers suggest he is getting better, not slipping, and not a 1-year deal. Like Matt Moulson — another Islander players that I suppose is only worth a 3rd rd pick.
Facts are a funny thing...
Snow was 100% correct to ask for a 1st round pick and a top prospect — and Stone is not a top prospect. If Ottawa offered their 1st and Patrick Wiercioch or if they want to retain their first rounder perhaps Jared Cowen and a 3rd we could have the beginnings of a chat.
PA is an impact player and he wants to remain with the Isles. There has to be a player coming back that could have or already does have an impact to address a team need — otherwise, what is the point of making a trade?
Sorry, I disagree. Snow was right not to take it if in fact that was offered, and Im not going to say it was. A Tweet unless its from TSN does not rank too high on my list of good inside info.
PA is putting up huge points. I am not suggesting he is elite. Far from it. But when I see NHL fans and posters here going ga-ga over players like Derek Roy, asking for 1st round picks, a top player AND top prospect, but want to have us believe that PA is worth maybe a second and fourth round pick, or a second and a mid tier prospect....
Do these people look at the stat sheet?
Last season was PA's first real season in the NHL and he scored 53 points.
This season he has eclipsed that and is on pace for 75 points.
AND PLEASE.... lets not go with the whole "but he plays with Tavares" nonsense. If I put a good player on a line with a good player both players are going to produce.... which means PA still has to have the ability to be in position, or to make the passes regardless if Tavares or Tootsie is on his line.
He is 20th in the NHL in scoring. The numbers suggest he is getting better, not slipping, and not a 1-year deal. Like Matt Moulson — another Islander players that I suppose is only worth a 3rd rd pick.
Facts are a funny thing...
Snow was 100% correct to ask for a 1st round pick and a top prospect — and Stone is not a top prospect. If Ottawa offered their 1st and Patrick Wiercioch or if they want to retain their first rounder perhaps Jared Cowen and a 3rd we could have the beginnings of a chat.
PA is an impact player and he wants to remain with the Isles. There has to be a player coming back that could have or already does have an impact to address a team need — otherwise, what is the point of making a trade?
Sorry, I disagree. Snow was right not to take it if in fact that was offered, and Im not going to say it was. A Tweet unless its from TSN does not rank too high on my list of good inside info.
PA is putting up huge points. I am not suggesting he is elite. Far from it. But when I see NHL fans and posters here going ga-ga over players like Derek Roy, asking for 1st round picks, a top player AND top prospect, but want to have us believe that PA is worth maybe a second and fourth round pick, or a second and a mid tier prospect....
Do these people look at the stat sheet?
Last season was PA's first real season in the NHL and he scored 53 points.
This season he has eclipsed that and is on pace for 75 points.
AND PLEASE.... lets not go with the whole "but he plays with Tavares" nonsense. If I put a good player on a line with a good player both players are going to produce.... which means PA still has to have the ability to be in position, or to make the passes regardless if Tavares or Tootsie is on his line.
He is 20th in the NHL in scoring. The numbers suggest he is getting better, not slipping, and not a 1-year deal. Like Matt Moulson — another Islander players that I suppose is only worth a 3rd rd pick.
Facts are a funny thing...
Snow was 100% correct to ask for a 1st round pick and a top prospect — and Stone is not a top prospect. If Ottawa offered their 1st and Patrick Wiercioch or if they want to retain their first rounder perhaps Jared Cowen and a 3rd we could have the beginnings of a chat.
PA is an impact player and he wants to remain with the Isles. There has to be a player coming back that could have or already does have an impact to address a team need — otherwise, what is the point of making a trade?
I disagree with you, i feel Stone is a top prospect, definitely has top 6 potential IMO. PA is a good player, and really isn't a product of JT this year, whereas last year he was a product of JT. He has elite vision.
If we end up losing him for nothing in free agency it would have been a huge mistake. I just can't see him taking a deal that is worth less than 15 million, and I am not sure Snow/Wang are willing to pay him that money.
