Serves you right, Tubby, for naming your thread as you did so that no one knows what the heck you're talking about until it's clicked on . Albi did it right (3 cheers for Albi). Editorial should be kept out of the subject lines, which should be short and descriptive. It's hard to find threads or know what their subjects are with some of the subject lines around here. That's my 2-cent rant (to be taken seriously, but not too seriously).