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02-28-2012, 12:21 AM
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Not playing simple enough, doesnt have a playmaking first winger

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02-28-2012, 12:59 AM
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Some people on other forums believe that the best thing to do would be to trade kopitar to get draft picks or prospects. I say BS. We all know what would happen to him if he were to leave the kings. He would easily be an 80 pt player and be one of the games best defensive forward.

look at moulson or purcell. as soon as they leave the kings, they are both 30 goal scorers. why is that? Because as soon as they left to some other system, they reached their full potential. I believe that kopitar has not reached his full potential, because of this system. He would easily be a consistent goal scorer if he wasn't handcuffed to this joke of a system.

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02-28-2012, 01:11 AM
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Draft picks or prospects? Oh lawd.

Kopi is still young. I created this thread because I don't know what the answer is, but I'm hoping it's out there somewhere. Can he be coached back to his former self/potential?

I think, especially in light of Sam's post, it's very clear that the front offices need to be cleaned out. Our roster is just too good for this to be happening.

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02-28-2012, 01:24 AM
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He needs a player as creative as he is with the puck to play with him.

Lombardi has a hard-on for "hard nosed" Canadian players, which is all fine and good, but every now and then you need that fancy pants Euro-winger that can stick handle in a phone booth.

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He needs to get off the walls more often.

Get him one of these trainers.




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Ah, the good ol days.


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02-28-2012, 01:38 AM
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we beat that flamboyant *h1t out of him in only 4 seasons
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02-28-2012, 01:52 AM
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I absolutely believe it is coaching. He's had defense-first, dot-to-boards, and low-to-high drilled into his head for too many years now. He doesn't want to take risks that may lead to turnovers and doesn't try to force his way to the net. Just watch when he does carry the puck into the zone down the middle, instead of trying to stickhandle or force his way through guys, as say Malkin would, he takes a shot that is designed to kick out a rebound he can go dig out of the corner and start cycling or just goes off to the side.

Trading Kopitar is ridiculous notion.

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02-28-2012, 02:27 AM
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Long story short, Kopitar has has been offensively castrated. Over thinking, too much defense, taking everything to the outside, all these are true and examples of what this archaic system has done to him. Not every forward on your team needs to be a Selke candidate.

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02-28-2012, 03:33 AM
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when did the Morrow hit happen? I think that's your answer

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02-28-2012, 04:30 AM
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I think all this grinding playoff style hockey has worn him down to a nub! Who ever heard of playing playoff style hockey for 82 games +? It's like he's skating in slow motion with 500 pound gorilla on his back!

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02-28-2012, 05:22 AM
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I wrote pretty extensively on Kopitar's problems. In case you missed it...

Itís Time For LA Kings GM Dean Lombardi To Address His Teamís Futility

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02-28-2012, 06:22 AM
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I would also rather see what Anze can do outside of DL's laughably bad system, I am just throwing potential scenarios out there.

I thought for sure DL was gone if this team missed the playoffs, but I am not so sure after the Carter deal. Would AEG really let a potential lame-duck GM add that much salary two months before he would be fired.

I think TL may have drank to much kool-aid or bought Dean's snake oil enough to keep Dean another year.

That or AEG may be to cheap to fire him with a year left, although it is harder to call AEG cheap when they pretty much gave Dean a blank check this season.
If that really happens I am over this pathetic franchise.

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02-28-2012, 06:26 AM
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Once a coach has the stones to move Kopitar to the wing then he will truly flourish. I am waiting for it to happen...He's never truly been a Proper #1 Centre. This is highlighted by his annual inconsistencies and droughts. He should be a winger with a play making centre accentuating his sniping ability and his puck possession abilities.


The guy is voted top 10 NHL center in every HF poll

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02-28-2012, 07:49 AM
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The guy is voted top 10 NHL center in every HF poll
what do they know...


What is wrong with Kopitar?
More or less I would say that the same thing that the entire Kings lineup.

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I would like to trade current Kopitar for that 19 y/o rookie Kopitar. Oh boy what have they done to you

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when did the Morrow hit happen? I think that's your answer
I'm thinking you might be right. A similar thing happened one or two years ago when Kopitar was one of the top forwards in the league scoring wise until he got run over by Orpik and went missing after that.

Usually Kopitar bounces back after 20 games or so but he's already disappeared for 20 games this season and it looks like there's another 20 game slump in progress.

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Is it just me or does he appear to be exhausted most of the time he's playing hockey? And like others have said-once Kopitar enters the offensive zone he skates towards the boards as though he were wearing John Zeiler's skates. I've never seen a center play less in the middle of the ice than Kopitar.

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02-28-2012, 09:02 AM
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It's the economy, stupid.

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Just noticed this with AK career stats:

2006-07 = 72 gp 20 g - 7 ppg = 13 g
2007-08 = 82 gp 32 g - 12 ppg = 20 g
2008-09 = 82 gp 27 g - 7 ppg = 20 g
2009-10 = 82 gp 34 g - 14 ppg = 20 g
2010-12 = 75 gp 25 g - 6 ppg = 19 g
2011-12 = 81 gp 22 g - 9 ppg = 13 g (projected)

Maybe it's just the power play?
(7+7+6+9)/4 = 7 ave (20+ goal seasons)
(12+14)/2 = 13 ave (30+ goal seasons)

13-7 = 6 ave increase, therefore add to each 20+ goal season

Goal totals become = 26 - 32 - 33 - 34 - 31 - 28

Interesting? Maybe doesn't really mean anything?

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we beat that flamboyant *h1t out of him in only 4 seasons
LOL.

So sad, but so true. And yes, I think it's partially due to the systematic brainwashing and partially due to fear from to the big hits and injuries.

He still ices his injured leg after every game, IIRC, too--wonder if the skating is an issue as well?

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02-28-2012, 10:03 AM
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Is it just me or does he appear to be exhausted most of the time he's playing hockey? And like others have said-once Kopitar enters the offensive zone he skates towards the boards as though he were wearing John Zeiler's skates. I've never seen a center play less in the middle of the ice than Kopitar.
This is his biggest problem. He refuses to impose his will in the offensive zone, instead he always takes what the defense gives him. News flash Kopi: the defense will ALWAYS give you the boards, let you skate BEHIND the net and then give you your weak ass pass back to the point.

Anyone that thinks that is "the system" the Kings want to play is out of their cotton picking mind.


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02-28-2012, 05:12 PM
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He still ices his injured leg after every game, IIRC, too--wonder if the skating is an issue as well?
Really? I wasn't aware of this. Still icing it a year later? Ouch..

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02-28-2012, 05:19 PM
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Really? I wasn't aware of this. Still icing it a year later? Ouch..
You can see it near the end of the Mike Richards NHL 36 video.

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He has still been playing considerably better than Richards. Not just today, but also in games after he was called out by Sutter. I wish he was traded just so that he is not the one and only scapegoat of 5 guys around here. Who will be the next victim of not "imposing his will" after he is traded?

What is Kopitar's excuse? I don't have a clue. As for ice on his leg, it is completely normal and it was said so even last summer - that he would need to ice his leg for 9-12 months, because it gets swollen during games. As I said, it is completely normal consequence of his injury and it will disappear very soon.

What excuse Richards has? Even more clueless I am afraid.

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