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02-28-2012, 07:03 PM
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THIS STUFF IS MAKING ME SICK!

Whether it is the Leafs, or what the original poster has posted, IT ALL MAKES ME SICK!

WHY HAVE WE GONE SOFT?

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If you want safety, keep fighing in, or prepare for the cheapshots.

If a guy doesn't want to fight, he rarely has to. Lots of guys go 4 years without a single fight.

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02-28-2012, 07:18 PM
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It's kinda strange, in Sweden there are many hockey experts etc lobbying for a 5 minute major for fighting only. As of now, it's at least a game misconduct, more often than not it's a match penalty with further suspensions.

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02-28-2012, 07:18 PM
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I blame this whole stop fighting thing on the European player.
Please, tell me how I'm wrong.

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02-28-2012, 07:19 PM
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Most junior teams usually have 1-2 good fighters, they keep the fans coming to the games even when the team sucks. I can't imagine not being able to see those guys, junior fights are often a lot better than ones in the NHL.

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02-28-2012, 07:21 PM
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Would definitely boycott Blades games if this occurred. Banning fights will not increase attendance, but it could hurt it. Dumb decision if it happens.

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02-28-2012, 07:21 PM
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I'm fine with it there are people who will complain but this is the way the sport is headed and has been for a while now.

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02-28-2012, 07:26 PM
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While I hate the references to things like socialist Canada (... you're from Quebec, aren't you?), it is indeed a move that could really be negative for quite a few major junior teams. If this happens, expect way more players drafted out of the Junior A Leagues -- if those leagues recognize that they'd be missing a very good opportunity if decide to bad fights.

But staged fights? I really couldn't care less.
I made the link to socialism because Canada is a country where the goverment controls everything, "Hockey Canada" being part of this.

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02-28-2012, 07:26 PM
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Traumatic brain injuries in exchange for some pocket change and some money for college? I don't see the need for it. When you're talking about 16-19 kids, it's not worth the risk.

If there's a real need to fight, I'm sure players will drop the gloves even if it means a suspension. But there's no need for kids risking lifelong brain injuries to entertain bored fans.

It's junior hockey. Player safety should be the priority, not ticket sales.

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02-28-2012, 07:28 PM
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It won't get banned that is just political lobbying by David Branch. Guy needs to worry less about what morons in Toronto think and worry about things that matter like what really is causing concussions

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02-28-2012, 07:29 PM
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There was a time during the dead puck era when the OHL game was at least as entertaining as the NHL game. This was a time when you could jump on a guy's back and there wasn't a holding penalty. Not so now. Since 2005 when the OHL sanitized their game it has become unwatchable. Its a shame too, because this is where the players hone their skills for the NHL. The junior players are going to be hit like a shovel when they hit the NHL and a 6'4" defenseman goes up against them.

Branch is without a doubt the worst thing to happen to hockey since Alan Eagleson. Why he gets so much power is beyond me. This is a guy who has had a hidden agenda from day one to remove fighting. Well, it isn't hidden, the guy has said so in interviews. If you think these little rodents that run around the ice knowing that no one will touch them with the instigator penalty then imagine how the Maxim Lapierre's of the OHL will react when there is no fighting at all. Big mistake if they do it, and they won't because there is no way the owners will let it happen.

Bob Nicholson, what a sell out too. He says on behalf of "Canadian Hockey" we want to end fighting. Uh, Bob........do you think if the junior team you picked this year was a little more masculine that we would have been clobbered by the Russians in our own barn?

Get these clowns out of here. Their opinions alone ruin the game
Nicholson has pretty much showed his cards not too long ago when he said the futur for hockey in Canada was with the women playing hockey. That's the great thinker that runs Hockey Canada right now.

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02-28-2012, 07:31 PM
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Traumatic brain injuries in exchange for some pocket change and some money for college? I don't see the need for it. When you're talking about 16-19 kids, it's not worth the risk.

If there's a real need to fight, I'm sure players will drop the gloves even if it means a suspension. But there's no need for kids risking lifelong brain injuries to entertain bored fans.

It's junior hockey. Player safety should be the priority, not ticket sales.
Please tell me who has brain trauma??
This isn't boxing ffs, half the fights we see today are just take downs, so calm down

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02-28-2012, 07:33 PM
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Staged fights rarely happen anymore, I'm not sure why this is even an issue. Most fighting is 'part of the game'. Agree or disagree, I'd rather have people fight after clean hits than have a Worrell/Oliwa bout disrupt the flow of the game.

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02-28-2012, 08:02 PM
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Please tell me who has brain trauma??
This isn't boxing ffs, half the fights we see today are just take downs, so calm down
These kinds of takedowns are far more risky than boxing:


I have a bigger problem with take-downs, since there's far bigger of a risk of injury if a player's head hits the ice than a player gets hits with a fist.

It's not a leading cause of concussions, it's just a stupid reason for concussions. Or someone's going to end up breaking their neck trying to MMA style take-downs on the ice.

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02-28-2012, 08:05 PM
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Hopefully; hockey fights are bad displays of skill anywa and like 2% of them are decent. You want fighting, watch MMA and Boxing who actually are good at it.

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02-28-2012, 08:09 PM
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Sad state of affairs. Hockey is slowly getting castrated. It won't be long till fighting is no more and hitting won't be far behind. Makes me sick.

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02-28-2012, 08:13 PM
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These kinds of takedowns are far more risky than boxing
I don't see it, the guy went for a punch, seemed more to topple.
How come no one ever says lets take punching out of MMA?

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I don't see it, the guy went for a punch, seemed more to topple.
How come no one ever says lets take punching out of MMA?
Because MMA is a sport based on fighting hockey, contrary to some peoples idea, isn't.

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If you want safety, keep fighing in, or prepare for the cheapshots.

If a guy doesn't want to fight, he rarely has to. Lots of guys go 4 years without a single fight.
One would expect the NCAA to be rampant with cheap shots then. It's not. And it's not like these players are coming from a culture that condemns fighting--they are mostly North American coming from the USHL or Canadian Jr. A.

This theory has been empirically proved to be false.

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02-28-2012, 08:16 PM
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Really no good reason for kids to be fighting. I'd be for a ban on it, depending on the punishment.

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02-28-2012, 08:18 PM
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I think banning it outright might be too much. Try making it a game misconduct first and see how it goes.

But I think we'll eventually see fighting being gradually phased out of hockey. Who knows. I like the fact that players have the ability to settle their differences on the ice but with more emphasis on safety and cleaner play... we'll see.

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02-28-2012, 08:21 PM
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In the BCHL you can have five fights. Your 6th fight is a 1 game suspension, 7th is two games, 8 is four games and your 9th fight is a 8 game suspension or review by the league to end your season.

If you instigate your first instigator is a 1 game suspension, your 2nd instigator is a 2 game suspension, your third instigator is a 4 game suspension and your fourth instigator penalty is 8 games and review by the league to end your season.

They still have lots of fight out of heat of the moment stuff where people want to kill each other but the staged fighting is gone. If the NHL or CHL adopted this rule or a variation it would save the game.

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02-28-2012, 08:29 PM
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As long as the NHL doesn't outlaw it.

Lack of respect and care leading to more dirty hits -> eliminate the only way to teach someone to watch it/cut it out -> players are now safer!!!!

???

On a slightly different note, getting rid of goons would be a blessing now. No more no-talent goons complaining about fighting instead of wondering "Why do I deserve to be in the NHL?"

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Fighting has always been a part of hockey. People comparing it to other major sports are forgetting this.
You can't take take away part of the game and still call it ice hockey.
Next take out hitting and chirping? Just call it flat ball skating...

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