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01-30-2006, 01:05 PM
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Is it me, or Carolina overpayed like crazy....
Kahnberg is an unsigned draft pick. If left unsigned, he goes back into the draft. Two of the draft picks are assets acquired in other trades, but Carolina giving up it's own first round pick (even if it ends up being the 30th pick or thereabouts) is somewhat hefty. Boulerice is a marginal tough guy going to a team with a lot of marginal tough guys. Zigomanis has been a career minorleaguer. Not sure if he'll get a shot with the Blues or not. On the surface it's a lot, but aside from the first rounder, it's a lot of marginal things and not one big ticket item.

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Habs now meet the new Canes, 2 times until the end of season.
Big loser is Tampa, still to meet the canes 4 times.
The Habs might need a playoff spot and Tampa might lose all 4 games to the Canes.

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Good job Bluesy for 1 reason: More chances to pick #1 in the upcoming draft....On top of every players and every picks, Doug Weight was traded for Éric Johnson or Phil Kessel....

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Good job Bluesy for 1 reason: More chances to pick #1 in the upcoming draft....On top of every players and every picks, Doug Weight was traded for Éric Johnson or Phil Kessel....
Huh? Carolinas first rounder will probably be 25-30. They have no chance at #1 with that pick.

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Huh? Carolinas first rounder will probably be 25-30. They have no chance at #1 with that pick.
I think he means trading Weight signals that St. Louis is going to tank really hard to make sure they get a top #2 pick.

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Huh? Carolinas first rounder will probably be 25-30. They have no chance at #1 with that pick.
I'm not talking about that pick, by trading their regular players, they make sure they will suck so much they'll finish last, so they will pick 1st......PLUS they'll have these others picks and players...

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Look at the Canes schedule .. they just secured the 1st seed in the East . ( Sorry Sens fans )

That also suck that we have to face them tomorrow . Hopefully all these changes mess up their chemistry on the PP

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Look at the Canes schedule .. they just secured the 1st seed in the East . ( Sorry Sens fans )

That also suck that we have to face them tomorrow . Hopefully all these changes mess up their chemistry on the PP
If we could somehow squeeze into the 8th spot, I'd be one happy camper to face Carolina.

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If we could somehow squeeze into the 8th spot, I'd be one happy camper to face Carolina.

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That's an odd thing to say. They have beaten us easily the last two times we played them.

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From Spector;

http://spectorshockey.tripod.com/spe...e_rumours.html


THE CAROLINA HURRICANES HAVE ACQUIRED CENTRE DOUG WEIGHT AND MINOR LEAGUER ERKKI RAJAMAKI FROM THE ST. LOUIS BLUES IN EXCHANGE FOR


Carolina's first-round pick in 2006.
- Toronto's fourth-round pick in 2006, previously acquired by the Hurricanes.
- Chicago's fourth-round pick in 2007, previously acquired by the Hurricanes.
- Tough guy forward Jesse Boulerice, a 27-year-old eighth-year pro
- Forward Mike Zigomanis, a 25-year-old fifth-year pro
- Magnus Kahnberg, 25, an unsigned Carolina draftee from Sweden who will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.


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01-30-2006, 02:11 PM
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From Spector;

http://spectorshockey.tripod.com/spe...e_rumours.html


THE CAROLINA HURRICANES HAVE ACQUIRED CENTRE DOUG WEIGHT AND MINOR LEAGUER ERKKI RAJAMAKI FROM THE ST. LOUIS BLUES IN EXCHANGE FOR


Carolina's first-round pick in 2006.
- Toronto's fourth-round pick in 2006, previously acquired by the Hurricanes.
- Chicago's fourth-round pick in 2007, previously acquired by the Hurricanes.
- Tough guy forward Jesse Boulerice, a 27-year-old eighth-year pro
- Forward Mike Zigomanis, a 25-year-old fifth-year pro
- Magnus Kahnberg, 25, an unsigned Carolina draftee from Sweden who will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

A little late are we?

But TSN says both Weight and the Hurricanes view the situation as a mere rental, so it does seem like Carolina gave up a heck of a lot. I assume there was some pretty intense bidding going on.

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01-30-2006, 02:15 PM
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Way too much

'Canes paid way too much, can't believe how high the market was for this guy, I would have been mad like hell if Gainey paid this much for Weight!

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01-30-2006, 02:18 PM
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Great deal for the Canes, they lose nothing from their rosters, they give a very low first round pick(almost a 2nd round pick), they give two picks that arent theirs, a journeyman minor leaguer, a guy who wont even sign with them and a tough guy. Thats not mentionning the fact they could probably work out something to resign Douggie next year. They officially have the best centers in the league.

By the way, Weight has a no trade clause so he wasnt ever gonna come in Montreal. He wanted a cup contender, which he got.

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01-30-2006, 02:20 PM
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'Canes paid way too much, can't believe how high the market was for this guy, I would have been mad like hell if Gainey paid this much for Weight!
3 "no name", 2 fourth pick and the 29th pick overall isn't a lot for a first line center...

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3 "no name", 2 fourth pick and the 29th pick overall isn't a lot for a first line center...
Obviously it always comes to what it will turn out in the future. What about those no names becomes names (I like Zigomanis for the role he has to play), what if Weight does not play that well, Carolina doesn't go as far as expected and Weight doesn't resign??? Then it becomes overpayment.

For St-Louis though, if they knew that he would never sign in St-Louis, and they are not going anywhere this year, it probably addresses their needs, more picks, grit at forward, at least they got more then what we send to New York for Kovy....

For Carolina, you add a potential great player, another centerman, one of the best team at that position, and you don't give anyone in your core to acquire that guy....

Good trade for both teams....so far.

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'Canes paid way too much, can't believe how high the market was for this guy, I would have been mad like hell if Gainey paid this much for Weight!
This trade would pretty much amout to us sending Downey, Ribeiro, Milroy, 2 4th rounders that weren't ours anyway, and a low 1st. I would be pretty happy with that deal. Carolina only really loses a 1st rounder in the draft, they still have picks 2-7.

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01-30-2006, 02:33 PM
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the only thing of value the canes give up was the 1st round pick. boulerice, zigomanis, and kahnberg were never going to make any impact in carolina(if kahnberg even played). in the end it was weight for a 1st. not a bad trade if it gets them far into the playoffs

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01-30-2006, 02:34 PM
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This trade would pretty much amout to us sending Downey, Ribeiro, Milroy, 2 4th rounders that weren't ours anyway, and a low 1st. I would be pretty happy with that deal. Carolina only really loses a 1st rounder in the draft, they still have picks 2-7.
scratch Ribeiro and put in Vadim Tasarov.

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If the firesale continues in St-Louis, a guy like Keith Tkatchuk could fit well in MTL... Kovalev had a bad reputation before coming here too, and Tkachuk is a proven, consistent power forward... Seeing this is a firesale, perhaps Corey Locke and a pick would do?

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01-30-2006, 03:14 PM
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If the firesale continues in St-Louis, a guy like Keith Tkatchuk could fit well in MTL... Kovalev had a bad reputation before coming here too, and Tkachuk is a proven, consistent power forward... Seeing this is a firesale, perhaps Corey Locke and a pick would do?
We'd have to ship salary the other way because of Tkachuk's ridiculous deal. Bonk would probably have to be part of the deal, you wouldn't hear any complaints from me though.

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