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02-28-2012, 06:55 PM
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Mac is a 60pt winger; Kulemin is also, just slumping this year; and Grabo is Grabo. No doubt Schenn is worth more than a 1st unless you're talking about a lottery 1st. All could help out any Cup contending team. So yeah, Burke is telling the truth.
Kulemin has actually never had a 60 point season so far in his career. So I'm not sure it's fair to call him a 60 point winger. He's averaged roughly 35 - 40 points in his first four seasons in the league. He gets a lot of love on this board, and I will admit I like all the other intangibles that he brings to the team, but I think a few of you are overrating his value.

And I think that Gaustad was traded along with a 4th round pick for Nashville's first round pick.

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I would like to get some of the drugs you are on. Kadri has done NOTHING as an NHL player, and has struggled to even stay in the lineup. Yet here you are saying he's equal or (oh man) better able to contribute to the team than MacArthur? Really? I'll have some green eggs and ham along with the crazy. Kadri had about 4 or 5 good games as an NHL player so far in his pro career. This is just insanity.
I'm currently on Vitamin C and Oregano Oil. You're more than welcome to either.

Kadri's a very good prospect and player. I realize that some may not see that, but believe me on this one. The kid just needs to play.

He's had 18 points in 49 games, which isn't bad for a rookie. Seguin had 22 in 74 last year. Kadri is also a shootout specialist and draws a large number of penalties, and delivers hard hits. Mac does none of those things.

Looking at Mac's career numbers and observing his skill level, I think it's safe to say that the 60 point season was a fluke. The guy's a 45 point/season player - something that Kadri will easily accomplish if you give him Mac's linemates and 80 games.

Having said all that, as posters have pointed out, Mac is not a UFA this year...which means we may be able to trade him in the off-season, fortunately.

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Maybe it was 4 different teams offering their 1st rd pick for Grabovski, Burke didn't say it was for 4 different players.

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I would have taken the 4 first round picks and given Colborne and Kadri some NHL minutes.

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as per usual, some leaf fans on this board cant bring anything intelligent to a conversation.

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Burke stated yesterday that he received first round pick offers for Grabo, Kulemin, Schenn and a conditional one for MacArthur.


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Burke stated yesterday that he got received first round pick offers for Grabo, Kulemin, Schenn and a conditional one for MacArthur.
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02-28-2012, 08:23 PM
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Pretty sure he said it in his presser yesterday if not, one of the media outlets reported it.

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the fact that we were offered 4 first round picks for 3 2nd/3rd line players and Burke took none of them tells me he thinks none of the kids are ready otherwise he could have took one for say Mac, and let a Kadri or Frattin or whoever take his place. but he didn't which to me means none of the kids are ready right now.

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02-28-2012, 10:37 PM
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You take 1 sentence out of an entire rant. Yes we should have been focused on bottoming out for a few years just like every other team does when it is a crap team with no prospects, and a complete overhaul of the roster is needed. Even your savior Burke said 'a team is either rapidly climbing up the ladder or going down the ladder' we have been around 10th in the conference every year except the 2nd last place finish that we provided Boston with. This year will be no different and if Burke doesn't fill major holes on the d-line, goal crease and the entire 3rd line, half the second line and down the middle of the first line.

But ya your right top 3 picks wouldn't of helped us at all, giving out our picks and drafting around 10 is a better idea.
Well you're the one who called your own post a rant so I guess taking out one sentence woud be appropriate, like what difference does that make?

Intriquing. Every other team with a 'crap' team focuses on bottoming out and intentionally losing? Wow! Am I ever naive..........

I challenge you to find one post I have ever made whereby Burke is my "saviour" LOL - sorry but that is just out and out hilarious to me. I am a Preisst!! What in the heck do I need a saviour for????

Where did I ever say top 3 picks wouldn't have helped us? You are taking what is called the assumptive and might I point out you're not doing a very good job of it.

Keep it up!! Your posts are great reading.

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the fact that we were offered 4 first round picks for 3 2nd/3rd line players and Burke took none of them tells me he thinks none of the kids are ready otherwise he could have took one for say Mac, and let a Kadri or Frattin or whoever take his place. but he didn't which to me means none of the kids are ready right now.
Maybe he just really believes we can make the playoffs this year with what we have. I know I believe it (though after tonight all I can say is maybe I shouldn't). In any event maybe Burke is telling the truth and he thinks we're good enough to make it. Even hockey GMs tell the truth sometimes.


edit : now if we could only get our politicians to do it every once in a while lol


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Maybe he just really believes we can make the playoffs this year with what we have. I know I believe it (though after tonight all I can say is maybe I shouldn't). In any event maybe Burke is telling the truth and he thinks we're good enough to make it. Even hockey GMs tell the truth sometimes.


edit : now if we could only get our politicians to do it every once in a while lol

The longer Burke continues the course and does nothing to address losing by the team and coaching staff, the longer it looks like he doesn’t know what he’s doing.

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02-28-2012, 11:17 PM
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Well you're the one who called your own post a rant so I guess taking out one sentence woud be appropriate, like what difference does that make?

Intriquing. Every other team with a 'crap' team focuses on bottoming out and intentionally losing? Wow! Am I ever naive..........

I challenge you to find one post I have ever made whereby Burke is my "saviour" LOL - sorry but that is just out and out hilarious to me. I am a Preisst!! What in the heck do I need a saviour for????

Where did I ever say top 3 picks wouldn't have helped us? You are taking what is called the assumptive and might I point out you're not doing a very good job of it.

Keep it up!! Your posts are great reading.
Keep on bolding my posts and back tracking.

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The longer Burke continues the course and does nothing to address losing by the team and coaching staff, the longer it looks like he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Depends. I think he listened/delved into trades, made a decision that he didn't like the offers, figured he's got an out with the coach firing, discussed with RW that he had one last shot to right the ship, and now they both know whats on the line.

In the end we make it and he knows what he's doing or we don't and he didn't.

I'm gonna go old school and cheer for my team to win either way. Still 19 games to go, lots of time.

More interested in how the team does then the GM anyway.

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Keep on bolding my posts and back tracking.
Keep on front tracking and not bolding my posts.

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To tell the truth, I have not seen much contradiction in what he says and does. He seems quite consistent to me.

The Leafs have a real organization in place for the first time .... ever! VAnd he always seems to act in consort with the game plan of said org. There are things to criticize him for ... I am sure, but his honesty would not be one of the things.
Sorry, I'm confused. I could have sworn you just said that a team who has missed the playoffs seven straight seasons (and 4 under Burke) is our first real organization.


On second thought, my bad. There's no way you could say that.

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02-29-2012, 07:37 AM
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Burke stated yesterday that he received first round pick offers for Grabo, Kulemin, Schenn and a conditional one for MacArthur.
Was listening to this on the radio. REALLY wished he'd have taken it for Grabo/Kuley/Mac. If the idea is to win a Cup, like he keeps saying, why wouldn't you do this? Do we really envision Clarke MacArthur lifting the Stanley Cup in Toronto? Keep Schenn, invisipucks aside...

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