Just because you are highly compensated does not mean that you don't have a life away from work and a family. These things effect people pretty equally, regardless of their income or wealth.
This.
These guys are human beings also. Just because they make money doesn't mean the impact of struggling to keep a marriage or relationship together is any lessened.
Have any of you ever been going through a tough stretch in a relationship or a break up....let alone a divorce? It's hard to focus yea? You don't feel like doing stuff. You start to hate on yourself...lack of confidence...
It can be really detrimental to your all around health.
Me for example? I am no professional athlete. But I hit the weights generally 3 times a week and try to do cardio twice. Recently I went through a bad stretch with my gf and I didn't do ****. I worked out maybe once or twice and it was half assed. It eats at ya.
These guys, while athletes, are STILL human. They have every day lives that definitely effect their on ice performance or their job performance. Just like us. Confidence is a huge part of a hockey players game. And if you are struggling with it personally off the ice...it definitely is realistic it could creep in to the on ice performance. Penner probably feels like he can't do anything right right now.
I think a lot of times this is why hockey players stay single til way later in their careers (this is of course not true for everyone). It can be difficult. The distance, the time away from home. And a lot of these guys probably JUST want to focus on hockey.
Axl, you yourself said that he got married last year right around the trade right? I mean...maybe there is a correlation there...maybe not. I don't know either way for sure. And I am not going to assume this is the reason he has played so poorly. But realistically..it COULD be....a contributing factor.
These guys are human beings also. Just because they make money doesn't mean the impact of struggling to keep a marriage or relationship together is any lessened.
Have any of you ever been going through a tough stretch in a relationship or a break up....let alone a divorce? It's hard to focus yea? You don't feel like doing stuff. You start to hate on yourself...lack of confidence...
It can be really detrimental to your all around health.
Me for example? I am no professional athlete. But I hit the weights generally 3 times a week and try to do cardio twice. Recently I went through a bad stretch with my gf and I didn't do ****. I worked out maybe once or twice and it was half assed. It eats at ya.
These guys, while athletes, are STILL human. They have every day lives that definitely effect their on ice performance or their job performance. Just like us. Confidence is a huge part of a hockey players game. And if you are struggling with it personally off the ice...it definitely is realistic it could creep in to the on ice performance. Penner probably feels like he can't do anything right right now.
I think a lot of times this is why hockey players stay single til way later in their careers (this is of course not true for everyone). It can be difficult. The distance, the time away from home. And a lot of these guys probably JUST want to focus on hockey.
Axl, you yourself said that he got married last year right around the trade right? I mean...maybe there is a correlation there...maybe not. I don't know either way for sure. And I am not going to assume this is the reason he has played so poorly. But realistically..it COULD be....a contributing factor.
Bingo,
Anyone remember how Quick played after his child was born ? How about Dustin with his kid?
Lets stop acting like the man is the victim. They are just as stupid as the women they marry.
Let's not be so glib about this. You take a Manitoba kid out of Manitoba, put him in LA, he marries an aspiring actress wife, it may in fact turn out not to be the best match for him -- but it's easy to see how a guy in this situation can lose track for awhile of what's the best match for him.
Again, this is all just speculation, but my point is Kingurentai wasn't calling Penner a victim. Everyone goes through hard roads in life and sometimes when that happens, they could use just a tiny bit more consideration from everyone else, while they attempt to sort it out and get back to being themselves again.
I know it's only a very small minority of posters saying things to this effect, but... I doubt very much that the people who say that since he's compensated millions of dollars, he should be immune to personal struggles have ever even been in a position like this themselves. A new low for the HF boards, for sure. Penner should shake off his personal life without a second thought so that your favorite hockey team can provide you with maximum entertainment?! Wow! Talk about entitlement!
It doesn't excuse Penner's performance entirely, but at the very least I won't be booing him or quite as confused about the way things have gone for him lately.
I think anyone with a human soul would agree that friends, family, and other relationships trump all else. Money, success, fame, and other accomplishments (to me) are only imprtant if you have someone special to share it with. Sure, there are sociopaths out there that don't need anyone but they are the exception, not the rule. I know that if I get into an argument with my girlfriend most likely I will not be having the best day at work and if it continues over time it would certainly effect my performance.
I don't think anyone on here is saying that it's acceptable to underperform at their workplace but, to me, it certainly explains alot. .
Dude, the guy had just gotten married a year ago when he was traded...I'm sure life was bliss around that time, yet the guy sucked harder. So, what was his excuse then?
These guys get paid millions of dollars, if you can't find a way to block out personal issues and do what you are getting paid MILLIONS of dollars to do, then maybe you just aren't cut out for that type of job.
I am going to take an educated guess and say that you are very young, probably still in your teens and that explains your myopic view on this. That or you have very little life experience. Do you really think all marriages are bliss right from the start? Seriously? It varies from couple to couple, but the first year can also be difficult in adjusting to a whole new way a life. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but it can carry a lot of stress.
You also seem to be really hung up on money, which comes across as petty. Just because someone makes a lot of money, it doesn't mean they are stone inside. They will have the same emotions that everybody else does. I suggest you invent a robot hockey league if you don't want human emotions interfering with the game in any way shape or form. And guess what? Human emotions are what make the game so damn exciting, you just have to take the good with the bad.
Who cares? Better yet, why should anyone care what is going on off the ice with regards to our players personal relationships? They are people who deserve the same amount of respect away from the game as any of us would demand. So Penner's alleged affair that was reported around here early this season is true, big deal.
I only hold him accountable for what he does on the ice. The reasons don't matter because I afford him the exact same privacy that I want. I only know or care who he is because he is a hockey player or more to the point, a king.
Best of luck to each of our players away from the game but when you put on that jersey I expect their best and give them mine in return.
This thread is a useless invasion of privacy and nothing more than gossipy nonsense to me.
Agree totally. If your not a personal friend that he has confided in then it's not anyone's GD business.
I guess Marty Brodeur has no soul as he stepped up big leading the Devils to another cup in 2003 as his family was ripped apart in the eyes of the public
I guess Marty Brodeur has no soul as he stepped up big leading the Devils to another cup in 2003 as his family was ripped apart in the eyes of the public
Important to remember that Brodeur was cheating. He, at one point, took it upon himself to risk what he had to engage in adultery. You don't take that step without assessing the consequences.
So when it all came crashing down for Marty i am sure it was something he prepared mentally long before it happened.
And no to be clear I am not saying Penners wife cheated on him or vice versa.
