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02-29-2012, 10:55 PM
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McPhee is the real idiot there. Who hires Cassidy, Hanlon, Boudreau and Hunter, all coaches with ZERO prior NHL coaching experience in a row?
I actually think that team has a locker room problem above coaching problem. Lots of times when multiple stars share a team it becomes a mess.

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How is that coaching change in Washington working out.
20-17-4 is how it's working out. Much better than our 17-20-5 record over the same time period.

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20-17-4 is how it's working out. Much better than our 17-20-5 record over the same time period.
About 5 of those loses came right off the bat to while they were changing over to a new system.

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I actually think that team has a locker room problem above coaching problem. Lots of times when multiple stars share a team it becomes a mess.
Again, that's on the GM.

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Not a chance. Gordon is already the assistant coach- what difference would it make "bringing in" somebody who is already there to end the season? Not going to happen.

I'd love to see Eakins get a shot next season though. He seems like a great guy and a great coach. He'd definitely give the young guys a shot, and would not throw the boys under the bus (or in Reimer's case, park the bus on top of him).

Keep falling, draft Galchenyuk or Grigorenko (trade up if need be/ if possible) and let Eakins develop the kid in the NHL.
And when this team is fighting for the 8th seed again next season, y'all will want to tank again. Round and round we go.

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02-29-2012, 10:58 PM
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Dallas is waiting patiently. Arms crossed.
Why mess up a good thing with the marlies on a playoff run...

Let Gordon take over on a interm basis and evaluate the decision at the end of the year. If Dallas is the guy after all that, Great.

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02-29-2012, 10:59 PM
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About 5 of those loses came right off the bat to while they were changing over to a new system.
That's true. Good for McPhee for having the balls to make a change early on when it matters. We clearly waited way to long to do anything (firings or trades) to help this team get to the playoffs.

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McPhee is the real idiot there. Who hires Cassidy, Hanlon, Boudreau and Hunter, all coaches with ZERO prior NHL coaching experience in a row?
Not necesarilly. A finger can be pointed at Leonsis for allowing himself to get to imeresed into the team, specifically players, and McPhee giving player (s) too much rope. Beaudreau looks to be a good one, and Hunter has a great program in London.

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02-29-2012, 11:02 PM
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That's true. Good for McPhee for having the balls to make a change early on when it matters. We clearly waited way to long to do anything (firings or trades) to help this team get to the playoffs.
McPhee should have canned Boudreau after that Habs series. If not then, for sure after that TB sweep last season. He waited too long to fire Boudreau who had them playing a trap so he could hang on to his coaching job.

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Why mess up a good thing with the marlies on a playoff run...

Let Gordon take over on a interm basis and evaluate the decision at the end of the year. If Dallas is the guy after all that, Great.
why go internal? to the point that its the existing coach.. Dallas I understand, yes he should get a shot.. but Gordon?? He's just as much to blame as wilson is for this. The WHOLE coaching stuff works on things like defence.

if we want to tank the rest of the season.. then yes... hire Gordon.. if we want to see if we can make one last ditch effort at the playoffs you go external..

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The Air Canada Centre crowd offered up its own solution Tuesday night with loud chants of "Fire Wilson!" and #firewilson was trending worldwide on Twitter after the game.
If you guys need any pointers on protests, chants, Tee's, signs, FB etc. let us know, we are experts in C-bus... I see y'all have Twitter down.

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please god no, the tank is going so well
THIS!!!! 100x THIS!!!!!!!

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20-17-4 is how it's working out. Much better than our 17-20-5 record over the same time period.
While missing Backstrom who was their best player before getting injured and Green (although he did come back recently).

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I see no point in making a change.

I know we COULD go on a run, and still squeak in. But you have to be realistic. We have a tough schedule coming up, and probably need 24-26 more points to make the playoffs. And thats assuming nobody else makes a run, which its likely that a couple teams will.

I would rather lose every game until the regular season. We desperately need another blue chip prospect to add to this group. I would rather add that to this young core than barely get in the playoffs and get smashed.

Fire Wilson right after the season is done. You let Eakins do what he can with the Marlies in the playoffs, and start fresh next year.

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im sure burke doesn't want to fire wilson but someone has to pay for still not making the playoffs ..... not the fans

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I see no point in making a change.

I know we COULD go on a run, and still squeak in. But you have to be realistic. We have a tough schedule coming up, and probably need 24-26 more points to make the playoffs. And thats assuming nobody else makes a run, which its likely that a couple teams will.

I would rather lose every game until the regular season. We desperately need another blue chip prospect to add to this group. I would rather add that to this young core than barely get in the playoffs and get smashed.

Fire Wilson right after the season is done. You let Eakins do what he can with the Marlies in the playoffs, and start fresh next year.
This.

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02-29-2012, 11:11 PM
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im sure burke doesn't want to fire wilson but someone has to pay for still not making the playoffs ..... not the fans
As an outsider, Burke built a good defense, he was one goalie short.. I personally would think playoffs right now, you are very close.

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As an outsider, Burke built a good defense, he was one goalie short.. I personally would think playoffs right now, you are very close.
I still think in the end this losing spell could be the best thing to happen to this team.

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02-29-2012, 11:13 PM
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As an outsider, Burke built a good defense, he was one goalie short.. I personally would think playoffs right now, you are very close.
We have a very mediocre defense.

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We have a very mediocre defense.
Not according to this:

12. TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS
Defence (ES Shot Differential/60 mins.): Dion Phaneuf (+1.5), Carl Gunnarsson (-2.3), John-Michael Liles (+0.8), Jake Gardiner (-3.0), Cody Franson (+1.4), Luke Schenn (-6.9), Mike Komisarek (-7.2), Keith Aulie (-3.0).
Shots Against Per Game: 30.7
Goals: 23
Assists: 102
+/-: +20
Comment: Trades have practically made this group, as Dion Phaneuf, John-Michael Liles, Jake Gardiner, Cody Franson and Keith Aulie all came via trades. Luke Schenn hasn't progressed as much as expected, so it's fortunate for the Leafs that Carl Gunnarsson has quietly been an effective in his 22 minutes per game.


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As an outsider, Burke built a good defense, he was one goalie short.. I personally would think playoffs right now, you are very close.
Burke did build a good defense. Wilson didn't know how to play them in a style that highlighted their natural talents. You can not make your freight trains run like Ferrari.

There are many people in Toronto that played and also played competitively even if just at a young age. These people are not easily fooled by Burke and Wilsons excuses.

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I'll be pissed if Burke fires Wilson right now.

The season is over. Let it keep sliding and get a good pick. Let Eakins run with the Marlies. Then bring his ass up here to replace Ron.

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why go internal? to the point that its the existing coach.. Dallas I understand, yes he should get a shot.. but Gordon?? He's just as much to blame as wilson is for this. The WHOLE coaching stuff works on things like defence.

if we want to tank the rest of the season.. then yes... hire Gordon.. if we want to see if we can make one last ditch effort at the playoffs you go external..
i didn't say Gordon on a permanent solution by any means... BUT i think there should be some serious due diligence done before hiring a new coach... I wouldn't want to fire Wilson and give the keys to Dallas because our kids will get affected by that THIS year, in the middle of there best season in years...

At the end of the season is when we should hire the coach that is right for our franchise. If it's Eakins great! but not taking the time to make sure he is the guy is a mistake IMO.

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We have a very mediocre defense.
I honestly think it's the whole "run n gun" style the Leafs play, why are these defenceman decent on other teams but when they come here they are garbage?

Gardiner flourishes on this team cuz of the style we play and he's a good skater, however pylons like Phaneuf, Komisarek Aulie, Schenn, and Franson are absolutely killed

Burke is either an idiot for bringing in the wrong type of players for this system
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Wilson is an idiot for not changing the system to suit the style of these defenceman

pick your poison

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And when this team is fighting for the 8th seed again next season, y'all will want to tank again. Round and round we go.
I, like most others, would rather keep falling then finish up in 9th.

I will be extremely happy if we make it into the playoffs but it's not looking likely at all.

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