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03-01-2012, 11:34 AM
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thats why it's called the NHLOL

everything is based on reputation or if you're a superstar

"oh what's that? instigating a fight with less than 5 minutes left in game 6 of the Stanley Cup finals? Well, we'll just give him a roughing penalty instead so that he's good to go for game 7"
I have been stating this for years. At the end of Game 2 of the SCF Malkin got into a fight with less than 5 minutes left and is given no suspension when the rules clearly state otherwise. Game 3 he has a 4 point night essentially saving them from going down 3-0 to Detroit.

The whole suspension system is a joke. Sometimes love taps are two game suspensions then Staal commits that hit on Coburn and doesn't even receive the full punishment of 5 minutes...

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There is an entirely separate set of rules for Malkin.

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03-01-2012, 11:52 AM
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Should of been a 2 minute boarding penalty. I dont think there was any malice on the hit. Didnt think it was intentional then and I still dont. I would of been fine with just the 2 minutes.
Schenn is probably fortunate he got away with the knee on knee as well soon after that.

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03-01-2012, 11:54 AM
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He should have been suspended a game, but Briere is a diver and faked injury so It's karma I guess.
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Should of been a 2 minute boarding penalty. I dont think there was any malice on the hit. Didnt think it was intentional then and I still dont. I would of been fine with just the 2 minutes.
Schenn is probably fortunate he got away with the knee on knee as well soon after that.
Wasn't Coburn the knee-on-knee?

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Wasn't Coburn the knee-on-knee?
According to the main boards, yes

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According to the main boards, yes
It would be rather ironic if you were quoting my posts on the main board to support this. I do remember the Sharks announcers noting Coburn's hit on the game summary.

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It would be rather ironic if you were quoting my posts on the main board to support this. I do remember the Sharks announcers noting Coburn's hit on the game summary.
Nah, was a sharks fan saying Coburn was lucky the knee on knee hit wasnt called

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Vlasic didn't need to follow through on that hit, but it shouldn't have been more than a boarding penalty.

A missed penalty call does not necessarily require a suspension.

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Vlasic didn't need to follow through on that hit, but it shouldn't have been more than a boarding penalty.

A missed penalty call does not necessarily require a suspension.
the whole point is that it wasnt even deemed a minor penalty when stuff like that always results in 2 minutes

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There is an entirely separate set of rules for Malkin.
Last night I watched him throw a few fists at a Stars player (I think Nystrom) when they were shoving each other...and of course no call. I was surprised but I shouldn't have been.

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the whole point is that it wasnt even deemed a minor penalty when stuff like that always results in 2 minutes
Refs miss calls every game, even when an incident happens right in front of them.

The worst missed call in the game is a slash that breaks an opponent's stick. By the rules that's an automatic penalty (like clearing the puck over the glass in your own zone), yet it is probably called only 75% of the time.

Human error is a part of the referee world whether we like it or not.

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Refs miss calls every game, even when an incident happens right in front of them.

The worst missed call in the game is a slash that breaks an opponent's stick. By the rules that's an automatic penalty (like clearing the puck over the glass in your own zone), yet it is probably called only 75% of the time.

Human error is a part of the referee world whether we like it or not.
there's no way the refs could have missed that, especially the one in the zone

besides, they can consult with their linemen as well

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thats why it's called the NHLOL

everything is based on reputation or if you're a superstar

"oh what's that? instigating a fight with less than 5 minutes left in game 6 of the Stanley Cup finals? Well, we'll just give him a roughing penalty instead so that he's good to go for game 7"
I couldn't believe he didn't get suspended for that last game for starting that fight. Talbot did his usual stirring the pot and then hiding behind his teammates and Malkin then jumps Zetterberg and just starts throwing them while Zetterberg still had his gloves on. It was suppose to be an automatic suspension for the next game for whoever instigated a fight before the end of the game no matter who did it

The hit on Briere was a very dangerous hit though I am fine with no suspension.

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Last night I watched him throw a few fists at a Stars player (I think Nystrom) when they were shoving each other...and of course no call. I was surprised but I shouldn't have been.
That is why I would love Ott on this team. Just seeing him going against Malkin every game would be a site to see

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Refs miss calls every game, even when an incident happens right in front of them.

The worst missed call in the game is a slash that breaks an opponent's stick. By the rules that's an automatic penalty (like clearing the puck over the glass in your own zone), yet it is probably called only 75% of the time.

Human error is a part of the referee world whether we like it or not.
Thats completely true but the example I mentioned about Malkin was one that they DID see and assessed him a 5 minute penalty. My issue was with the NHL front office that ignored the very rule that they created by not implementing his minimum 2 game suspension for being given a 5 minute fighting major in the final 5 minutes of a game. It's long gone and dead of an issue and the Pens already go away with it, my point is that I'm not surprised Vlassic wasn't given a suspension because Briere was involved. Players should not be given or not given special treatment because of who they are, that creates the situation we have right now where the punishments are vague and players continue to be hit from awkward positions since there is not clear line as to what is wrong.

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Should of been a 2 minute boarding penalty. I dont think there was any malice on the hit. Didnt think it was intentional then and I still dont. I would of been fine with just the 2 minutes.
Schenn is probably fortunate he got away with the knee on knee as well soon after that.
Yeah, I agree with this. It should have been a penalty, but not a major and definitely not a suspension.

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im still trying to figure out why there wasnt anything done about that elbow that took jvr out

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I see it this way:

Briere knew that hit was coming. What he should have done there is dump the puck behind the net to Hartnell and get the cycle going, and absorb the inevitable hit along the boards... Instead, he chose try something fancy: Stop on a dime and spin away from the check while standing six feet away from the boards. When contact was made Briere could not keep his footing. It did not appear to me that Vlasic had intent to injure, he was simply trying to keep Briere from getting in behind the net (where he is most dangerous). To do this he needs to hit him hard enough to either jar the puck loose or knock him down. To be honest watching the footage it doesn't even look like Vlasic hit him "that" hard I think Briere is half falling into the boards as a result poor footing. At worst this is a boarding minor.

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Briere put himself in that situation, he put on the brakes 4-5 feet from the boards, instead of doing what he's supposed to (and what Vlasic would expect), which is bracing himself against the boards. I'm not blaming Vlasic at all, though it probably should've been a minor, but that's it.

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Wasn't Coburn the knee-on-knee?
oh right it was Coburn. my bad.

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Refs miss calls every game, even when an incident happens right in front of them.

The worst missed call in the game is a slash that breaks an opponent's stick. By the rules that's an automatic penalty (like clearing the puck over the glass in your own zone), yet it is probably called only 75% of the time.

Human error is a part of the referee world whether we like it or not.
not if we had robot refs, get on it microsoft!

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im still trying to figure out why there wasnt anything done about that elbow that took jvr out
what team does JVR play for?

there's your reason why

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Sharks fan here, just scoping out the opinion on the Briere hit. How was he not given an Impact test, especially with the history/comments/nature of the hit?

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Briere said that he did not undergo an ImPACT baseline concussion test on the hit, though judging based on his comments below, it may not have been a bad idea for a player who is just 3 weeks back from a concussion.

“I was just lost there,” Briere explained. “Kind of flipped around, too. I think I was just dizzy there for a few minutes. I didn’t even know what happened until I saw the video.

Read more: http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...#ixzz1nyZ6MjtU
Anyways, hope he's ok. I've always rooted for Briere for some reason.

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Sharks fan here, just scoping out the opinion on the Briere hit. How was he not given an Impact test, especially with the history/comments/nature of the hit?



Anyways, hope he's ok. I've always rooted for Briere for some reason.
Because our training staff has a history of screwing up in extraordinary fashion from time to time.

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