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02-28-2012, 07:39 PM
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I already heard that one.
Still not sure of what to use.
Haha

Go with Plekstoyakupov

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The Gionta hate is hilarious considering how our overall possession game went from good to bad when he got injured. (to god awfull under Cunneyworth)

Guy has lead our team in goals for the last two straight years. That team was a playoff team.

Edit: Also, lol at the fact that Penner and Gio is worse for Plek and Eller's value than what they got all season. See who Plekanec is playing with right now.... he'd probably throw a party if we got him Penner after that.
I've never really liked Gionta. If he was a $2 million per year 3rd line grinder it wouldn't bother me if he stayed but he isn't.

Gionta doesn't seem to have any chemistry with Eller or Plekanec so that is what makes him irrelevant to me. I would rather get rid of him and try someone else that has a chance to have chemistry with Pleks or Eller rather than getting rid of Eller or Pleks to try and find someone to play with Gionta.

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I already heard that one.
Still not sure of what to use.
How about GoodbyetoKostitsynGoal

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How about WelcomeBackKotterstitsynToEller.

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Pacioretty-Grigorenko-Cole
Bourque-Plekanec-Gionta
Moen-Eller-Leblanc
Geoffrion-Gaustad-White
Glass

Suter-Subban
Markov-Emelin
Gorges-Hannan
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02-29-2012, 05:37 AM
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Pacioretty-DD-Cole
Parise-Eller-Gionta
Goeffrion-Grigorenko-Bourque
Moen-???-White
Darche

Markov-Gorges
Kaberle-Subban
Diaz-Emelin
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02-29-2012, 06:35 AM
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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($7.500m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Rene Bourque ($3.333m)
Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m) / Erik Cole ($4.500m)
Travis Moen ($1.500m) / Lars Eller ($1.500m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Louis Leblanc ($1.170m) / Mikhail Grigorenko ($2.500m) / Ryan White ($0.625m)
Blake Geoffrion ($0.700m)

DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($6.750m) / P.K. Subban ($3.250m)
Andrei Markov ($5.750m) / Alexei Emelin ($1.300m)
Josh Gorges ($3.900m) / Raphael Diaz ($1.100m)
Yannick Weber ($0.850m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($4.750m) / Peter Budaj ($1.150m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $66,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,603,333; BONUSES: $1,300,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $396,667

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02-29-2012, 06:53 AM
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Pacioretty-DD-Cole
Parise-Eller-Gionta
Goeffrion-Grigorenko-Bourque
Moen-???-White
Darche

Markov-Gorges
Kaberle-Subban
Diaz-Emelin
Weber

Price
Why do u have grigo on the third line? Really? SMH

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02-29-2012, 10:32 AM
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This is my wishful thinking 2012-2013 lineup.

Caveat: this is dream world and we get the two top UFAs and Molson decides to eat the Gomez and Kaberle money because he wants to win now.

1) Draft Grigorenko or similar centre
2) Gomez to minors or Europe or trade (lol)
3) Kaberle to minors or Europe or trade (semi-lol)
4) Sign Price to 8 year deal 5-6-7-8-8-7-5-3
5) Sign Subban to 8 year deal 2-3-4-5-5-6-4-4
6) Extend Pacioretty to JVR similar deal (cap hit increase in 2013-14)
7) Get Parise to front loaded deal 8-8-8-7-7-5-4-3
8) Get Suter to front loaded deal 8-8-8-7-7-5-4-3
9) Try to get Moen to sign at same price as now
10) Re-sign White, Eller, Geoffrion, Blunden, Staubitz (or similar)

This should get us close to 66M and a pretty good team. May have to deal Plekanec, Gionta or Desharnais to make it work salary wise.


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FORWARDS
Zach Parise ($6.250m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Erik Cole ($4.500m)
Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Lars Eller ($1.200m) / Mikhail Grigorenko ($3.750m) / Rene Bourque ($3.333m)
Blake Geoffrion ($0.850m) / Ryan White ($0.700m) / Travis Moen ($1.500m)
/ Mike Blunden ($0.676m) / Brad Staubitz ($0.632m)

DEFENSEMEN
Andrei Markov ($5.750m) / Ryan Suter ($6.250m)
Josh Gorges ($3.900m) / P.K. Subban ($4.125m)
Raphael Diaz ($1.000m) / Alexei Emelin ($1.150m)
/ Yannick Weber ($0.850m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($6.125m) / Peter Budaj ($1.150m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $66,000,000; CAP PAYROLL: $66,167,333; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$167,333

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02-29-2012, 01:25 PM
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this is our roster for next year if we basically maintain the status quo...

modest raises for most of our RFA's, plus big raises for our two "gems" (Subban ~5M$ & Price ~6M$ is what I expect, +/- 500-750k)

and re-signing Moen/Darche at roughly same cap hit.

amazingly (and sadly) leaves us with a roster slightly over the current cap, with zero upgrades...

That Gomez/Kaberle & the 11.5M$ of cap space they use up NEED to be moved, pretty much goes without saying...

but until it happens, looks like we'll be in line for another "playoff's at best/ 6-10th" type season for 2012-2013.



CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Erik Cole ($4.500m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m) / Rene Bourque ($3.333m)
Louis Leblanc ($1.170m) / Lars Eller ($1.850m) / Blake Geoffrion ($1.062m)
Travis Moen ($1.750m) / Ryan White ($0.825m) / Scott Gomez ($7.357m)
Mathieu Darche ($0.700m)

DEFENSEMEN
P.K. Subban ($4.875m) / Josh Gorges ($3.900m)
Raphael Diaz ($1.400m) / Alexei Emelin ($1.400m)
Yannick Weber ($0.850m) / Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m)
Andrei Markov ($5.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($6.250m) / Peter Budaj ($1.150m)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,847,976; BONUSES: $300,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): -$547,976

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02-29-2012, 01:40 PM
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this is our roster for next year if we basically maintain the status quo...

modest raises for most of our RFA's, plus big raises for our two "gems" (Subban ~5M$ & Price ~6M$ is what I expect, +/- 500-750k)

and re-signing Moen/Darche at roughly same cap hit.

amazingly (and sadly) leaves us with a roster slightly over the current cap, with zero upgrades...

That Gomez/Kaberle & the 11.5M$ of cap space they use up NEED to be moved, pretty much goes without saying...

but until it happens, looks like we'll be in line for another "playoff's at best/ 6-10th" type season for 2012-2013.



CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Erik Cole ($4.500m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m) / Rene Bourque ($3.333m)
Louis Leblanc ($1.170m) / Lars Eller ($1.850m) / Blake Geoffrion ($1.062m)
Travis Moen ($1.750m) / Ryan White ($0.825m) / Scott Gomez ($7.357m)
Mathieu Darche ($0.700m)

DEFENSEMEN
P.K. Subban ($4.875m) / Josh Gorges ($3.900m)
Raphael Diaz ($1.400m) / Alexei Emelin ($1.400m)
Yannick Weber ($0.850m) / Tomas Kaberle ($4.250m)
Andrei Markov ($5.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($6.250m) / Peter Budaj ($1.150m)

SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,847,976; BONUSES: $300,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): -$547,976
At first, I was like

Then I was like

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02-29-2012, 01:42 PM
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At first, I was like

Then I was like
yup...

gainey/gauthier legacy, and yet somehow some people still try to make a case that this era has been anything short of a massive cluster *******

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I already heard that one.
Still not sure of what to use.
im shamelessly gonna steal someone else's idea and say that i liked "gomez2darchemissopennet"

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03-01-2012, 09:18 AM
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Apparently, Timmins prefers Galchenyuk to Grigorenko.

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03-01-2012, 09:41 AM
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Apparently, Timmins prefers Galchenyuk to Grigorenko.
He isn't alone. Wasn't Galchenyuk ahead before his injury?

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Apparently, Timmins prefers Galchenyuk to Grigorenko.
I've seen the posts that he's not high on Grigorenko, but haven't heard/seen anything regarding Galchenyuk - where did you see that one?

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I've seen the posts that he's not high on Grigorenko, but haven't heard/seen anything regarding Galchenyuk - where did you see that one?
"This might come as a surprise to you, but I think the Habs will draft Alex Galchenyuk, as McCagg has been clear about the fact that drafting Grigo in the top5 would be a risk accord to Timmins."

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Adam-...tive/155/42700

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"This might come as a surprise to you, but I think the Habs will draft Alex Galchenyuk, as McCagg has been clear about the fact that drafting Grigo in the top5 would be a risk accord to Timmins."

http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Adam-...tive/155/42700
I read that as McCagg's rumour about Grigorenko, and Pouliot's speculation about Galchenyuk - two different things, not a rumour that Timmins prefers Galchenyuk to Grigorenko.

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I read that as McCagg's rumour about Grigorenko, and Pouliot's speculation about Galchenyuk - two different things, not a rumour that Timmins prefers Galchenyuk to Grigorenko.
ouch ...

Grigorenko
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=143915

vs

Galchenyuk
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=130582

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Isn't Q the highest scoring league in the CHL? If we prefer Galchenyuk, then there's no reason to finish top 2 as i'm quite certain the oilers will either draft a dman or grigorenko....

plus Galchenyuk is essentially American so if we have a worry about drafting a lazy russian, that fear can be put to rest.

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The Q and O are completely different leagues dude.

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I read that as McCagg's rumour about Grigorenko, and Pouliot's speculation about Galchenyuk - two different things, not a rumour that Timmins prefers Galchenyuk to Grigorenko.
ya and so was jeff carter...

god i hope we dont pass on grigs

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Isn't Q the highest scoring league in the CHL? If we prefer Galchenyuk, then there's no reason to finish top 2 as i'm quite certain the oilers will either draft a dman or grigorenko....

plus Galchenyuk is essentially American so if we have a worry about drafting a lazy russian, that fear can be put to rest.
10 years ago maybe but the CHL leagues have pretty much equalized. There isn't really a meaningful difference in what a point means in each league anymore.

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This is what we should aim for :
Dump Gomez and Kaberle, trade Weber. Sign Suter, Parise, Rupp, Gaustad and a big mean UFA d-man.
Put Moen with Plekanec and Gionta, and you have a shutdown line that can provide an offensive spark.
Cole - Desharnais - Pacioretty
Parise - Eller - Bourque
Moen - Plekanec - Gionta
Rupp - Gaustad - White

Markov - Suter
Gorges - Subban
Emelin - BigMeanUFA
Diaz

Price
Budaj.

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I like how everyone's plan is to get Parise and Suter. How likely is it that one of them makes it to July 1st as a free agent?

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