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03-01-2012, 11:00 PM
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A top 10 pick to the Flyers

I would really love it if the flyers could get into a top 10 spot in the draft to try and get a crack at a guy like Griffin Reinhart.

Would a package like; Voracek + Flyers 1st be enough?

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I'd give my 7-10 for a proven player and a first any day. Especially voracek. I don't think Philly would make that deal, though.

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I would give 4-10th overall it for couturier

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I gotta think the Hurricanes would do it if they picked 5-10.

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You somehow magicked Sean Couturier last year, can't you just be satisfied already?

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I would really love it if the flyers could get into a top 10 spot in the draft to try and get a crack at a guy like Griffin Reinhart.

Would a package like; Voracek + Flyers 1st be enough?
In each of the past two drafts ,Snow has shopped his 5th overall pick ,stubbornly refusing quantity for quality trades.He's wanted a young ,potential stud for the young,potential stud he felt he was passing up.

Strang in NY Newsday said he wanted a 20-22 yr old.Imo he wanted someone so young because they'd be yrs from unrestricted free agency and could grow with his young team.

the isles have a glut of young forwards/forward prospects.A deeper pool of forwards then young defensemen/defensive prospects.I expect Snow to come out of the first round with a d-man.

Do the Flyers have a very young blueliner to offer up ? One with the upside of a Murry,Dumba or Trouba?

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Griffin Reinhart.
Would a package like; Voracek + Flyers 1st be enough?
no.
reinhart lands on long island.

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Would a package like; Voracek + Flyers 1st be enough?
Anaheim is a bad fit. You can cross us off the list. I think we're one of the most likely to trade our first, but wingers won't get it done at all.

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JVR for Torontos 1st which is looking like a top 10 with their plummet. Brian Burke needs to make the playoffs next year so the Flyers might be able to also get a b-level prospect thrown in like Holzer.

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JVR for Torontos 1st which is looking like a top 10 with their plummet. Brian Burke needs to make the playoffs next year so the Flyers might be able to also get a b-level prospect thrown in like Holzer.
We wont send a top 10 pick for an often injured player. We are gonna lose a lot more games than we r gonna win. I wont be surprised if we get a top 5 pick. Maybe JVR + 1st or Couturier+1st or Schenn + 1st. If we win the draft lotttery, we could draft Yakupov. You guyz wont trade any of JVR, Schenn, Couturier and a 1st for our pick. JVR is a bust, while Schenn and Couturier is too valuable to u guyz. Our pick is just as untouchable as Couturier is 2 u guyz.

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If this is a trade that is not done until the actual draft. The Leafs picking 8th and they aren't too high on what's available, than I could see a straight swap of JVR. But that is after they have weighed all options including trading the pick in a package for Nash.

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Are you trolling or actually serious???
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JVR for Torontos 1st which is looking like a top 10 with their plummet. Brian Burke needs to make the playoffs next year so the Flyers might be able to also get a b-level prospect thrown in like Holzer.
Lol. I'm okay with getting rid of Burke if he's stupid enough to do this.

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We wont send a top 10 pick for an often injured player..
Often injured player? One year of injuries and that player if often injured. By that logic, Jeffrey Lupul is made of glass with his injury history and has next to no value..... I agree that in a normal draft year, JVR might not be worth a top ten pick, and absolutely not top 5, but this year is looking devoid of top end talent, specifically offensive. After Yakupov, Forsberg, Galchenyuk, and Grigorenko, there is a serious drop off in offensive talent after that, especially if Toronto is looking for a prospect with size.

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Often injured player? One year of injuries and that player if often injured. By that logic, Jeffrey Lupul is made of glass with his injury history and has next to no value..... I agree that in a normal draft year, JVR might not be worth a top ten pick, and absolutely not top 5, but this year is looking devoid of top end talent, specifically offensive. After Yakupov, Forsberg, Galchenyuk, and Grigorenko, there is a serious drop off in offensive talent after that, especially if Toronto is looking for a prospect with size.
What's your point? Toronto could be drafting in the top 5 if they continue to free fall.

Guys like Dumba and Murray are rated higher than Forsberg. Not to mention Faksa is another big C the Leafs would love to have.


Those 3 + the 4 you mentioned, looks like there's good talent in the top 7.

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Often injured player? One year of injuries and that player if often injured. By that logic, Jeffrey Lupul is made of glass with his injury history and has next to no value..... I agree that in a normal draft year, JVR might not be worth a top ten pick, and absolutely not top 5, but this year is looking devoid of top end talent, specifically offensive. After Yakupov, Forsberg, Galchenyuk, and Grigorenko, there is a serious drop off in offensive talent after that, especially if Toronto is looking for a prospect with size.
6th in league scoring gives you some value. I think SIDGENO8771's argument is that JVR has a history of concussions and hasn't had a breakout season yet, so the move would be risky for the Leafs.

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My point is that Brian Burke needs to make the playoffs next year, just like Howson needed to make the playoffs last year and overpaid for Carter. Unlike in Columbus, Burke will get fired though so drafting Faksa won't help his cause. It's hard to speculate who would be available for trade at the draft, but if he is looking for help, you have Nash and what other high end player will be available. Desperate GMs make poor decisions when their job is on the line.

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After the lottery, if the Habs fall out of the top 3 I would give up the pick for a big center....I wont mention any names but you get the idea....

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Where do the flyers project to draft ? Around 20th ?

As a hab fan, Voracek and a pick around 20th isn't enticing enough for me.

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My point is that Brian Burke needs to make the playoffs next year, just like Howson needed to make the playoffs last year and overpaid for Carter. Unlike in Columbus, Burke will get fired though so drafting Faksa won't help his cause. It's hard to speculate who would be available for trade at the draft, but if he is looking for help, you have Nash and what other high end player will be available. Desperate GMs make poor decisions when their job is on the line.
Good thing Burke's not getting fired. Where are you getting your information from?

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Brian Burke is not on the hot seat? I was just assuming that four years out of the playoffs and potentially 3 straight years in the bottom 10 of the league would put tremedous pressue on him for next year in the Toronto market.

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Lol. I'm okay with getting rid of Burke if he's stupid enough to do this.
JVR is a young 20 goal scorer with size and immense potential. You won't get anyone at #8 better than him.

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The value of your proposal isn't too bad, but the bottom line is teams in the top 10 would only take Couturier or Schenn or add to their top 10 for Giroux.

For fun...Montreal offers 1st round pick (2nd overall) + Beaulieu for Giroux.

Quit being so greedy Philly fans, you guys are stacked enough with young talent.

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The value of your proposal isn't too bad, but the bottom line is teams in the top 10 would only take Couturier or Schenn or add to their top 10 for Giroux.

For fun...Montreal offers 1st round pick (2nd overall) + Beaulieu for Giroux.

Quit being so greedy Philly fans, you guys are stacked enough with young talent.
Im a HUGE habs fan and even I know that is just crazy talk right there...The Habs could throw everything of value they have and The Flyers would still say no.

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I would really love it if the flyers could get into a top 10 spot in the draft to try and get a crack at a guy like Griffin Reinhart.

Would a package like; Voracek + Flyers 1st be enough?
I don't think anyone is getting excited enough about Varachek to give up a crack at a top prospect. This guy has tools but can't put it together. I know if it's my top ten pick the word Vorachek makes me turn the other way. JVR, Coutourier, Schenn then I'm listening.

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