Dude, we've been mediocre for over a decade and are now sitting in last place. Apart from a few young players, there's not that much to be positive about right now.
It's just a game bud, and yes there is quite a few things to look forward to, without a doubt
1. We have no depth on the wings.
2. There aren't any great coaches looking for a job right now.
3. Kaberle will probably still be on the team.
4. Teams will have adjusted to Desharnais, he's going to have an even more uphill battle keeping up his development.
5. We probably won't have drafted Yakupov, and so if our pick is in the NHL they are probably being rushed.
How long do we give teams before they realise DD is the number 1 centre, because since January started he has 26 points in 26 games, was October through December not enough time for them to figure out how to stop him?
1. The Habs are getting bigger and tougher and this trend will continue.
2. The team is always about 20% better with Markov in the lineup, not to mention that Gionta will be back.
3. Subban will put the sophmore slump behind him.
4. Emelin, Eller and Weber (IMO) are coming into their own.
5. The Ghost or his successor will have cap room and a top 5 pick in this years draft.
1. Yea. If we can't get victories, at least we can get moral victories.
2. Who knows what we'll get in Markov
3. I think Subban's been playing better, but also have to keep in mind that he was asked to do more then he should have this year. Hopefully it pays off for his future since he's one of the main parts of the organizations future.
4. Emelin and Eller are coming into their own. Weber has been terrible all year
5. Cap space is only good if you can sign players, hard to think that UFA's will sign here after the disaster that has been this season unless we sorely overpay. I hope we don't go down this road again. We don't have a top 5 pick yet since there's a lot of games left, but personally I don't see anything to get all that excited for from this draft class although we'll find out a few years from now.
Wow a positive thread immediately turned into a negative right away damn. I'm sure if we went 82-0 plus won every playoff game and the cup people here would still find something to complain about.
My biggest complaint is people who don't know when they should be complaining.
I don't think he's stirring up the debate. We don't hire unilingual english coaches. Let's not go into crazy mode when someone says it, it's absolutely true. Doesn't mean that all french coaches are worst, and he didn't say anything of the sort.
RC is absolutely garbage. The good thing about that is that no matter who it is, it can't get worse.
but they were #1 and #2 reasons why we wont be all that good...
didnt use the exact words, but it's implied and it's obvious... lets not pretend otherwise, you're smarter than that. Come on now...
Markov is finished and Gio will be traded by the draft
Huh?
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Originally Posted by onemorecup
We are going nowhere with our midget as the #1 center
on 20 + teams he doesnt play period , cant do **** 5 on 5
I know what you mean, DD is plus-9 and only has 33 even strength points. Tied for # 54 in the league in that category with stiffs like Erik Staal and David Krejci, who I guess also could never be expected to be the # 1 centre on a Stanley Cup winning team because they can't do **** 5 on 5.
Oh wait, they both won the cup? Crap, there goes that argument.
I used to believe this but... I don't see how he comes back. There's just no possible way for management to justify it at this stage. I will be very surprised if he returns.
Wow a positive thread immediately turned into a negative right away damn. I'm sure if we went 82-0 plus won every playoff game and the cup people here would still find something to complain about.
How long do we give teams before they realise DD is the number 1 centre, because since January started he has 26 points in 26 games, was October through December not enough time for them to figure out how to stop him?
Perfect answer. I thought Desharnais had a... um... short shelf life, but the dude continues to learn and get stronger. He is the real deal and an amazing find. I was wrong about him and those who still dismiss him should admit they're wrong as well. I love the guy, and my wife thinks he's adorable and wishes she could carry him around in her pocket, though I'd rather not know what he'd be doing in there.
Despite the pessimism on this board, the Habs are looking much better then what some fans pretend.
I really like what Gauthier have done as of late. He's been stockpiling draft picks in the top 60 for the next 2 years and we have a chance to draft a true impact player this summer that might even be able to help as soon as next season.
For the majority of this season, we've been playing with a cap floor budget. Having Gionta, Markov and Gomez in/out of this line-up takes up to 33% of our cap space, UNUSED cap space.
Say Gomez is gone, which is probably going to happen this summer, we have all the necessary money to resign Price & Subban. With some secondary moves, like trading away Kaberle (because despite what some of you think, he still has some value), we have a large chunk of money (7 million or more) to spend on UFA's. Are we going to bring Parise and Suter in Montréal? Most probably not. But we can still fill out some of our roster with capable veterans.
We have one of the best goalies in the league. Don't let this season's average stats fool you, as soon as we get back Markov and Gauthier manages to install some form of stability to our blueline, he'll be back at the top.
There's a lot of young guys coming into their own lately, and we can only hope they improve for next season. We got a lot of quality prospects on defense that should be ready in a year or two, so we're pretty much set in that department.
Bottom line, I can see the Habs having another "tank" year next season, but not beyond that point. We have solid cornerstones and all we need is some more depth up front, something that should be accomplished via the draft. There's a lot of reasons to be optimistic. Say what you want, but Gauthier has turned, or is in the process of turning, this franchise around, in a good way. We've been relying on patchwork UFAs for so long to run this team, and this is exactly why we're in our current position. We're currently building from within and UFAs and trades have only been, up to this point, complimentary players, which is a good thing. We might draft a load of talent in the next two seasons... Just wait.
I used to believe this but... I don't see how he comes back. There's just no possible way for management to justify it at this stage. I will be very surprised if he returns.
I do believe that he go away if the habs manage to replace his cap with a top player (Weber, Parise)
Otherwise, I see him with the habs next season.
Despite the pessimism on this board, the Habs are looking much better then what some fans pretend.
I really like what Gauthier have done as of late. He's been stockpiling draft picks in the top 60 for the next 2 years and we have a chance to draft a true impact player this summer that might even be able to help as soon as next season.
For the majority of this season, we've been playing with a cap floor budget. Having Gionta, Markov and Gomez in/out of this line-up takes up to 33% of our cap space, UNUSED cap space.
Say Gomez is gone, which is probably going to happen this summer, we have all the necessary money to resign Price & Subban. With some secondary moves, like trading away Kaberle (because despite what some of you think, he still has some value), we have a large chunk of money (7 million or more) to spend on UFA's. Are we going to bring Parise and Suter in Montréal? Most probably not. But we can still fill out some of our roster with capable veterans.
We have one of the best goalies in the league. Don't let this season's average stats fool you, as soon as we get back Markov and Gauthier manages to install some form of stability to our blueline, he'll be back at the top.
There's a lot of young guys coming into their own lately, and we can only hope they improve for next season. We got a lot of quality prospects on defense that should be ready in a year or two, so we're pretty much set in that department.
Bottom line, I can see the Habs having another "tank" year next season, but not beyond that point. We have solid cornerstones and all we need is some more depth up front, something that should be accomplished via the draft. There's a lot of reasons to be optimistic. Say what you want, but Gauthier has turned, or is in the process of turning, this franchise around, in a good way. We've been relying on patchwork UFAs for so long to run this team, and this is exactly why we're in our current position. We're currently building from within and UFAs and trades have only been, up to this point, complimentary players, which is a good thing. We might draft a load of talent in the next two seasons... Just wait.
Personally I don't agree, we seem to be getting much worse not better. The D is a complete mess and while we have 3 or 4 interesting D prospects turning pro this summer, the concern is that we rush them because our D is so weak currently and unless Markov can come in and return to his old ways, or big changes are made to the blueline next year then I think it's to be expected for fans to be concerned.
Getting draft picks is nice but in what appears to be a weak draft it's not as exciting and these picks could be several years away from helping the team.
Having Gio and Markov back next season is good, what they do with Gomez and other problems are a concern though. Getting rid of Gomez/Kabs is not going to be easy imo unless the team is willing to bury them in the AHL or buy them out which depends on if the owner is willing to spend a ton of money on guys to play in the AHL since Gomez is owed 10M over 2 years and Kabs is owed 8.75 M over 2 years. Granted it would be great to be free of that hit but we'll see what happens.
I do think Price is one of the top goalies in the league but unless our D has a major upgrade, (which in part would be done if Markov is anything close to what he used to be) but still way way too soft to play against, then I wouldn't expect too much as Price can only do so much.
I used to believe this but... I don't see how he comes back. There's just no possible way for management to justify it at this stage. I will be very surprised if he returns.
I wish that I had as much faith as you.
I just dont know where Gomez will go. No one wants him after this disaster of a season so trading him will be next to impossible. And where my faith is lacking is with Molson. I dont think that he is willing to eat that contract.
If Molson fires Gauthier immediately at the end of the season, I will start to get my hopes up that Gomez will be gone as well. But if Gauthier is still here in July, we are stuck with Gomez.
I am about 60/40 with my thinking that Pierre will be here next year. That's just my gut feeling.
Dude, we've been mediocre for over a decade and are now sitting in last place. Apart from a few young players, there's not that much to be positive about right now.
If by decade you mean 19 years, yeah, I agree with you.
1. New french coach, picked on politics not ability.
2. New french GM, picked on politics not ability.
3. Molson will still be the owner.
4. Gomez.
5. Kaberle.
One reason this board will always be mostly insufferable : turdish monglo fans with limited intellectual capacities.
