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03-02-2012, 06:07 PM
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Take all their draft picks away this year and fine them big

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Drew Brees if he returns to Saints (Which he will) is gonna get a beating from opponents next year

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03-02-2012, 06:09 PM
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This also confirms how awful of a coach Gregg Williams is. Putting bounty on QB's and they still had a terrible pass rush blitzing on every damn play. Whatever Darren Sharper got for bounties, it wasn't enough.

Sean Payton coughed up $250K of his salary to bring Williams in, so I guess that's what it went toward.

Convenient that him doing it with the Redskins just happened to show up today.

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Drew Brees if he returns to Saints (Which he will) is gonna get a beating from opponents next year
Saints host the Super Bowl, so he's probably going to miss the whole season anyways.

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03-02-2012, 06:41 PM
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Feels like we're at a crossroads- you hear a lot of people saying we need to cut down on injuries/concussions, but others worry we're headed for flag football-type stuff.

Don't know what to think- not a fan of the bounty thing, but I fear this'll make both sides mad (Too many injuries! vs. Football's becoming too soft!)


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Feels like we're at a crossroads- you hear a lot of people saying we need to cut down on injuries/concussions, but others worry we're headed for flag football-type stuff.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

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If New Orleans is the only team doing this I'll eat the proverbial hat. They're just the ones that got caught.


I'm just confused how it wasn't Baltimore being the one getting caught. I guess they'd be too obvious a target.

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03-02-2012, 07:01 PM
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I fear that this is going to spur more changes into the NFL becoming soft.

After all, hard-hitting and all that stuff is such a bad thing to some. Why not put flags on everyone that way nobody gets hurt?

Let's just turn every game into a Pro Bowl. That'll make everyone happy- nobody gets hurt, no bounties, no injuries.

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I fear that this is going to spur more changes into the NFL becoming soft.

After all, hard-hitting and all that stuff is such a bad thing to some. Why not just put flags on everyone?

Let's just turn every game into a Pro Bowl. That'll make everyone happy- nobody gets hurt, no bounties, no injuries.
Hitting hard and trying to injure people are completely different things. This isn't like James Harrison trying to make a big hit and hitting someone in the head. Players and coaches were paying guys to intentionally hit other players in the head and also get them carted off the field.

Stop bringing up this flag football nonsense.

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His neck problems prompted his former coach, Tony Dungy, to pinpoint the moment of their origin: an Oct. 22, 2006, game against the Washington Redskins. Talking with Peter King on NBC’s NFL preview show Saturday night, Dungy recalled that Manning’s neck was wrenched and his helmet ripped off when he took a low hit by Andre Carter, followed by a high hit by Phillip Daniels.

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03-02-2012, 07:14 PM
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Bet you were one of those who said ''Pffft, yeah right'' whenever someone said that ''the Pats weren't the only team to ever steal defensive signals''.

Such ****ing hypocrisy. Love it.
There is "stealing signals" and then there is strategically placing cameras to try and gain the upper hand. Something of which I have never heard or seen before and haven't since.

Outside of the overreaction, having a bounty is hardly a shocking revelation. Having the owner, GM and agent involved does make it a bigger deal though.


Surprised no one has blamed this on Ndamukong Suh yet. Even though he was in College at the time

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03-02-2012, 07:22 PM
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They have always came a across as a dirty team to me in the Payton-Williams era. This just confirms it.

You can tell they were trying to kill Favre in the 2009 NFCCG.

With that being said if people think this doesn't happen around the league then they are being naive. The Saints were just dumb enough to get caught.

I'm sure this was much worse in the 70s and 80s.

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Ornstein was once Reggie Bush's marketing agent and is close friends with Saints coach Sean Payton. Ornstein spent time in prison for fraud and the Saints -- somewhat -- have cut ties with Ornstein.

But in 2009 Ornstein was a fixture around the Saints site. The NFL memo to teams state that then Ornstein pledged $10,000 towards the quarterback bounty in 2009.

Then, on at least two occasions in 2011, Ornstein again contributed to a bounty fund on an opposing quarterback.

The NFL memo also states there was a bounty paper trail. Ornstein put details of the bounty system in an e-mail to Payton, according to the NFL memo. In that e-mail, Ornstein committed $5,000 towards yet another bounty.
http://mike-freeman.blogs.cbssports....64363/35066335

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I honestly am surprised this is such a big deal. I thought this was pretty much unspoken commonplace throughout the league. I am no fan of the Saints but talk of stripping them of their draft picks and other stuff is a bit ridiculous.

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I honestly am surprised this is such a big deal. I thought this was pretty much unspoken commonplace throughout the league. I am no fan of the Saints but talk of stripping them of their draft picks and other stuff is a bit ridiculous.
You don't see anything wrong with intentionally hurting another player?

Football is a physical sport, and people are going to get hurt. But these are fathers and husbands.

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Good Read. RT @ProFootballTalk: Dungy: Titans had bounty on Peyton Manning wp.me/p14QSB-1pGI
If there's anything you can count on Goodell for, it's putting this bounty nonsense to an end. It may have been widespread in the past, but it's going to end now.

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Darren Sharper denies bounties

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Sharper never hit or tackled anybody so he probably wasn't invited to the bounty meetings.

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If New Orleans is the only team doing this I'll eat the proverbial hat. They're just the ones that got caught.


I'm just confused how it wasn't Baltimore being the one getting caught. I guess they'd be too obvious a target.
nah i dont think the ravens would do that.

sugar ray respects the game too much

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I honestly am surprised this is such a big deal. I thought this was pretty much unspoken commonplace throughout the league. I am no fan of the Saints but talk of stripping them of their draft picks and other stuff is a bit ridiculous.
If the Saints injured your golden boy Eli Manning because of a bounty that was put out on him, you would be arguing the exact opposite. And if you say you wouldn't, then you're just lying.

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So in that Chase commercial, is Brees paying bounties?

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I honestly am surprised this is such a big deal. I thought this was pretty much unspoken commonplace throughout the league. I am no fan of the Saints but talk of stripping them of their draft picks and other stuff is a bit ridiculous.
Agree.

The politically correct crowd is blowing this out of any reasonable proportion.

Same story breaks with the Steelers and it's not a story.

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If New Orleans is the only team doing this I'll eat the proverbial hat. They're just the ones that got caught.


I'm just confused how it wasn't Baltimore being the one getting caught. I guess they'd be too obvious a target.
You're a Steeler fan, no?

Dirtiest player in the league on either side of the ball in Harrison and Ward.

Lol.

I mean you cut Ward, but that's a hilarious case of throwing stones in a glass house.

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i love seeing guys on offense pancake or crack block the **** out of someone

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guys on d are just mad cause they can't catch

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