This is a peculiar record. I cannot remember a team that has consistently been involved in one goal games all season. IAE, when I see their scores I do not see a top 6 team.
10-1-2 in one goal games within their conference...to me that shows that while they are obviously good they are getting quite lucky as well. Also, something like that would tend to even out over time I would think.
Even though there was little movement in the ordinal rankings (but for UNB's jump back to #1), this was a transitional ranking. There are some significant changes in the OUA and AUS.
In the AUS, Saint Mary's returns to A, so once again the AUS has 5 teams at the A level. And in the OUA, UQTR moves from B to A level while Brock and Queen's move from C to B. These changes forced me to review loads of records since most teams had to have one or more results reclassified for these changes.
Saint Mary's have presented a rankings dilemma this year. I had them in A, and they lost enough to be dropped to B. That done, they start winning. Their promotion to A level likely means the start of a losing streak heading into the playoffs. They are only 5-7-1 against the A level. So a losing streak even now would make one say “Do they belong at that level?” However, they are 9-0-1 against the B and C teams.
One confounding statistic is that UPEI has the AUS's best record against A level teams (8-5-0). They also beat McGill twice. So why so little attention for them in the national rankings?
UQTR got behind the 8-ball with a non-stellar performance outside the conference. However, their consistent wins over B level conference rivals demands that they be ranked a cut above.
Queen's is 6-3-1 since Christmas break. That has brought them back where they were at the start of the season. They went 1-5-1 in a November swoon which had them on a downward trend the whole time. They are now solidly in that blob of OUA East teams that could go from 3rd to 9th.
Brock has had a good record against the A and B teams, but are only 6-5-1 against the C level. This has held them back in the rankings. But since Christmas they have beaten Lakehead, Waterloo, and the Urban Cowboys. So they will have a shot at the B level.
Ryerson was also under consideration for a promotion, but fell short with a two loss weekend. They are really on the brink of B-/C+. Their home stretch is Nipissing-Toronto-Queen's-Nipissing.
In minor adjustments, Lakehead loses a + (there are now no B+ teams), RMC gains a – (they are the only C- team), and Regina finally loses their + (they have long deserved a demotion but always plucked off a point somewhere to avoid it).
McGill's strong play at nationals last year make me think they should be above 7, but their two loses to UPEI who are 8th then make me feel they should be switched to 8 to put them behind PEI. Teams from 7-10 seem quite interchangeable and hard to rank. Spots 1 and 2 have become potentially interchangeable as well.
McGill's strong play at nationals last year make me think they should be above 7, but their two loses to UPEI who are 8th then make me feel they should be switched to 8 to put them behind PEI. Teams from 7-10 seem quite interchangeable and hard to rank. Spots 1 and 2 have become potentially interchangeable as well.
FWIW, I don't give weight to last year's results.
UPEI could be in for a ratings bump. I think they have been under-ranked in the national polls.
Feb. 3
Nipissing 9 Ryerson 3
St. Francis-Xavier 4 Moncton 3 - OT
New Brunswick 3 Acadia 2
UPEI 5 Dalhousie 2
Saint Mary's 8 St. Thomas 2
Concordia 4 McGill 2
Queen's 0 UQTR 3
Lakehead 4 Brock 2
UOIT 4 Windsor 7
Waterloo 1 Western Ontario 5
Lethbridge 3 Regina 4
UBC 2 Manitoba 3 - SO
Calgary 3 Saskatchewan 2 - OT
Feb. 4
Ottawa 5 Concordia 3
UPEI 6 Acadia 1
St. Francis-Xavier 3 St. Thomas 6
New Brunswick 2 Dalhousie 3
Saint Mary's 3 Moncton 2
Carleton 3 McGill 4
Lakehead 4 Western Ontario 7
Brock 2 Windsor 5
Toronto 2 Nipissing 1
Laurier 2 Guelph 3 - OT
Lethbridge 5 Regina 2
Calgary 3 Saskatchewan 3
UBC 3 Manitoba 5
Feb. 5
Toronto 1 Ryerson 6
So, amongst the AUS A teams, UNB loses to Dal, Moncton goes 0-1-1, and Acadia goes 0-2. At the same time both A- teams (UPEI and SMU) go 2-0. So now it becomes time to shuffle those rankings.
In the CW, Manitoba goes 2-0, Sask goes 0-1-1 (all against B level teams), and Alberta has the bye. In the OUA things were similar, as the Urban Cowboys go 2-0 whilst the McGilligutties go 1-1, with all games against B level teams.
So for everybody in the A's, other than Manitoba, Alberta, PEI, SMU, and UWO, the question was “how far will we fall?” The table shall speak.
Also of note, in the B level Nipissing loses their “–“ and Calgary (now 6-6 against A level teams) jumps to #12.
Since time is running out on the season, here is the remaining schedule:
Feb. 8
UPEI Moncton
St. Thomas UNB
Dalhousie StFX
McGill Concordia
Feb. 9
Western Ontario UOIT
Windsor Guelph
Ryerson Queen's
Feb. 10
Moncton St. Thomas
Dalhousie Acadia
UNB UPEI
Saint Mary's StFX
UQTR Carleton
McGill Ottawa
Guelph York
Nipissing Ryerson
Brock Lakehead
Laurier Waterloo
RMC Toronto
Alberta Regina
Manitoba Calgary
Saskatchewan UBC
Feb. 11
UOIT Laurier
Concordia Carleton
Moncton UNB
Acadia Saint Mary's
St. Thomas UPEI
StFX Dalhousie
UQTR Ottawa
Toronto RMC
York Western Ontario
Waterloo Windsor
Brock Lakehead
Queen's Nipissing
Alberta Regina
Manitoba Calgary
Saskatchewan UBC
Feb. 17
Regina Saskatchewan
UBC Manitoba
Lethbridge Alberta
Feb. 18
UBC Manitoba
Saskatchewan Regina
Lethbridge Alberta
The New Brunswick loss to Dalhousie was actually a shoot-out loss. Therefore, I will have to issue a revised table. I relied upon the CIS site for my information on the AUS and OUA results and I believe that they did not issue revisions until Monday.
Had I obtained this information, UNB would have just edged past Manitoba for #1 ranking. Just goes to show how close the top five in the AUS and the top three in the CW really are.
The New Brunswick loss to Dalhousie was actually a shoot-out loss. Therefore, I will have to issue a revised table. I relied upon the CIS site for my information on the AUS and OUA results and I believe that they did not issue revisions until Monday.
Had I obtained this information, UNB would have just edged past Manitoba for #1 ranking. Just goes to show how close the top five in the AUS and the top three in the CW really are.
Does someone know what the makeup of the 2013 and 2014 national championships will be in Saskatoon? Will there by 2 CW teams in both years? or will 1 year feature 3 CW teams with the wild card? i can't remember that ever happening before.
Does someone know what the makeup of the 2013 and 2014 national championships will be in Saskatoon? Will there by 2 CW teams in both years? or will 1 year feature 3 CW teams with the wild card? i can't remember that ever happening before.
Ched, it did happen at least twice if my memory serves me: once in Saskatoon where the host U of S Huskies were joined by the Alberta Golden Bears and Calgary Dinos. It also happened in Edmonton, where the host Golden Bears were accompanied by the Huskies as well as the Manitoba Bisons.
. . . But I don't think it's supposed to happen again, from what I understand.
. . . My own personal feeling on this is that, if they continue with this six-team format, there should be two teams apiece yearly from the AUS, Canada West and OUA. Screw the rotation.
IIRC the rotating wildcard thing ended during one of the years Lakehead hosted the tournament...the OUA was due to have four entries that year (Lakehead, Wild card, two regular spots)....now the wild card is given to the two conferences who aren't hosting it. So the two years UNB (AUS) has been hosting it CW got the wild card last year and the OUA gets it this year. When Saskatchewan has it for the next two years the AUS will get the extra spot one year (making it 2/2/2) and the OUA will get it the other (making it 2 CW/1 AUS/3 OUA). In other words, the host and wild card can't be from the same conference. Atleast that's how I believe it is going to work.
IIRC the rotating wildcard thing ended during one of the years Lakehead hosted the tournament...the OUA was due to have four entries that year (Lakehead, Wild card, two regular spots)....now the wild card is given to the two conferences who aren't hosting it. So the two years UNB (AUS) has been hosting it CW got the wild card last year and the OUA gets it this year. When Saskatchewan has it for the next two years the AUS will get the extra spot one year (making it 2/2/2) and the OUA will get it the other (making it 2 CW/1 AUS/3 OUA). In other words, the host and wild card can't be from the same conference. Atleast that's how I believe it is going to work.
That's it.
IMO, they should go to an 8-team format like volleyball and basketball. Two teams from each plus a host and a wild-card (not from the host conference).
IMO, they should go to an 8-team format like volleyball and basketball. Two teams from each plus a host and a wild-card (not from the host conference).
I really like this suggestion Hollywood. How soon can you make it happen?
Feb. 10
Moncton 4 St. Thomas 3 - OT
Dalhousie 2 Acadia 4
UNB 4 UPEI 1
Saint Mary's 4 StFX 5 - 2OT
UQTR 3 Carleton 6
McGill 3 Ottawa 2
Guelph 3 York 5
Ryerson 3 Nipissing 4
Brock 2 Lakehead 4
Laurier 2 Waterloo 4
RMC 0 Toronto 6
Manitoba 4 Calgary 5 – OT
Alberta 6 Regina 2
Saskatchewan 5 UBC 4
Feb. 11
St. Thomas 0 UPEI 5
UOIT 2 Laurier 3
Concordia 0 Carleton 7
Moncton 1 UNB 4
Acadia 0 Saint Mary's 2
StFX 5 Dalhousie 4
UQTR 5 Ottawa 3
Toronto 3 RMC 1
York 2 Western Ontario 1
Waterloo 3 Windsor 6
Brock 4 Lakehead 6
Nipissing 6 Queen's 4
Manitoba 1 Calgary 0 – SO
Alberta 4 Regina 3 - SO
Saskatchewan 5 UBC 0
Now, the two big changes are Ryerson finally goes from C to B and Brock goes back from B to C. Those category shifts involved some recalculation of records across the board in the OUA. On minor shifts within the levels, Moncton and McGill go up from A- to A; Calgary, Lakehead, and Nipissing all move up into the recreated B+; and Toronto and Ottawa are up from B- to B. One point: How did Ryerson get outscored 85-102?
Feb. 10
Moncton 4 St. Thomas 3 - OT
Dalhousie 2 Acadia 4
UNB 4 UPEI 1
Saint Mary's 4 StFX 5 - 2OT
UQTR 3 Carleton 6
McGill 3 Ottawa 2
Guelph 3 York 5
Ryerson 3 Nipissing 4
Brock 2 Lakehead 4
Laurier 2 Waterloo 4
RMC 0 Toronto 6
Manitoba 4 Calgary 5 – OT
Alberta 6 Regina 2
Saskatchewan 5 UBC 4
Feb. 11
St. Thomas 0 UPEI 5
UOIT 2 Laurier 3
Concordia 0 Carleton 7
Moncton 1 UNB 4
Acadia 0 Saint Mary's 2
StFX 5 Dalhousie 4
UQTR 5 Ottawa 3
Toronto 3 RMC 1
York 2 Western Ontario 1
Waterloo 3 Windsor 6
Brock 4 Lakehead 6
Nipissing 6 Queen's 4
Manitoba 1 Calgary 0 – SO
Alberta 4 Regina 3 - SO
Saskatchewan 5 UBC 0
Now, the two big changes are Ryerson finally goes from C to B and Brock goes back from B to C. Those category shifts involved some recalculation of records across the board in the OUA. On minor shifts within the levels, Moncton and McGill go up from A- to A; Calgary, Lakehead, and Nipissing all move up into the recreated B+; and Toronto and Ottawa are up from B- to B. One point: How did Ryerson get outscored 85-102?
I just looked at the OUA website and it is Queen's and McGill.
If Queen's gets the nod I assume that +/- in head-to-head is in priority to +/- on the season as a tie-breaker
The AUS is the same. SMU and UdeM were tied in points and head-to-head results going into the final game, but SMU had the tie breaker based on +/- with UdeM. If they had both lost their last game, SMU would have gotten the higher placing.
I just looked at the OUA website and it is Queen's and McGill.
If Queen's gets the nod I assume that +/- in head-to-head is in priority to +/- on the season as a tie-breaker
The AUS is the same. SMU and UdeM were tied in points and head-to-head results going into the final game, but SMU had the tie breaker based on +/- with UdeM. If they had both lost their last game, SMU would have gotten the higher placing.
Queen's beat out Concordia based on their 10 goals to 8 in head to head.
As everybody reading this is well aware, the playoffs have started out east as the CW regular season, and thus the CIS regular season, came to an end. In the end the favourites all claimed four points. The effect on the national rankings was minimal, with only Sask moving up one place at the expense of Moncton and Regina slipping one place behind Laurier. Please note that this ranking does not include any playoff results.
Here are the weekly results:
Feb. 17
Regina 1 Saskatchewan 8
UBC 1 Manitoba 3
Lethbridge 3 Alberta 7
Feb. 18
UBC 4 Manitoba 5 - OT
Saskatchewan 4 Regina 1
Lethbridge 3 Alberta 6
This week I have added a new column for each team's playoff record. However, I have not altered any rankings. Here are the scores for the added results:
I was getting ready for the upcoming season and going over the 2011-12 results and thought a final wrap-up which includes post-season results was in order. The result was that McGill gets #1 for winning the tournament, the Urban Cowboys bump from A- to A, Calgary jumps from B+ to A- (after a season-long roller coaster between the categories), and Windsor goes from C+ to B-.
Feb. 29
New Brunswick 3 UPEI 2 - OT
Saint Mary's 1 Moncton 6
UQTR 3 McGill 5
Windsor 4 Western Ontario 3
Mar. 2
Western Ontario 5 Windsor 2
Calgary 2 Manitoba 1
Saskatchewan 3 Alberta 7
Mar. 3
Saint Mary's 1 Moncton 2
McGill 5 UQTR 4 - 2OT
Calgary 4 Manitoba 3 - OT
Saskatchewan 3 Alberta 2 - OT
Mar. 4
Windsor 0 Western Ontario 2
Saskatchewan 4 Alberta 3 - OT
Mar. 7
Moncton 3 New Brunswick
Mar. 8
Moncton 2 New Brunswick 4
Mar. 9
Calgary 2 Saskatchewan 1 - OT
Mar. 10
McGill 4 Western Ontario 1
Calgary 1 Saskatchewan 4
Mar. 11
Windsor 3 UQTR 5
New Brunswick 4 Moncton 0
Calgary 1 Saskatchewan 2 - 3OT
Mar. 22
McGill 6 Moncton 3
New Brunswick 6 UQTR 1
Mar. 23
Moncton 5 Saskatchewan 1
UQTR 2 Western Ontario 3 Final - OT
Mar. 24 Saskatchewan 4 McGill 3
Western Ontario 3 New Brunswick 2
