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03-04-2012, 10:35 PM
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Unofficial Rumor/Proposal Thread. Status: Offseason recon

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Agreed. As bad as our defence has been our goaltending has yielded goals that have absolutely no business going in on far too many occasions. It's completely deflating for a young team.

Oilbleeder,

I understand what you're saying but I think that the defence and the goaltending have to take their fair share of the blame this year. With the NHL reverting back to pre-lockout rules in an attempt to slow the game down we can't really afford back breaking, deflating goals against when we'll be hard pressed for PP opportunities.
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Hell no!!! Only Oilers faithful place that much value on Hemsky. This contract will end up biting the Oilers in the butt especially if Hemsky continues playing the way he has during the duration of his contract. Just imagine how much value this puts on Ebs, Hall, RNH and even Gagner when they become RFA's.
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Just imagine how much value they'd demand if they had no secondary scoring to help them and all of the team's offence was placed on their shoulders...
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The hell? Hemsky has been playing great.
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Just like they didn't put their last Captain on waivers with the intention to buy him out?

I think they will buy him out in June of 2013. That is the only time that makes sense to do it, not this summer.
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There's a possibility of a trade first. One of those teams that throws money around every summer just to make the cap floor ought to be interested.
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Are we actually believeing what management is saying about personnel moves these days?

This isn't Lowe anymore, where he would blurt out the first thing that came to mind regardless of whether it was the unabashed truth or a blatant lie (and you could often guess which one it was).

Tambellini has a habit of setting low expectations, so when he makes major moves it looks positive. It started in free agency last summer and it continued into the trade deadline this year. My bet is that he'll address goaltending this summer.
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According to the press the Oilers/Tambo weren't going to make any moves at the trade deadline...
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yes, his goal scoring prowess as an elite paid offensive player is displayed nightly.
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since when have playmakers been judged by goal scoring? Ryan Jones has the same number of goals as Joe Thornton
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Im post 1000, that is all
Continue here gang.

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03-04-2012, 10:45 PM
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Let's target Clowe and Burns in a blockbuster. What would that take?

MPS
Gagner
Musil
Whitney

close? not enough?

what about this...

Clowe
Burns

for

2012 1st round pick

would u do it? would the Sharks do it?

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03-04-2012, 11:06 PM
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Let's target Clowe and Burns in a blockbuster. What would that take?

MPS
Gagner
Musil
Whitney

close? not enough?

what about this...

Clowe
Burns

for

2012 1st round pick

would u do it? would the Sharks do it?
I would always take one exceptional player and his ~7m salary than two pretty good players and their combined ~9m salary. The game breaking talent helps in a way that good players can't produce as consistently.

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03-05-2012, 12:12 AM
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I would always take one exceptional player and his ~7m salary than two pretty good players and their combined ~9m salary. The game breaking talent helps in a way that good players can't produce as consistently.
But other than Nail, who knows if anyone else in this draft is "exceptional". Especially the dmen.

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03-05-2012, 10:55 AM
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If they somehow win the lottery and get a 1st overall again;
Gagner, Peckham and a pick to Phoenix for Gormley.and a pick
convert Ebs to center.
trade/waive Dubnyk/sign Montoya.

Hall-Hopkins-Yakupov
Paajarvi-Eberle-Hemsky
Smyth-Horcoff-Omark/Eager
Lander-Belanger-Petrell/Eager

Smid-Petry
Gormley-Schultz
Whitney-Sutton

Montoya
Khabibulin

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03-05-2012, 11:41 AM
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My Dream Offseason:

Trade 1-
To
PK Subban

To
Theo Peckham
Eric Belanger
2nd Round Selection in 2013

Trade 2-
To
Ryan Miller

To
Nik Khabbibulin
Ben Eager
Linus Omark
3rd Round Selection in 2012

Trade 3-
To
Petr Mrazek

To
Taylor Chorney
Alex Plante



Resign -
Sam Gagner, 4yrs at $3.75MM per
Cam Barker, 1yr at $1.30MM
Ryan Smyth, 2yrs at $3.00MM per
PK Subban, 4yrs at $3.50MM per
Devan Dubnyk, 2yrs at $1.00MM per
Jeff Petry, 3yrs at $1.3MM per
Lennert Petrell, 2yrs at $950k per
Darcy Hordichuck 2yrs at $900k


Draft (in order regardless of pick number) -
First Round: Yakupov/Murray/Dumba/Reinhart
Second Round: Pearson/Sissons/Dansk


Lineup

Hall ($3.75MM) - RNH ($3.775MM) - Eberle ($1.158MM)
Smyth ($3MM) - Gagner ($3.75MM)- Hemsky ($5MM)
MPS ($1.525MM)- Lander ($900k)- Jones ($1.5MM)
Petrell ($950k) - Horcoff ($5.5MM) - Hordichuk ($900k)

Subban ($3.5MM)- Schultz ($3.5MM)
Smid ($2.25MM) - Whitney ($4MM)
Petry ($1.3MM) - Barker ($1.3MM)
Sutton ($1.75MM)

Miller (6.25MM)
Dubnyk ($1MM)

Cap: $64.3 Million
Total: $56.56 Million
Cap Space: $7.7 Million

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You're essentially giving up a 2nd for Subban, a 3rd for Miller and nothing for Mrazek.

Yikes.

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03-05-2012, 11:46 AM
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I can't see any of those teams accepting those deals

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That's why it's a dream fellas. In dreamland you can fleece!

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As noted above, you can't really trade spare parts for all-star calibre players. A fine dream though.

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As noted above, you can't really trade spare parts for all-star calibre players. A fine dream though.
Unless we use Jedi powers!

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That's why it's a dream fellas. In dreamland you can fleece!
Apparently Cam Barker the most. You don't qualify him then you somehow signed him for even less. Even though on second thought I'd have to say Cam Barker still fleeces the Oil by making that much.

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Who do you think San Jose wish they had right now for their playoff run?

Havlat, Heatley or Michalek?

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Who do you think San Jose wish they had right now for their playoff run?

Havlat, Heatley or Michalek?
Cheechoo.

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Cheechoo.
Looking at the debacle that was Danny Heatey, every time he gets traded he is the man yet he somehow end up being traded for someone who is better.

Although the latest one is probably debatable.

Where I'm going with this is that also in hindsite I'm glad that Heatley deal fell through. We shouldn't be booing Danny we should be applauding him.

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I'm really warming up to signing D Jason Garrison from Florida. From the game I saw yesterday, he can play as a RHD effectively.

He's 27, played tough minutes this year and last year, and has done it well.

A 2-3 year deal worth $3-3.25M/yr deal would be good for both parties.

Physical, decent stretch pass, has a good shot that could be used on the PP and good defensively.

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2 All-Stars (one a recent Vezina winner) and argueably the top goalie prospect in the world.......and the best asset we give up is a 2nd round pick....right.

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I'm really warming up to signing D Jason Garrison from Florida. From the game I saw yesterday, he can play as a RHD effectively.

He's 27, played tough minutes this year and last year, and has done it well.

A 2-3 year deal worth $3-3.25M/yr deal would be good for both parties.

Physical, decent stretch pass, has a good shot that could be used on the PP and good defensively.
I bet he's gonna be looking to cash in on his great year...someone will give him 4 mill+ and I hope its not us.

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I'm really warming up to signing D Jason Garrison from Florida. From the game I saw yesterday, he can play as a RHD effectively.

He's 27, played tough minutes this year and last year, and has done it well.

A 2-3 year deal worth $3-3.25M/yr deal would be good for both parties.

Physical, decent stretch pass, has a good shot that could be used on the PP and good defensively.
I havent watched him play at all so I really have zero opinion right now but doesnt playing in that division help his numbers and playing ability? I'm sure most remember thinking Bouwmeester could become a Norris winner if he left.

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I bet he's gonna be looking to cash in on his great year...someone will give him 4 mill+ and I hope its not us.
Well it's only this year and last year he's been super effective. If someone is willing to give $4M/yr for 2 good seasons (Helllllooooo CBJ), then your right, I hope it's not us.

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I havent watched him play at all so I really have zero opinion right now but doesnt playing in that division help his numbers and playing ability? I'm sure most remember thinking Bouwmeester could become a Norris winner if he left.
Bouwmeester can still play outstanding D. His division did nothing in that sense. His offense? Yeah the division did inflate those number a bit but I also think he didn't develop enough in that area.

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Looking at the debacle that was Danny Heatey, every time he gets traded he is the man yet he somehow end up being traded for someone who is better.

Although the latest one is probably debatable.

Where I'm going with this is that also in hindsite I'm glad that Heatley deal fell through. We shouldn't be booing Danny we should be applauding him.
Yeah, basically Smid, Teubert, Klefbom, 2nd and 3rd is what we would have given up for Heatley.



So glad that never happened.

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I'm really warming up to signing D Jason Garrison from Florida. From the game I saw yesterday, he can play as a RHD effectively.

He's 27, played tough minutes this year and last year, and has done it well.

A 2-3 year deal worth $3-3.25M/yr deal would be good for both parties.

Physical, decent stretch pass, has a good shot that could be used on the PP and good defensively.
If we can't land a legit top pairing guy, he would be a good option to go after.

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I bet he's gonna be looking to cash in on his great year...someone will give him 4 mill+ and I hope its not us.
That was the talk to why FLO was thinking of moving him. Looking for 4+.

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That's why it's a dream fellas. In dreamland you can fleece!
Interesting... In that case:

Stamkos-Malkin-Crobsy
Zetterberg-Toews-Giroux
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Benn-Couturier-Couture

Pietrangelo-Letang
OEL-Larsson
Karlsson-Carlson

Quick
Smith

It works under the cap

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Interesting... In that case:

Stamkos-Malkin-Crobsy
Zetterberg-Toews-Giroux
Hall-RNH-Eberle
Benn-Couturier-Couture

Pietrangelo-Letang
OEL-Larsson
Karlsson-Carlson


Quick
Smith

It works under the cap
We have ourselves a fan of alliteration here.

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