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02-14-2012, 12:02 PM
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Tanguay - Saku - Kovy was a beast line....for the 10 games they were left together

Carbo and his line juggling
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that line was great playing together


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that line was great playing together

Did i just count at least 15 point for that line ? OMG

I want Kovy back

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Another little update...

AK27/Plek/AK46: 206 pts, 113 ES pts, +48, 222 hits

Cole/DD/Pacs: 146 pts, 107 ES pts, +15, 265 hits

No fluke anymore!!!

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03-05-2012, 05:40 PM
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LOL, We've had a few better lines over the last few years. Another typical "of the moment" Hab fan thread.

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03-05-2012, 05:45 PM
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The AK-Plek-Kovy line was >>>>

That being said, Max and DD have both progressed very nicely the last 2 years so we should be confident in them to maintain this type of production at the very least.

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The AK-Plek-Kovy line was >>>>

That being said, Max and DD have both progressed very nicely the last 2 years so we should be confident in them to maintain this type of production at the very least.
Not by much...
The DD line is outscoring them at ES and they don't have Markov on the PP.

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Not by much...
The DD line is outscoring them at ES and they don't have Markov on the PP.
Ya thats true. Two very different styles being played by these lines too though. I don't think they would ever have same success on the PP like Kovy. DD is the one setting things up but he can't one time it when PK gives it back to him which limits the options.

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03-05-2012, 06:13 PM
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if this is our top line or best line , we are FKED BIG TIME if you want to compete for anything

Cole is 34 not 24 so he is not in our long term plans
Short term then? Still our best line in the short term...

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the midget is a filler on 25 other teams but plays for a bad team like us
So he's a good player for us. Correct?

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Max is the only legit player I can work with moving forward

remember folks its about winning something , not just stats
Then how can you include Pacioretty in the list of players you can work with and not include DD?

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look how the Flyers ripped off the Kings and Jackets in the Carter /Richards trades

2 players who have seen thier best days , its all about timing and making theright moves

too bad our retarded GM might be a buyer in 2 weeks when he should be selling
So trade our top scorers? And in the case of DD, according to you, we do this because he's only a good player on a bad team? So why would we get anything more than a potato in a trade? I think DD can score more points and goals than a potato...

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Not by much...
The DD line is outscoring them at ES and they don't have Markov on the PP.
Give me a break. That line is far and away better than the DD line. Anyone who watches the game and doesn't look solely at stats can see that. Some forget just how potent that line was.

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03-05-2012, 06:17 PM
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Give me a break. That line is far and away better than the DD line. Anyone who watches the game and doesn't look solely at stats can see that. Some forget just how potent that line was.
Some feel their opinions are more valid than other posters opinions.

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03-05-2012, 06:20 PM
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It's easy to look good when the rest of the team sucks.

They are performing admirably, but they have to, or we would be worse than Columbus.

Another great line was Zednik-Koivu-Kovalev in the playoffs.

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03-05-2012, 06:23 PM
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Another little update...

AK27/Plek/AK46: 206 pts, 113 ES pts, +48, 222 hits

Cole/DD/Pacs: 146 pts, 107 ES pts, +15, 265 hits

No fluke anymore!!!
Cole has 165 of those hits.

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Cole has 165 of those hits.
I want to see the cole cole cole line

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I'll take the Cole-DD-Patch line in the playoff's anytime before that AK-Plek-Kovalev. It has way more heart and is much grittier. AK-Pleks-Kov are a bunch of soft players

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Actually, Carbo was fired when that happened. Gainey was the one who put them together.

They played together only when Tanguay came back from injury with 16 games to play in the season (earlier, it was Pleky-Kovy and Koivu-Tanguay). But they indeed were great.

But then, Gainey decided to play Laraque on the first line in the playoffs against Boston. Laraque with more than 13min of play in the playoffs...
Such an epic collapse at the end of the season that year and it was 100% on Gainey. Carbo was finally turning the losing streak around and Gainey fires him

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I'll take the Cole-DD-Patch line in the playoff's anytime before that AK-Plek-Kovalev. It has way more heart and is much grittier. AK-Pleks-Kov are a bunch of soft players
Umm, one of these things is not like the others come playoff time...

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Some feel their opinions are more valid than other posters opinions.
This is gonna hurt some people with opinions, but sometimes, some opinions are "better" than others. Opinions supported by more information and less feelings/emotions, for example, are actually "better"; not just "different".

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This is gonna hurt some people with opinions, but sometimes, some opinions are "better" than others. Opinions supported by more information and less feelings/emotions, for example, are actually "better"; not just "different".

If someones opinion is better to you that still doesn't mean it is anymore right. You could be completely wrong on both accounts. Spinning the same opinion 4 different ways with stats or "information" doesn't make your opinion right, stats need context. Blind sheep leading blind sheep = lost herd.

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If someones opinion is better to you that still doesn't mean it is anymore right. You could be completely wrong on both accounts. Spinning the same opinion 4 different ways with stats or "information" doesn't make your opinion right, stats need context. Blind sheep leading blind sheep = lost herd.
Yes it does. Someone could have the opinion that Marek Malik is a better goal scorer than Cole, and they might even say it's because Malik has scored a through-the-legs shootout goal and Cole hasn't. If scoring "better" goals is indicative to that person of "better" goal scoring, you can see the "validity" in their thought process, but they're obviously, and categorically, wrong about that one, for example.

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Yes it does. Someone could have the opinion that Marek Malik is a better goal scorer than Cole, and they might even say it's because Malik has scored a through-the-legs shootout goal and Cole hasn't. If scoring "better" goals is indicative to that person of "better" goal scoring, you can see the "validity" in their thought process, but they're obviously, and categorically, wrong about that one, for example.
what the...

the question is "best line in a long time"? yes. you'd have to go back to what, 2008? 2007?

and you have to be seriously blinded by 5'7 of hate to not see that a line that will score more even strength point, but less point point total since the whole team has been missing a powerplay quarterback for the whole season, can at least be in the same conversation for "best line in a long time" as the AK27/Plek/AK46

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what the...

the question is "best line in a long time"? yes. you'd have to go back to what, 2008? 2007?

and you have to be seriously blinded by 5'7 of hate to not see that a line that will score more even strength point, but less point point total since the whole team has been missing a powerplay quarterback for the whole season, can at least be in the same conversation for "best line in a long time" as the AK27/Plek/AK46
2009, actually. AK27-Pleks-AK46 was the most used line combination of the entire 2008-2009 season. That's why a couple of us are scoffing at the impression that some people have that just over two seasons ago is a "long time", lol. We had one of those lines until the end of April 2009, and we saw the other starting roughly November/December of 2011.

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People still want to **** on DD no matter how he plays. DD and company shows up game after game, more than we can say for guys like AK and plek. When the going gets tough and the game is on the line, plek starts his girly game.

A lot of people just go on and on about Eller, he's already rated a first class player by some people around the board, well DD got more points in the first 60 games this season then Eller has in over 160 nhl games.

So lets show some love for DD, if the road runner could play a big man's game. so can DD

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Give me a break. That line is far and away better than the DD line. Anyone who watches the game and doesn't look solely at stats can see that. Some forget just how potent that line was.
I watched the games back then and both lines are dominant. The AK line was more skilled so that's why people are under the impression that it's not close... when in fact, the DD line is just as effective... without Markov.

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Long time?

It should be noted that, to this point, that line has been almost exactly as "productive/effective" at even strength as Cammy-Pleks-A.Kost from last year.

296 mins together, +6 EV strength (+1.2/60 EV mins together)
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320 mins together, +7 EV strength (+1.3/60 EV mins together)
That was also the team's principle matchup line too, unlike 67-51-72 which tends to get more shelter.

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I watched the games back then and both lines are dominant. The AK line was more skilled so that's why people are under the impression that it's not close... when in fact, the DD line is just as effective... without Markov.
That's your opinion. I disagree.

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