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03-06-2012, 03:01 PM
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If Gomez was on re-entry?

If we waived Gomez I'd assume nobody would claim him. But if we put him on Re-entry waivers would there be anybody that might take a chance on claiming him at a 50% less cap hit?

Also, Do you think it is a possibility for next season to do this?

I know there are lots of threads on sending him to the AHL, sorry to be repetitive.


Edit: This is assuming management wants him on the team next season.


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we would be stupid to do this, only Molson would win out of this, Habs wouldn't get better having a 3.5 cap space being used by a player that isn't even on the roster

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we would be stupid to do this, only Molson would win out of this, Habs wouldn't get better having a 3.5 cap space being used by a player that isn't even on the roster
So it's smarter to have $7+ mil on the books?

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we would be stupid to do this, only Molson would win out of this, Habs wouldn't get better having a 3.5 cap space being used by a player that isn't even on the roster
It wouldn't be "stupid" but it would be cheap of Molson to do, would rather just have him pay the other $5 million in actual salary and send him to the minors or Alaska or anywhere to get off this team.

If Molson is against sending him to the minors I'd rather have another player at $3.65 mill a year than Gomez at $7.3 mill.

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So it's smarter to have $7+ mil on the books?
No. It's better to wait out the year and hope there's a clause in place with the new CBA (like there was last time around), allowing us to buy him out, whithout taking a cap hit for it. If not, I'd say buy him out anyways. Cap hit would be less than a re-entry claim

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If we waived Gomez I'd assume nobody would claim him. But if we put him on Re-entry waivers would there be anybody that might take a chance on claiming him at a 50% less cap hit?

Also, Do you think it is a possibility for next season to do this?

I know there are lots of threads on sending him to the AHL, sorry to be repetitive.


Edit: This is assuming management wants him on the team next season.
Not gonna happen.

I see one of 2 scenarios happening.

1-he gets traded for another bad contract(see Campbell trade) and that player ends up in the AHL

2-Gomez get waived and either gets picked(slim chance) or spends the year in a lower league.

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So it's smarter to have $7+ mil on the books?
No if we can't trade him then send him down to Hamilton for good, no re-entry

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It wouldn't be "stupid" but it would be cheap of Molson to do, would rather just have him pay the other $5 million in actual salary and send him to the minors or Alaska or anywhere to get off this team.

If Molson is against sending him to the minors I'd rather have another player at $3.65 mill a year than Gomez at $7.3 mill.
question is wether or not Molson is willing to spend the 10-12M$ to pay gomez's salary in the minors (5/4M$) & subsequently freeing up the GM to spend the 7.4M$ in freed up cap space elsewhere in the roster.


for how much money the team makes, and how much better the on-ice product could/should be by being able to use that 7.4M$ more effectively (thus making playoffs more likely/attainable), it should be a "no-brainer"...

but ~7M$ is a lot of money, and he may just prefer to deal with the fan backlash while hoping Gomez finds a way to be at least relatively useful or that his GM can find a way to move him to another team.

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So it's smarter to have $7+ mil on the books?
The 7 million cap hit disappeared when you waived him the first time...

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question is wether or not Molson is willing to spend the 10-12M$ to pay gomez's salary in the minors (5/4M$) & subsequently freeing up the GM to spend the 7.4M$ in freed up cap space elsewhere in the roster.


for how much money the team makes, and how much better the on-ice product could/should be by being able to use that 7.4M$ more effectively (thus making playoffs more likely/attainable), it should be a "no-brainer"...

but ~7M$ is a lot of money, and he may just prefer to deal with the fan backlash while hoping Gomez finds a way to be at least relatively useful or that his GM can find a way to move him to another team.
Gomez only costs the team 10 mil over 2 years to "bury", not 7+ mil x 2.

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Gomez only costs the team 10 mil over 2 years to "bury", not 7+ mil x 2.
yes, he cost 10M over 2 years to bury, but if the team then spends the freed up cap space, the owner is looking at spending up to 24M$ over the 2 years (or 10-12M$/season).

no necessity of the team to spend up to the cap, of course, but in that case an argument could be made to simply keep him on the roster as a 4th liner. No point in burying him in the minors if it's not to then be proactive with the cap space opened up.

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the islanders were willing to trade for him!!!!

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...r-scott-gomez/

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the islanders were willing to trade for him!!!!

http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...r-scott-gomez/
https://twitter.com/#!/habsinsideout...86080267456513

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As for #Habs Gomez killing a trade to Islanders, as per a media report? Gomez tells me "I never heard of any deal"
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I doubt that he would even get any interest on re-entry waivers.

Even at three and a half he's overpaid.

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take him for a drive in the country and just let him go

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He's on my EHM team.

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Wish the Habs had that top9

*I had a Ryan-Crosby-Hossa line in the playoffs. Was pretty slick to say the least.

Now back to reality I think the only way Crosby isn't resigned by the Pens is if his health problems are even worse than anticipated. If he's FA next year I hope the Habs throw the millions to sign him and waive/trade whoever is necessary to make this possible.

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I doubt that he would even get any interest on re-entry waivers.

Even at three and a half he's overpaid.
1/3 of the teams in the NHL look at salary and don't care about cap hit since they only spend to the floor. I can guarantee Gomez would find a taker on re-entry waivers, I don't see it as a smart move for the Habs though.

Even from a financial standpoint it's better to bury Gomez and use his cap hit on a good player(or players) that will get us back in the playoffs, bringing in much more than the 5.5 mil he makes next year.

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2.5 mil average for a potential 2nd line center? Yah, teams would take that. Hell, we say we want the whole caphit free. For what? Are we contenders?

Nashville has a ton of capspace and they are competitive. Our ability to spend to the cap is a bonus, but if we can't be competitive when we're not at cap, i'd rather not spend on vet fillers.

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If we waived Gomez I'd assume nobody would claim him. But if we put him on Re-entry waivers would there be anybody that might take a chance on claiming him at a 50% less cap hit?

Also, Do you think it is a possibility for next season to do this?

I know there are lots of threads on sending him to the AHL, sorry to be repetitive.


Edit: This is assuming management wants him on the team next season.
re-entry waivers is the way to go

Molson wont eat 7 mil to Hamilton

3.5 mil is not bad both teams

we dont need another dumb ass contract coming back

folks there is nothing wrong with Gomez

he is in the wrong situation for the wrong team

you put on him on a solid insulated team like Chicago where they might need a second line center he will do well

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Gomez on Re-entry?

Kinda like Apollo 13 but in reverse. People holding their breath that he DOESN'T make it home.

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I don't believe the rumors that the Islanders wanted him. He wouldn't be THAT stupid. Would he?

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I don't believe the rumors that the Islanders wanted him. He wouldn't be THAT stupid. Would he?
last year the argument could have easily been made for a slump, or chemistry issue or whatever

now? no. because he has cemented the fact that he is done as a NHL player.

we bury him, we buy him out, MAYBE someone picks him up on re-entry waivers @ 7.5 mil cap hit ~3 mil salary or something, or the hells angels get fed up and put a hit a him.

those are the choices

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How does it work cap wise if we buy out Gomez? Habs paid 75% left owing to him and spread cap hit over 4 years..a 1.875 cap hit each year for 4 years, is this right?

If we send him to minors we pay 100% left on his contract but 0 cap hit. Or, if we recall him and Gomez is claimed we pay 3.7 million for 2 years. Are these right?

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I don't believe the rumors that the Islanders wanted him. He wouldn't be THAT stupid. Would he?
Are you talking about Gomez or Snow?

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