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03-06-2012, 10:57 AM
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Find it pretty funny how you say Grabo is underrated, but then say Plek is overrated.
Care to tell us who Plekanec has played with this year? Who's he with now? Geoffrion and White?
Grabo is good player, but Plek is a lot more than just a defensive forward.

I choose Plek over Grabo any day of the week. Not even a question.
I said his defensive ability.

Hell, Grabo has a better G/60 and P/60 than ****ing Phil Kessel on the PP.

You guys are all out to lunch. Get over the fact he's an ex-Hab and a Leaf. He's a great player. Better than Plekanec? I don't know, but he's been much, much better this year.

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03-06-2012, 10:58 AM
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Montreal Fans are not very creative.
They boo or chant names.
Also boo our own players that earns points no?

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03-06-2012, 11:11 AM
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I said his defensive ability.

Hell, Grabo has a better G/60 and P/60 than ****ing Phil Kessel on the PP.

You guys are all out to lunch. Get over the fact he's an ex-Hab and a Leaf. He's a great player. Better than Plekanec? I don't know, but he's been much, much better this year.
Out to lunch? I'm not sure why you're getting your panties all up in a bunch.
I never said Grabo wasn't good. I actually saw him at Cavali Thursday night before the game, and I had seen him at Opera back in his Mtl days, so we spoke and he's a chill dude. I don't blame anybody that wants out of this Mtl mess, and the lack of leadership that's been shown by management over the years.
So really, I couldn't care less if he's a Leaf. I'd gladly take him back, but not over Plek, not a chance.

And Plek is not overrated, not even his defensive ability.

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03-06-2012, 11:14 AM
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Also boo our own players that earns points no?
For stupidity, certainly, but not creativity

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03-06-2012, 11:35 AM
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Brian Burke is mad. Hangs up on the host at the end of the interview.

http://www.newstalk1010.com/shows/mo...tryID=10356109

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03-06-2012, 11:42 AM
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Brian Burke is mad. Hangs up on the host at the end of the interview.

http://www.newstalk1010.com/shows/mo...tryID=10356109
The radio host is a major doucher, so he was right to do that.

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03-06-2012, 11:48 AM
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Well as a Grabovski fan when he was us and still now, I do say that it is a little too much. Yet, it's UFA time.....people will one day realize that players are often winning. Though, I am consequent, and believe that he will be a good player for them during the length of his contract. And for whoever watched him play, you do have to notice that he improved immensely as a hockey player. So good for him.

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03-06-2012, 11:53 AM
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I told y'all about Grabovski.

Nobody listened.

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I remember a lot of backlash that Kesler was getting the same amount of money as Plekanec. I guess when your other centres are Connolly and Bozak you have no choice but to overpay Grabovski though.

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I told y'all about Grabovski.

Nobody listened.
I think anyone that saw him play after he was called up could've said it. He was the third most productive player behind Kovalev and Plekanec in P/60 during the post-deadline period, with little to no PP time.

I remember Timmins also saying he was the most gifted player he drafted, during the 07-08 season.

Not surprised.

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The radio host is a major doucher, so he was right to do that.
No he isn't, Burke is the ****** and everyone knows it !

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Grabovski is a good 2nd line centre, the leafs had to keep him.

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meh... I still hate Grabovski and leafs overpaid for him.

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03-06-2012, 03:09 PM
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I told y'all about Grabovski.

Nobody listened.
I definitely listened.

I loved Grabovski's play, and knew he had the potential to be a great offensive player. Just another case of talent being overlooked for supposed "attitude" problems. Organisation too busy trying to save face and look "classy" all the time, except with idiots like PG at the helm the club has looked the exact opposite of classy especially this season. That said there was bad blood between him and the brothers and I did think the brothers we're more important to the club (and coudlve been if used properly) and supported the decision to move him with the idea it would help them out. Obviously it didn't, but for other reasons...

That's why I sometimes worry about Subban being moved, after all his altercations and our past with dealing away talent for depth players who just nod to the coach.

We essentially shipped out a #1C (Ribeiro) a great #2C (Grabovski) 4 Top 6 wingers (2xKostitsyn, Latendresse Ryder) 2 Bottom 6 wingers/center (Higgins, Lapierre), A future #2-3D man (McDonagh).

The hockey world to Habs --- > .

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03-06-2012, 03:27 PM
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We essentially shipped out a #1C (Ribeiro) a great #2C (Grabovski) 4 Top 6 wingers (2xKostitsyn, Latendresse Ryder) 2 Bottom 6 wingers/center (Higgins, Lapierre), A future #2-3D man (McDonagh).

The hockey world to Habs --- > .
The funny thing is that the rest of HFboards said those guys sucked and that we overrated them... Right up until they were gone, when they suddenly became awesome overnight and we were stupid to get rid of them.

Remeber Hossa-gate on here? We offered Grabo-Lapierre-Higgins and the rest of HFboards said it was the worst offer ever. Meanwhile Hossa was traded for Esposito and Armstrong, what was considered a slam dunk win for Atlanta by the geniuses on this site.

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03-06-2012, 03:30 PM
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The funny thing is that the rest of HFboards said those guys sucked and that we overrated them... Right up until they were gone, when they suddenly became awesome overnight and we were stupid to get rid of them.

Remeber Hossa-gate on here? We offered Grabo-Lapierre-Higgins and the rest of HFboards said it was the worst offer ever. Meanwhile Hossa was traded for Esposito and Armstrong, what was considered a slam dunk win for Atlanta by the geniuses on this site.
I said it was an overpayment for a rental like Hossa.

It was Grabo, Lapierre, O'Byrne, and a 1st for Hossa and Hedberg.

Waddell wanted Higgins at the last moment. Gainey said no.

We then trade Grabo for a 2nd round pick, traded for Lang who dies.
We trade Lapierre for like a 5th and he gets traded for a higher value at deadline.
We trade O'Byrne for Bournival (only shrewd move).
1st, well, I don't know who we picked that year.
Higgins we used to pair with McDonagh to make the worst mistake in franchise history since Roy.

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03-06-2012, 03:39 PM
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I said it was an overpayment for a rental like Hossa.

It was Grabo, Lapierre, O'Byrne, and a 1st for Hossa and Hedberg.

Waddell wanted Higgins at the last moment. Gainey said no.

We then trade Grabo for a 2nd round pick, traded for Lang who dies.
We trade Lapierre for like a 5th and he gets traded for a higher value at deadline.
We trade O'Byrne for Bournival (only shrewd move).
1st, well, I don't know who we picked that year.
Higgins we used to pair with McDonagh to make the worst mistake in franchise history since Roy.
We traded it along with our 2nd rounder for Tanguay.

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I said it was an overpayment for a rental like Hossa.

It was Grabo, Lapierre, O'Byrne, and a 1st for Hossa and Hedberg.

Waddell wanted Higgins at the last moment. Gainey said no.

We then trade Grabo for a 2nd round pick, traded for Lang who dies.
We trade Lapierre for like a 5th and he gets traded for a higher value at deadline.
We trade O'Byrne for Bournival (only shrewd move).
1st, well, I don't know who we picked that year.
Higgins we used to pair with McDonagh to make the worst mistake in franchise history since Roy.
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We traded it along with our 2nd rounder for Tanguay.
that cluster ******* of terrible moves perfectly highlights the "genius" that was/is Gainey/Gauthier's asset management skills

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that cluster ******* of terrible moves perfectly highlights the "genius" that was/is Gainey/Gauthier's asset management skills
The Tanguay trade wasn't bad

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The Tanguay trade wasn't bad
When you consider that Tanguay only played 50 games here, and cost a 1st and a 2nd, I'd consider that a bad trade.

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I told y'all about Grabovski.

Nobody listened.
Told us what? If you think I want Grabs at 5.5 a year your ****ing crazy! No way he is worth that...well maybe only to the Leafs. What a **** show they have become...once again!

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When you consider that Tanguay only played 50 games here, and cost a 1st and a 2nd, I'd consider that a bad trade.
Well yeah, but that's on the organization not re-signing him, not the deal itself.

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Well yeah, but that's on the organization not re-signing him, not the deal itself.
if he resigned it wouldn't look as bad

this team sucks at handling free agents

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if he resigned it wouldn't look as bad

this team sucks at handling free agents
I mean, the 25th overall pick and a 2nd rounder for a legit top 6 forward sounds fair to me

The second round pick ended up being Stefan Elliott. Kind of sucks.

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Grabovski is so underrated here, it's criminal. He has the third highest P/60 on his team at ES (only .2 under Lupul) while his line is playing the toughest matchup on every night*. He's played most of the year with a guy that can't score 10 goals with top 6 ice-time this season.

Once again, Plekanec is a great PKer, but his defensive ability is so overrated. He's a great defensive player, but there's tons of top 2 line players that play the toughest matchups and do well.
If Pleks was a UFA this summer, he'd probably get $7m which is $1.5m more than what Grabs got. People forget about inflation and are also hung up on the $5m number and relate $5m to superstar salary even though super star salaries are now $9m ish.


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If that guy had just a little bit of a bad attitude, he would have never nailed that contract.

Either Burke overpaid as usual, or the habs mishandled his case baadly.

While I think Grabo managed to play well enough this year toland a great contract, I do think it is overpayment and a question mark when you about what he really brings on the table. Has never played a playoff game, plays an important part, but in a mediocre team. What role would he have for a team that is a contender? His worth is hard to value, and Burke took the easy way to keep him.
Except he doesn't have a bad attitude. He's a leader on that team. We need more players like him.


The only problem with the contract is his injury potential.

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