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03-06-2012, 02:32 AM
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Good idea. Sutter needs to get the ball rolling with starting Bernier against the Preds tomorrow night. He's got a solid record against the Preds, and Sutter needs to play every advantage he has.

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03-06-2012, 03:02 AM
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Would LOVE for the Kings to have another shot at the Canucks. They always play well against the Canucks. Plus, we need to hear more "LUUUUUUUUOOOOOONGOOO" chants in the playoffs.
I know we do well against them, we have a shot of kicking the classless canucks out, And man if we do, Ima run naked through the streets and get tased by cops, but it'd be worth it.

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03-06-2012, 05:12 AM
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I think if the Kings do make the playoffs, they are not going to go out easily, not after all the work it took to fight their way back into a spot. The top seeds like the Wings and Canucks are already taking it pretty easy. If the Kings get in, they will be a hot team who have been playing playoff hockey for a few weeks. Not a desired matchup for those fat cats, lol.

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03-06-2012, 12:37 PM
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Good idea. Sutter needs to get the ball rolling with starting Bernier against the Preds tomorrow night. He's got a solid record against the Preds, and Sutter needs to play every advantage he has.
Regardless of record Quick is still the better choice. This year each goalie has faced the Preds. Yes Bernier got the win against them, however he also gave up 3 goals (one of the few times the Kings scored 4 goals prior to this past week). Quick lost his game against them but only gave up 2 goals, and in typical fashion Kings could only score one.

You go with your better goalie during the stretch run, Quick against Nashville, Bernier against Columbus then Quick against Detroit, IMO.

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03-06-2012, 04:01 PM
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Interestingly enough, going 11-6 would give the Kings 41 wins and 41 losses (regulation and otherwise) to end the season.

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03-06-2012, 04:15 PM
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Interestingly enough, going 11-6 would give the Kings 41 wins and 41 losses (regulation and otherwise) to end the season.
A true 500 record.

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03-07-2012, 12:45 PM
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Movin' on up:

A reminder, this chart assumes all teams continue to earn points at their current rates. This is what the standings will look like at the end of the season:

Last update:

DET (C) 112
VAN (NW) 112
PHX (P) 95
STL (C) 111
NAS (C) 105
CHI (C) 96
SJS (P) 94
DAL (P) 92
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LAK (P) 91
CGY (NW) 87

Current:

STL (C) 111
VAN (NW) 110
DAL (P) 94
DET (C) 109
NAS (C) 103
CHI (C) 95
SJS (P) 93
LAK (P) 92
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PHX (P) 92
COL (NW) 89
CGY (NW) 88

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03-07-2012, 01:02 PM
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http://nhltruestandings.com/ or this.

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03-07-2012, 04:45 PM
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Chance will make playoffs:
St. Louis 100
Detroit 100
Vancouver 100
Nashville 99.7
Chicago 86
Dallas 77.7
San Jose 71.7
Phoenix 62.4
Los Angeles 54.6
It's funny that more than 8 teams can have a 50% chance or better...

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03-07-2012, 06:43 PM
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It's funny that more than 8 teams can have a 50% chance or better...
I'll bet you dimes to dollars that if you add the percentages for ALL teams, they sum to 800%... you know, 100% times eight possible spots?

You want "funny"? Let's talk about 12 of 15 teams in the West (and 24 of 30 leaguewide) having a "winning" record, with the insane "tiebreaker" rules applied in this league.

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03-07-2012, 07:16 PM
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It's funny that more than 8 teams can have a 50% chance or better...
That just means that those teams made the playoffs in a majority of the simulations run for the remainder of the season.

It's the same reason why at the beginning of the season, all 30 teams have roughly 55% chance to make the playoffs. All teams are "probable" to make the playoffs because more teams make it in than don't.

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03-07-2012, 07:27 PM
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In other words, the stats are nothing more than a loose guideline do to random determining factors that are impossible to actually know until the number(s) become much more finite

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03-07-2012, 07:38 PM
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I'll bet you dimes to dollars that if you add the percentages for ALL teams, they sum to 800%... you know, 100% times eight possible spots?

You want "funny"? Let's talk about 12 of 15 teams in the West (and 24 of 30 leaguewide) having a "winning" record, with the insane "tiebreaker" rules applied in this league.
This really bugs some of you. The sooner you accept that the NHL likes it this way to promote better attendance and closer playoff races involving more teams, the less it will bug you.

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03-07-2012, 09:14 PM
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Here's the current magic #'s. This assumes that Detroit, Vancouver, St. Louis and Nashville are unable to be caught by the Kings, so that leaves 4 spots for the remaining 11 teams. So long as 7 teams are eliminated before the Kings elimination # hits zero, the Kings will make the playoffs.

Magic numbers:

San Jose – Games remaining: 17. Magic number: 35
Chicago – Games remaining: 14. Magic number: 34
Dallas – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 34
Los Angeles – Games remaining: 16 Elimination Number: 33
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Phoenix – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 32
Colorado – Games remaining: 14. Magic number: 29
Calgary – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 29
Anaheim – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 25
Minnesota – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 23
Edmonton – Games remaining: 16. Magic number: 17
Columbus – Games remaining: 16. Magic number: 8

LA Kings W = 2 points off of ALL opponents’ magic numbers
LA Kings OTL = 1 point off of ALL opponents’ magic numbers
LA Kings L = 0 points off of ALL opponents’ magic numbers
Opponent W = 0 points off of their magic number
Opponent OTL = 1 point off of their magic number
Opponent L = 2 points off of their magic number

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The Kings need to play about .600 hockey right?

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03-07-2012, 09:40 PM
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I miss the magic numbers. Here we go again!

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The Kings need to play about .600 hockey right?
9-6-1 should get it done.

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03-08-2012, 01:17 PM
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This really bugs some of you. The sooner you accept that the NHL likes it this way to promote better attendance and closer playoff races involving more teams, the less it will bug you.
So, you're giving me Heinlein's advice to a woman being *****? "Lay back and enjoy it?"

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03-08-2012, 01:19 PM
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9-6-1 should get it done.
Which works out to .593... so yes, "about .600" is what the team needs to keep up the rest of the way.

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03-08-2012, 04:06 PM
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So, you're giving me Heinlein's advice to a woman being *****? "Lay back and enjoy it?"
No, of course not. How is having more teams involved in the playoff race a violent act? It hurts no one. It just bugs traditionalists.

Don't the best teams make the playoffs, then reach the conference finals, and Stanley Cup Final anyway?

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03-08-2012, 04:12 PM
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Buffalo and Los Angeles had the most hype of going to the finals......Yet they find themselves in the same exact position. Imagine they both pull through and get into the finals!

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03-09-2012, 12:58 AM
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San Jose – Games remaining: 16. Magic number: 34 (OTL -1)
Chicago – Games remaining: 14. Magic number: 34
Dallas – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 34 (W = 0)
Phoenix – Games remaining: 14. Magic number: 31 (OTL -1)
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Los Angeles – Games remaining: 15 Elimination Number: 31 (L -2)
Calgary – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 29
Colorado – Games remaining: 13. Magic number: 27 (L -2)
Anaheim – Games remaining: 14. Magic number: 23 (L -2)
Minnesota – Games remaining: 14. Magic number: 23 (W=0)
Edmonton – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 15 (L -2)
Columbus – Games remaining: 15. Magic number: 8 (W = 0)

LA Kings W = 2 points off of ALL opponents’ magic numbers
LA Kings OTL = 1 point off of ALL opponents’ magic numbers
LA Kings L = 0 points off of ALL opponents’ magic numbers
Opponent W = 0 points off of their magic number
Opponent OTL = 1 point off of their magic number
Opponent L = 2 points off of their magic number

Los Angeles Kings Playoff Chances
Lost to Columbus 1-3, playoff odds down 11.9 to 42.7%

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03-09-2012, 03:15 AM
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If the Kings win in regulation or OT tomorrow at DET they would jump to 7th. They would have the tie-breaker vs. PHX (GP, ROW, head-to-head pts 8-7)

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03-09-2012, 03:24 AM
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If the Kings win in regulation or OT tomorrow at DET they would jump to 7th. They would have the tie-breaker vs. PHX (GP, ROW, head-to-head pts 8-7)
Swear to god if this team doesn't come out flying knowing that, they should all just be pawned off to the highest bidders, ESPECIALLY after losing to an AHL team + Rick Nash.

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03-09-2012, 02:25 PM
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After last night's games, the Kings still need 93 points to beat out Phoenix for the 8th spot, and 96 points to win the division over Dallas.

So, 9-5-1 to make the playoffs (.633 hockey), and 11-4 (.733 hockey) to win the division. That means in order to win the division, the Kings need at LEAST one three-game winning streak (in addition to four two-game winning streaks).

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