Turris is going to be a stud. 60+ point player for us. He has good hands and vision, unbelievable wrist shot, good speed..In his prime, this guy will wreak havoc.
Attitude towards the game, no whether or not he works hard or w/e else. You can tell in his play. The game vs NYR where he made a behind the back pass behind his net... he doesn't play the game with any kind of authority or any kind of urgency. You look at Karlsson and his passes are crisp, they're hard. He does everything at a high speed. Rundblad is missing this in his game and a lot of it can't be coached into it.
It's not a knock on his character, it's a knock on the way he plays the game and again, I can't stand the way he plays it. I don't think he is cut out to carve a long career in the NHL.
So basically what you are saying is, a rookie offensive defenseman who is making mistakes will never amount to anything.
What about spezza never trying to back check? or his blind passes? He grew out those, but according to your logic rundblad cant do the same (in regards to playing defense).
It's kind of pointless to determine a winner in a trade where both clubs end up with promising players who havent reached their full potential in the NHL yet.
Sure we gave up a second rounder but we signed DaCosta last season and he is a pretty high pick had he gone in a draft..
and back to topic.. I'm very happy what Kyle has done for us so far! Sure he's gone hot and cold but all players do that.. especially younger players. Just look at Cowen.
So basically what you are saying is, a rookie offensive defenseman who is making mistakes will never amount to anything.
What about spezza never trying to back check? or his blind passes? He grew out those, but according to your logic rundblad cant do the same (in regards to playing defense).
Rundblad could get it together, but right now, he is getting smoked at the NHL level. He was a liability in Ottawa and part of the reason he was traded was unrealistic expectations by just about everyone foolish enough to have him anointed as a middle pairing anchor. Then when he sucked, the "bust" word foolishly came out. It was clear after a dozen games he didn't belong in the NHL. He could pan out, Phoenix will either make or break his game, and to think he would have been the same d-man in Ottawa, is just wrong.
I think Rundblad for Turris was pretty good value. I didn't like the second rounder thrown in, but oh well, we do have alot of depth prospects. Its nice to have a second liner with skill that doesn't fall down every second shift.
So contrary to all the pundits and scouts and hockey writers who all say he will be great, your sample size of 20ish game has told you the that he is going to be an NHL loser. I didn't know you were a professional!!!! Please, tell me more about these specific examples from rundblads first few games where he made mistakes!!!! Anyone who doesn't play like a star in his first few games must be a loser!!! Maybe you should start your own Eklund style website projecting players after watching them for 20 games from your livingroom!!!!!
You're really angry, for a Happy Dude.
He has as much right to project his opinion of Rundblad's potential as you have of sharing your own opinions like this one:
I have to say, I found it a strange trade from the Coyotes position as well. They are loaded with young d-men, including several who are terrific puck movers. Down the middle, they have very little long-term. They traded for Vermette to fill the void that Turris seemingly should have been in. It was a strange swap on both sides, although I do see how the Sens needed both a 2nd line center AND another puck mobing d-man. I suppose for the Coyotes, they got Vermette AND Rundblad for Turris, so not a bad swap from their side, although I don't think Vermette is a long-term solution for them at scoring line center. Interesting shuffle of assets on both sides.
I have to say, I found it a strange trade from the Coyotes position as well. They are loaded with young d-men, including several who are terrific puck movers. Down the middle, they have very little long-term. They traded for Vermette to fill the void that Turris seemingly should have been in. It was a strange swap on both sides, although I do see how the Sens needed both a 2nd line center AND another puck mobing d-man. I suppose for the Coyotes, they got Vermette AND Rundblad for Turris, so not a bad swap from their side, although I don't think Vermette is a long-term solution for them at scoring line center. Interesting shuffle of assets on both sides.
Say the Yotes projected Rundblad as a 40-50 point defenseman.
They could then move a more established OEL or Yandle for more proven forward talent.
Say the Yotes projected Rundblad as a 40-50 point defenseman.
They could then move a more established OEL or Yandle for more proven forward talent.
Sure, might have just been BPA. But the problem is often when you are FORCED to move a guy because of a logjam, you sometimes only get 90% of the value back. That's the risk.
But yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if they saw Rundblad as having the higher upside, and short-term be damned, if they could get him and a 2nd for a guy who didn't want to be there, then you pull the trigger.
I like the trade more now than I did when it was made. Turris has filled our need for a top 6 forward quite admirably.
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Exhibit A as to how hockey doesn't matter on ESPN:
Last night an ESPN program was discussing how the Detroit Pistons needed a hero citing the heroes on the Detroit Tigers, Detroit Lions and no mention of the Detroit Red Wings. All this despite the Red Wings probably being the most succesful team in Detroit right now.
Its Turris' inconsistency that bothers me most... If he can fix that, then I'd say it's a fair deal for both.. Maybe an edge for OTT.
I don't even know if you can call it inconsistent. To me he's snake bitten, he's consistently generating chances, which I think is the key thing to look for in a young player. Given more experience and a few better top 6 forwards he'll be a great top 6 center.
