cy denneny - frank nighbor - helmut balderis
patrik elias - adam oates - bryan hextall sr.
craig ramsay - phil goyette - claude provost
patrick marleau - vincent lecavalier - tomas sandstrom
harry howell - red kelly
dan boyle - barry beck
ron stackhouse - jamie macoun
harry lumley
PP
denneny - oates - balderis
boyle - kelly
elias - nighbor - hextall sr
goyette - beck
PK
nighbor - ramsay
beck - howell
goyette - provost
kelly - macoun
People should wait to announce their lineup until the assassination thread. With that said:
- That offensive top-9 is eye candy. I love every single selection.
- How do you see your fourth line working, how many minutes will they play and what do they bring to your team, as that Top-9 will eat 85-to-90% ES minute?
- Classic first pairing defenceman, I'm not in love with the other two pairing. I would personnely need to be sold on Dan Boyle as a #3. Beck is a great, injured-prone #4, while the third pairing isn't noteworthy. Who will replace Beck on that 2nd pairing when he'll miss some games?
- Harry Lumley is an ok, bottom end starter. I thought you could of done better at the time you picked. Is there a good bio on him lying somewhere?
- Love the first unit of both the PP and PK
It's better to fly under the radar anyways, the more people you have picking apart at your roster will negativily affect the votes you get.
I doubt it. It's probably better to promote every chance you get. Take your underrated goalie and compare him to some others selected before him, take your bargain basement 2nd liner and show he's barely worse than guys taken 200 picks earlier. Show that you're the only team with two postseason all-stars on your bottom pairing. Et cetera. You will bait some others into arguments but if you have the stomach for it (and most importantly the players' achievements back up the claims you're making), you'll be better for it.
People should wait to announce their lineup until the assassination thread. With that said:
- That offensive top-9 is eye candy. I love every single selection.
- How do you see your fourth line working, how many minutes will they play and what do they bring to your team, as that Top-9 will eat 85-to-90% ES minute?
- Classic first pairing defenceman, I'm not in love with the other two pairing. I would personnely need to be sold on Dan Boyle as a #3. Beck is a great, injured-prone #4, while the third pairing isn't noteworthy. Who will replace Beck on that 2nd pairing when he'll miss some games?
- Harry Lumley is an ok, bottom end starter. I thought you could of done better at the time you picked. Is there a good bio on him lying somewhere?
- Love the first unit of both the PP and PK
Agreed on all points, I don't know if your top-9, albeit a fantastic two-way group will be enough to make up for some holes on the back end.
Call me crazy, but I think of Macoun as a better PKer than Beck...
I wouldn't say that. Beck was physically dominant in the crease area in a way that few defensemen can match, and he spent a ton of time killing penalties during his career. Macoun was an excellent PKer in his own right, and also killed a ton of penalties, but he's not going to just bulldoze someone out of the crease area the way Beck can.
To be honest, when looking at Beck and Boyle and taking competitive era into account (which in Beck's case was probably the deepest in NHL history), I am not sure who is the more accomplished defenseman. Either one would be a below average #3 or an extremely good #4. Together, I think they make about an average 2nd pairing, and complement one another well stylistically.
Looks like our forward group is finally complete. Right now, it looks like we will be going with 3 scoring lines and a checking line. Our checking line of Tony Leswick, Michael Peca, and Johnny Peirson will remain the same, but the 9 scoring forwards can all be mixed at matched depending on the opponent, or could also be changed during games to avoid line matches.
There are plenty of possible combinations, but here are a few:
Nels Stewart - Peter Forsberg - Alf Smith
Smokey Harris - Frank Foyston - Owen Nolan
Ilya Kovalchuk - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Nels Stewart - Peter Forsberg - Owen Nolan
Ilya Kovalchuk - Frank Foyston - Alf Smith
Smokey Harris - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Frank Foyston - Peter Forsberg - Owen Nolan
Smokey Harris - Nels Stewart - Alf Smith
Ilya Kovalchuk - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Ilya Kovalchuk - Peter Forsberg - Frank Foyston
Alf Smith - Nels Stewart - Owen Nolan
Smokey Harris - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Ilya Kovalchuk - Peter Forsberg - Smokey Harris
Alf Smith - Nels Stewart - Owen Nolan
Frank Foyston - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Looks like our forward group is finally complete. Right now, it looks like we will be going with 3 scoring lines and a checking line. Our checking line of Tony Leswick, Michael Peca, and Johnny Peirson will remain the same, but the 9 scoring forwards can all be mixed at matched depending on the opponent, or could also be changed during games to avoid line matches.
There are plenty of possible combinations, but here are a few:
Nels Stewart - Peter Forsberg - Alf Smith
Smokey Harris - Frank Foyston - Owen Nolan
Ilya Kovalchuk - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Nels Stewart - Peter Forsberg - Owen Nolan
Ilya Kovalchuk - Frank Foyston - Alf Smith
Smokey Harris - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Frank Foyston - Peter Forsberg - Owen Nolan
Smokey Harris - Nels Stewart - Alf Smith
Ilya Kovalchuk - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Ilya Kovalchuk - Peter Forsberg - Frank Foyston
Alf Smith - Nels Stewart - Owen Nolan
Smokey Harris - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
Ilya Kovalchuk - Peter Forsberg - Smokey Harris
Alf Smith - Nels Stewart - Owen Nolan
Frank Foyston - Red Sullivan - Bill Goldsworthy
I'd put Kovalchuk with Forsberg and Smith with Stewart. The remainding winger is kind of difficult. Foyston with Forsberg and Harris with Stewart?
#40 Henrik Zetterberg-#26 Peter Šťastný-#9 Maurice Richard
#19 Markus Näslund-#25 Jacques Lemaire-#13 Bill Guerin
#11 Harry Westwick-#21 Guy Carbonneau-#16 Bengt-Åke Gustafsson
#22 Dennis Hextall-#15 Jaroslav Holík-#12 Ron Stewart
#4 Bill Gadsby-#5 Dit Clapper
#2 Derian Hatcher-#6 Art Duncan
#3 František Tikal-#7 Harry Mummery
#1 Hugh Lehman
#30 Tim Thomas
First Power Play Unit: Näslund-Šťastný-Richard-Gadsby-Duncan
Second Power Play Unit: Zetterberg-Lemaire-Guerin-Mummery-Clapper
First Penalty Kill Unit: Carbonneau-Westwick-Hatcher-Clapper
Second Penalty Kill Unit: Lemaire-Gustafsson-Gadsby-Tikal
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#40 Henrik Zetterberg-#26 Peter Šťastný-#9 Maurice Richard
#19 Markus Näslund-#25 Jacques Lemaire-#13 Bill Guerin #11 Harry Westwick-#21 Guy Carbonneau-#16 Bengt-Åke Gustafsson
#22 Dennis Hextall-#15 Jaroslav Holík-#12 Ron Stewart
#4 Bill Gadsby-#5 Dit Clapper
#2 Derian Hatcher-#6 Art Duncan
#3 František Tikal-#7 Harry Mummery
#1 Hugh Lehman
#30 Tim Thomas
First Power Play Unit: Näslund-Šťastný-Richard-Gadsby-Duncan
Second Power Play Unit: Zetterberg-Lemaire-Guerin-Mummery-Clapper
First Penalty Kill Unit: Carbonneau-Westwick-Hatcher-Clapper
Second Penalty Kill Unit: Lemaire-Gustafsson-Gadsby-Tikal
I'm not an expert of Gustafsson, but I thought his best season were played on the Left side and centre. If so, I would switch him with Westwick, who can play both wing with perfect ease.
I'm not an expert of Gustafsson, but I thought his best season were played on the Left side and centre. If so, I would switch him with Westwick, who can play both wing with perfect ease.
Gustafsson seems to be a true multi-position player. When given one position on a website or hockey card, it's RW. But his all-star votes came at LW and C. So I have no idea what the best layout is. I just know I like that three of my four best defensive wingers (Gustafsson, Westwick and Zetterberg, Stewart being the odd man out.) can play centre and thus give me multiple options for key defensive zone faceoffs.
Gustafsson seems to be a true multi-position player. When given one position on a website or hockey card, it's RW. But his all-star votes came at LW and C. So I have no idea what the best layout is. I just know I like that three of my four best defensive wingers (Gustafsson, Westwick and Zetterberg, Stewart being the odd man out.) can play centre and thus give me multiple options for key defensive zone faceoffs.
Ron Stewart playing chart: (What I found when I researched him)
Season
POS
1952-53
RW
1953-54
RW
1954-55
F/D
1955-56
F/D
1956-57
F/D
1957-58
D
1958-59
RW
1959-60
C
1960-61
C
1961-62
F
1962-63
F
1963-64
F
1964-65
F
1965-66
C
1966-67
C
1967-68
F
1968-69
F
1969-70
F
1970-71
F
1971-72
F
1972-73
RW
I would say he could qualify as a centre. Another true multipositional player.
#4 Bill Gadsby-#5 Dit Clapper
#2 Derian Hatcher-#6 Art Duncan
#3 František Tikal-#7 Harry Mummery
That's an enormous back line. I have no idea how big Tikal was, but Clapper, Hatcher, Duncan, and Mummery were all among the biggest players of their time.
That's an enormous back line. I have no idea how big Tikal was, but Clapper, Hatcher, Duncan, and Mummery were all among the biggest players of their time.
That's an enormous back line. I have no idea how big Tikal was, but Clapper, Hatcher, Duncan, and Mummery were all among the biggest players of their time.
Most salient criticism of Lehman is that he struggles on screened shots. With that backline, that shouldn't be a major problem.
Tikal was big for a Euro at his time. Ragulin was bigger, but beyond that, no top d-men were. At the NHL level he would have been above average.
That's an enormous back line. I have no idea how big Tikal was, but Clapper, Hatcher, Duncan, and Mummery were all among the biggest players of their time.
Yeah, Gadsby was a big, strong, and sometimes mean player. Nalyd's defense is very big, and good. I consider Hatcher overrated in the ATD (I think he was flattered by playing with Zubov and on a very good team, and that his AST record is about right), but it is nevertheless a strong defense.
