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03-07-2012, 12:18 PM
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Maybe we can get that forward in juniors who had to play cause the goalies got hurt too while we're at it.

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Heh, well one needs to be dressed in case Hutton gets hurt. I would definitely give Crawford the nod for sitting in the press box. He's been paid 3.25 mil this season to be one of the worst goalies in the NHL.
I like the idea of Hutton/Salak alternating for 4 games with the other dressing as the backup. No more excuses, no more free passes. Crawford and Emery sit together and watch two other guys in their jobs.

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I like the idea of Hutton/Salak alternating for 4 games with the other dressing as the backup. No more excuses, no more free passes. Crawford and Emery sit together and watch two other guys in their jobs.
Salak doesn't deserve a chance.

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I like the idea of Hutton/Salak alternating for 4 games with the other dressing as the backup. No more excuses, no more free passes. Crawford and Emery sit together and watch two other guys in their jobs.
Emery was just named the third star of the week. He has a Sv% of 0.932 over his past 6 starts, including the St.Louis game.

Alexander Salak recently threw a tantrum and hasn't played a game yet, he's not being called up..

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Hutton, Salak, both. Doesn't matter to me.

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03-07-2012, 02:12 PM
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Why would either be called up when Emery's been playing well? Crawford had a 4-game winning streak before Toews went down.

The goaltending hasn't been the problem recently. Neither Hutton or Salak are improvements. Neither are being called up.

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The general malaise and lack of accountibility has been an issue though, all season.

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The general malaise and lack of accountibility has been an issue though, all season.
So you right that by bringing up a couple guys that haven't earned the chance? Hutton's had a nice streak, so has Emery.

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So you right that by bringing up a couple guys that haven't earned the chance? Hutton's had a nice streak, so has Emery.
Yeah, you sit the goalies down and have a conversation about the season:

"You know it hasn't been good enough."

That's all that needs to be said.

Then you give the young guy(s) a few games and have another conversation with Crawford/Emery, another short one:

"Do you think you can do better than that night in, night out?"

--> "Yes"

"Then start doing it"


This has already happened with both the forwards and D all year long and has produced results from the young guys and better efforts from a few of the players already on the team.

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Yeah, you sit the goalies down and have a conversation about the season:

"You know it hasn't been good enough."

That's all that needs to be said.

Then you give the young guy(s) a few games and have another conversation with Crawford/Emery, another short one:

"Do you think you can do better than that night in, night out?"

--> "Yes"

"Then start doing it"


This has already happened with both the forwards and D all year long and has produced results from the young guys and better efforts from a few of the players already on the team.
No it hasn't. Bickell's been marginally better, but that's not saying alot because he was absolutely atrocious for the first 50+ games, sitting regularly. Frolik's been no better, he's now the regular healthy scratch. Stalberg hasn't been producing for a long time and Brunette has 2 goals in his past 30+ games.

Kane's recent upswing has nothing to do with Shaw/Hayes and it's not like anyone in the big-4 outside of Kane was struggling this year.

Which guys "woke up" with the likes of Shaw and Hayes been called up?

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No it hasn't. Bickell's been marginally better, but that's not saying alot because he was absolutely atrocious for the first 50+ games, sitting regularly. Frolik's been no better, he's now the regular healthy scratch. Stalberg hasn't been producing for a long time and Brunette has 2 goals in his past 30+ games.

Kane's recent upswing has nothing to do with Shaw/Hayes and it's not like anyone in the big-4 outside of Kane was struggling this year.

Which guys "woke up" with the likes of Shaw and Hayes been called up?
Bickell has been significantly better for awhile now. It worked with him and he's actually a useful bottom 6 player now. Kruger as well, he's been significantly better and stepped up since the competition for playing time came up, especially shortly after Shaw was playing center. That was in mid to late January. Kruger has 5 goals and 3 assists and a more inspired, better game overall.

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Yeah, you sit the goalies down and have a conversation about the season:

"You know it hasn't been good enough."

That's all that needs to be said.


Then you give the young guy(s) a few games and have another conversation with Crawford/Emery, another short one:

"Do you think you can do better than that night in, night out?"

--> "Yes"

"Then start doing it"


This has already happened with both the forwards and D all year long and has produced results from the young guys and better efforts from a few of the players already on the team.
how do you know what has been said and what hasnt been?

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I like the idea of Hutton/Salak alternating for 4 games with the other dressing as the backup. No more excuses, no more free passes. Crawford and Emery sit together and watch two other guys in their jobs.
Stop panicking.

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Yeah, you sit the goalies down and have a conversation about the season:

"You know it hasn't been good enough."

That's all that needs to be said.

Then you give the young guy(s) a few games and have another conversation with Crawford/Emery, another short one:

"Do you think you can do better than that night in, night out?"

--> "Yes"

"Then start doing it"


This has already happened with both the forwards and D all year long and has produced results from the young guys and better efforts from a few of the players already on the team.

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"You know it hasn't been good enough."
You don't think they already know that?

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"Do you think you can do better than that night in, night out?"
--> "We already do", would be their answer if this ever happened.

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03-08-2012, 12:47 AM
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Every sane person knows that we won't call up Salak or Hutton this year...

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Why would either be called up when Emery's been playing well? Crawford had a 4-game winning streak before Toews went down.

The goaltending hasn't been the problem recently. Neither Hutton or Salak are improvements. Neither are being called up.
Our goaltending has been a huge issue all year but because it hasn't been terrible for a week everything is fine? This is what our goaltending has been all year, hot for a short time then terrible for months.

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Our goaltending has been a huge issue all year but because it hasn't been terrible for a week everything is fine? This is what our goaltending has been all year, hot for a short time then terrible for months.
You just described the team defense, not the goaltending.

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You just described the team defense, not the goaltending.
It's both, I don't get why people give our goalies such huge passes, yes the defense has been bad, but that doesn't excuse our goaltending.

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It's both, I don't get why people give our goalies such huge passes, yes the defense has been bad, but that doesn't excuse our goaltending.
Everything starts in goal. Our defense is at least partly what it is because of brutal goaltending. There is no confidence in either Crawford or Emery in pulling their weight because when they were called on to do it, they folded like cheap suits far too often. Crawford worse than Emery, but neither has been even close to good enough.

Anyone who is giving them a free pass doesn't seem to understand what it feels like when you have the feeling any and every mistake you make will end up in the back of the net. No one plays perfect, but the Hawks goaltending doesn't allow for any leeway at all.

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I say it's 65% on the Goalies and 35% on the Team D

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Given the state of the organization, Hutton has earned an NHL start this year, at least.
I'm all for this idea, seriously. See how he does, if it doesn't work out, bring up Salak, and if THAT still doesn't work, start Emery for the rest of the games and forget about Crawford unless Emery pulls a groin or re-injures his hip or something.

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I say it's 65% on the Goalies and 35% on the Team D
Good ratio IMO, but still I think the roots of the team are in goal. Toronto's falter happened because their goalies' play dropped IMMENSELY from a month ago. Look at where Monster was then and now in any rankings. I'm not saying you don't need offense to win championships, and suggesting ship out Kane and Hossa and the rest of 'em for Lundqvist (which would be AWESOME if we could get him, but it would never happen) (and look at LA, where are they with no offense and a stellar defense?), but you have to give to get, and that's the idea. You can't assume you're safe in the Western Conference down the stretch...ever...with the kind of goaltending they're getting from their guys now. It's an atrocity and unless this ordeal is addressed in the off-season then we could be in huge trouble, esp. with that monstrous contract handed to Crawford.

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I still wait for Elliott to come down to earth a bit more, but they still have Halak...

Look at Khabby to start the season and how EDM did back then. Flames are only in the PO race because of Kipper.
But I have to say props to Emery, he's playing better than I expected

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Salak doesn't deserve a chance.
Salak's been playing injured all season long, plus Rockford is in the league basement, so you can't really blame him for the atrocious record and GAA.

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Another Rockford win last night. Hutton gave up one PP goal on 22 shots against.

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