To me Brewed in Canada = Canadian Beer. I'm not too concerned with labels or ownership. Canadian Budweiser = Canadian Beer, Canadian Coors = Canadian Beer. Likewise if Labatt Blue had a version that was brewed in the US (which they may) I would call it American Beer.
Any way that you want to label it, it's swill. Europeans know how to make beer, Canadians know how to play hockey.
You really have NO idea what you're talking about.
But to answer the original question, 1905 on Jasper Avenue is pretty central and usually isn't too busy. As for Whyte Avenue, the Red Square Vodka House (or Lounge) isn't too bad either. The Tilted Kilt is decent as well.
O'Byrne's is the easy answer, but that place is usually pretty packed.
You really have NO idea what you're talking about.
But to answer the original question, 1905 on Jasper Avenue is pretty central and usually isn't too busy. As for Whyte Avenue, the Red Square Vodka House (or Lounge) isn't too bad either. The Tilted Kilt is decent as well.
O'Byrne's is the easy answer, but that place is usually pretty packed.
Yes I do have an idea of what I'm talking about. I DO drink beer.
People are really making too big of a deal about my opinion. I'll go more into depth. European STYLE beer is better. Even the rare Canadian beer that I like is styled like a European beer.
Also, it's not like I'm from Europe. I'm from Edmonton, so I don't have a hidden agenda. I used to drink Canadian beer and I thought it was delicious. So I started trying more import brands. From all over the world.
My favorites are czech pilsners. I pretty much drink them exclusively. Trying to convince me otherwise is like trying to convince me to become a Habs fan.
"You like the Oilers? You're so wrong! The Habs have 25 cups and their last cup is more recent. Check out this game on this date."
Yes I do have an idea of what I'm talking about. I DO drink beer.
It's a beer snob, but a beer snob that drinks SABMiller and InBev imported beers. Typically beer snobs criticize all macrobrew (except Sam Adams) and only drink microbrews. By the way there is very good beer made in North America whether you like it or not, a personal favourite of mine being Arrogant ******* Ale by Stone Brewing (I think) though I've only got it down in California sadly. Honestly though I use to be a beer snob and all it does is annoy the hell out of people.
I can vouch for Devaney's it's small, but the food and atmosphere are good.
It's a beer snob, but a beer snob that drinks SABMiller and InBev imported beers. Typically beer snobs criticize all macrobrew (except Sam Adams) and only drink microbrews. By the way there is very good beer made in North America whether you like it or not, a personal favourite of mine being Arrogant ******* Ale by Stone Brewing (I think) though I've only got it down in California sadly. Honestly though I use to be a beer snob and all it does is annoy the hell out of people.
I can vouch for Devaney's it's small, but the food and atmosphere are good.
So you 'stopped being a beer snob' because you hurt some people's feelings?
Yes I do have an idea of what I'm talking about. I DO drink beer.
People are really making too big of a deal about my opinion. I'll go more into depth. European STYLE beer is better. Even the rare Canadian beer that I like is styled like a European beer.
Also, it's not like I'm from Europe. I'm from Edmonton, so I don't have a hidden agenda. I used to drink Canadian beer and I thought it was delicious. So I started trying more import brands. From all over the world.
My favorites are czech pilsners. I pretty much drink them exclusively. Trying to convince me otherwise is like trying to convince me to become a Habs fan.
"You like the Oilers? You're so wrong! The Habs have 25 cups and their last cup is more recent. Check out this game on this date."
Wow. You sound more and more stupid with each post. Keep going!
Most people don't care about anyone's thoughts on anything. So why voice your thoughts on anything?
FYI, his 'counter-preaching' is basically the same thing. Painfully so.
I think it's a bit different for beer because it's subjective and a matter of opinion. No beer is factually "good" or "bad". People will like what they like and hearing people preach about what they deem to be good gets very tiring and old.
I think it's a bit different for beer because it's subjective and a matter of opinion. No beer is factually "good" or "bad". People will like what they like and hearing people preach about what they deem to be good gets very tiring and old.
My point was he was preaching in his attempt to 'counter' the statement. How is that any better? By the way, there are 'factually' bad beers (as there are for any drinks or foods). There is such a thing as quality in regards to ingredients and production methods.
I wouldn't say that it IS any better. I'm just very anti-beer snob. I used to be one myself and it took me a few years to realize how much a knob that I was whenever I was drinking.
I understand what you're saying about ingredients and everything but I don't believe that makes them "bad". Perhaps they are less reputable or whatever. But I'll drink Lucky or Coors just as readily as I'll drink a Dead Frog or Guinness. Like I said, it's all a matter of opinion. If someone makes fun of me for drinking Coors or Canadian while holding a can of Pabst Blue Ribbon, they can expect to be spit on lol.
I find beer snobs annoying because to me it is a very worthless thing to be vested in. I don't really drink it because it has alcohol but not enough to get you ****ed up, and I either don't drink a drop of alcohol or get drilled out of my mind, but I know I'm rare in not socially drinking at all.
But I also spend a huge amount of money on high end clothes. I'm also a huge cologne elitist. I don't ever talk about it unless someone else with a similar interest wants to banter back and forth because I know no one gives. Well, I will make fun of my friends with no fashion sense but whatever.
I honestly think we would be better suited separating the two threads going on in here for the betterment of both.
I wouldn't say that it IS any better. I'm just very anti-beer snob. I used to be one myself and it took me a few years to realize how much a knob that I was whenever I was drinking.
I understand what you're saying about ingredients and everything but I don't believe that makes them "bad". Perhaps they are less reputable or whatever. But I'll drink Lucky or Coors just as readily as I'll drink a Dead Frog or Guinness. Like I said, it's all a matter of opinion. If someone makes fun of me for drinking Coors or Canadian while holding a can of Pabst Blue Ribbon, they can expect to be spit on lol.
To be fair, when I'm drinking with friends I make suggestions (they tend to value my opinion god knows why), and if I'm offered a domestic beer I don't turn it down, and if it's all that's available I'll buy one.
Who would be a snob about Pabst Blue Ribbon? Some clueless hipster? It's a 'value' beer. I'd hope anyone would spit on them.
To be fair, if I drank more I probably wouldn't be buying the higher end imports and craft beers much, but I'd still likely buy microbrewed (and 'mainstream imports' though the following applies to a lesser extent from what I can tell, especially small batches) because it tastes better (yes, subjectively), is about the same price (domestics are incredibly overpriced considering the cost to make them), and I'd rather support a company that seems to (key word is seems) care more about their product by putting more time and effort into sourcing quality ingredients and brewing in smaller batches.
Edit: I do agree, we've derailed this long enough. I've about said all I can/care to about local bars, so I'll lurk the thread but won't be posting unless appropriate.
I find beer snobs annoying because to me it is a very worthless thing to be vested in. I don't really drink it because it has alcohol but not enough to get you ****ed up, and I either don't drink a drop of alcohol or get drilled out of my mind, but I know I'm rare in not socially drinking at all.
But I also spend a huge amount of money on high end clothes. I'm also a huge cologne elitist. I don't ever talk about it unless someone else with a similar interest wants to banter back and forth because I know no one gives. Well, I will make fun of my friends with no fashion sense but whatever.
I honestly think we would be better suited separating the two threads going on in here for the betterment of both.
Anybody who doesn't think there is such a thing as bad beer hasn't spent time in Asia. There are some decent ones (usually Japanese), but a lot of them have manufacturing chemicals as ingredients and leave you with a blinding hangover. There is a massive difference in the way beer tastes based on the water used, the type of grain, the way the hops are roast, the amount of preservatives added, etc.
There is a world of difference between a good beer and a bad beer, and if you can't tell the difference you probably haven't yet developed a taste for beer or don't drink it period.
And yes, European beers simply are better. Are there amazing North American microbrews? Yes (funny that a few people have mentioned Rogue, my mate works for them and having imbibed quite a few free 'samples,' I can attest that it is a good one). Are there crappy, mass-produced European beers? Definitely.
However, you can't really base your comparison by comparing Maudite to Heineken. They're a different class of beer - it's like apples and oranges.
People are really making too big of a deal about my opinion. I'll go more into depth. European STYLE beer is better. Even the rare Canadian beer that I like is styled like a European beer.
Also, it's not like I'm from Europe. I'm from Edmonton, so I don't have a hidden agenda. I used to drink Canadian beer and I thought it was delicious. So I started trying more import brands. From all over the world.
My favorites are czech pilsners. I pretty much drink them exclusively. Trying to convince me otherwise is like trying to convince me to become a Habs fan.
"You like the Oilers? You're so wrong! The Habs have 25 cups and their last cup is more recent. Check out this game on this date."
I think you are missing the point. You're basically arguing that you prefer to drink those beers because you like them and no one is going to convince you otherwise. I don't think anyone is taking issue with that.
What most people are taking issue with is that European beers are "simply better" than NA beers. Some are and some aren't. NA has some **** beers and so does Europe. Europe has some awesome beers and so does NA. Now if you want to look at it on a # of beer basis, then yeah I suppose Europe probably has NA beat due to the fact that there are a **** ton of breweries in Germany and Belgium and the Czech Republic.
It's kind of like taking Canada's population and then taking the USA's population and saying who is going to produce more gold medalists at the summer olympics.
I find beer snobs annoying because to me it is a very worthless thing to be vested in. I don't really drink it because it has alcohol but not enough to get you ****ed up, and I either don't drink a drop of alcohol or get drilled out of my mind, but I know I'm rare in not socially drinking at all.
Exactly and that's your thing. You don't drink alcohol to taste them, you drink them to get drunk. While I prefer to sit and sip on finer tasting beers, rums and whiskeys. I consume them for the taste not the alcohol content. Different strokes for different folks.
Anybody getting butt hurt about a little debate going back and forth in this thread needs to calm down. The topic of beer and alcohol has no exact science like music, movies and TV shows. People like what they will like and people have their own opinions that they will stick up for and/or refute. But coming in here and calling people elitists and snobs is pretty much the pot calling the kettle black.
I find beer snobs annoying because to me it is a very worthless thing to be vested in. I don't really drink it because it has alcohol but not enough to get you ****ed up, and I either don't drink a drop of alcohol or get drilled out of my mind, but I know I'm rare in not socially drinking at all.
But I also spend a huge amount of money on high end clothes. I'm also a huge cologne elitist. I don't ever talk about it unless someone else with a similar interest wants to banter back and forth because I know no one gives. Well, I will make fun of my friends with no fashion sense but whatever.
I honestly think we would be better suited separating the two threads going on in here for the betterment of both.
And that is exactly why I continued with "but I know no one gives a damn" and I know people think cologne or dressing nice is a waste of money.
But, I doubt you start many conversations with girls after they compliment your taste in beer randomly throughout the day while you're minding your own business.
