Just thought of an idea to improve lower bowl attendance:
Only have all you can eat access on the Fire Lounge side. Have the Ice Lounge side set up like the Nets have where you can purchase food from the counters, and lower the price of the seats accordingly. This way the side shown on TV won't always be half full, and more people can afford to sit in premium seats without paying out the wazoo.
Sounds pretty good, no?
The lounges should be upstairs. If you ever sat there there's maybe half the people in their seats, everyone is upstairs eating and not paying attention. Have some primo luxury seats downstairs sure, but all the best seats in the house for that insane price with those extras was just moronic.
Just thought of an idea to improve lower bowl attendance:
Only have all you can eat access on the Fire Lounge side. Have the Ice Lounge side set up like the Nets have where you can purchase food from the counters, and lower the price of the seats accordingly. This way the side shown on TV won't always be half full, and more people can afford to sit in premium seats without paying out the wazoo.
Sounds pretty good, no?
The biggest issue with that (aside from the concerns you'll have of changing the type of seat being purchased by current STHs): If there is a large discrepancy between the people who want the seats with food included vs. the ones who would rather have the cheaper seat with no food, then it does little to solve the problem. One side may be full, but the other may be more empty than it already is. Is that any better really? If the only goal is to make the TV visible side look better, than quietly upgrade people from the non-visible side and/or higher seats to the lower bowl to give that impression. If you're going to sell the same amount of seats either way, or take the same (or less) revenue from it, the "impression" you get from looking on TV is meaningless.
That's just an issue you'll have in any area where you give people another location to be other than their seat in the bowl. Watch a Rangers game at MSG and look at the seats just off the glass on the side. Those are seats either for the event level suites (the actual suite being below and behind the first 4 rows of the lower bowl which belong to each suite), or for those with access to the Delta Club. You see many empty seats on TV. The original appeal to the Delta Club was the included food and non-alcoholic beverages. Problem is, the area was too nice that people hung out in there too long. The decision came from the top (like President of Madison Square Garden type of the top, not "Director of ______" kind of top) to cut off all food sales during the period. First intermission hits. The food is all out there for 17 minutes. Puck drops to start the second and all food is immediately taken away and shut down until the next intermission. Which is the better scenario: empty seats on TV, or THAT (which still results in empty seats on TV... and very unhappy STHs)?
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The biggest issue with that (aside from the concerns you'll have of changing the type of seat being purchased by current STHs): If there is a large discrepancy between the people who want the seats with food included vs. the ones who would rather have the cheaper seat with no food, then it does little to solve the problem. One side may be full, but the other may be more empty than it already is. Is that any better really? If the only goal is to make the TV visible side look better, than quietly upgrade people from the non-visible side and/or higher seats to the lower bowl to give that impression. If you're going to sell the same amount of seats either way, or take the same (or less) revenue from it, the "impression" you get from looking on TV is meaningless.
That's just an issue you'll have in any area where you give people another location to be other than their seat in the bowl. Watch a Rangers game at MSG and look at the seats just off the glass on the side. Those are seats either for the event level suites (the actual suite being below and behind the first 4 rows of the lower bowl which belong to each suite), or for those with access to the Delta Club. You see many empty seats on TV. The original appeal to the Delta Club was the included food and non-alcoholic beverages. Problem is, the area was too nice that people hung out in there too long. The decision came from the top (like President of Madison Square Garden type of the top, not "Director of ______" kind of top) to cut off all food sales during the period. First intermission hits. The food is all out there for 17 minutes. Puck drops to start the second and all food is immediately taken away and shut down until the next intermission. Which is the better scenario: empty seats on TV, or THAT (which still results in empty seats on TV... and very unhappy STHs)?
Well clearly this isn't only to look better on tv . Opening up a section like the Nets have would let the more average fan afford to sit there for a few games or even buy a season ticket plan. I don't know...I just feel like we have more club seats than we need.
Classic, normal prices. But with three games in a week and the others being Rangers and Flyers on a weekend this game was going to suffer.
Good points, and don't forget a lot of our fans went to LI this past Sunday and more are going back there this Saturday.
Not a bad crowd overall tonight at The Rock, even more than I thought and I would presume over 90%+ Devils fans in the fan ratio.
Last edited by Devils Dominion: 03-08-2012 at 10:19 PM.
Can't even draw 15,000. Something has to be done. Was this a value or classic game?
"classic", so the folks who sit in the dark greens got to see their "value" plummet even more today - that 30 dollar tshirt/hotdog/soda deal for the 100 level seats just made my seats look like ****
Looks like a lot of people took them up on it, which is good, but it's still sad they don't realize how unbalanced the prices are between the 200's and the endzone 100's - the first sections next to the 10 dollar seats were ghost towns as expected.
"classic", so the folks who sit in the dark greens got to see their "value" plummet even more today - that 30 dollar tshirt/hotdog/soda deal for the 100 level seats just made my seats look like ****
Looks like a lot of people took them up on it, which is good, but it's still sad they don't realize how unbalanced the prices are between the 200's and the endzone 100's - the first sections next to the 10 dollar seats were ghost towns as expected.
I was even having trouble selling my 120 seats, I finally got $17 each for them on TicketExchange (net) with like a few hours to go before the game and called it a day.
I didn't try and sell them here, partly cause I felt bad for you having to sell more of the center ice uppers and someone else selling their lowers with all the other discounts out there But also it seems like people here don't take me up on my tickets anyway unless it's for a Ranger game or below the $22 price point for a pair (one of the value games earlier in the season)
Even so I've only had to eat one single ticket this year - an extra for a Buffalo game in January - and am still a bit on the plus side of a profit despite being a 'very' conservative seller most games and going to most of them anyway. I don't even care about maximizing profit for the most part, I just look to break even (though that usually entails profiting from some games and taking a loss on others).
This was a Thursday game. A Thursday game two days after a home game that everyone went to.
Do you remember Thursday games at the Meadowlands?
The turnout was fine last night.
Beleive it or not we would get crowds in the swamp. Gotta go back to 1998 though. Averaged about the capacity of the Rock that year! Barley out drew Columbus last night crowds under 15k stink!
. Opening up a section like the Nets have would let the more average fan afford to sit there for a few games or even buy a season ticket plan. I don't know...I just feel like we have more club seats than we need.
Barley out drew Columbus last night crowds under 15k stink!
