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03-09-2012, 11:25 AM
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Parise is staying put. Book it.
I'd say he has as much staying in new jersey has suter staying put here. Not to mention we are playoff bound and jersey most likely isn't. If that has any sway in their decisions.

I still think Bobby Ryan or Ryan getzlaf gets dealt in offseason if ducks miss playoffs. Either would look great in predators jersey!

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I'd say he has as much staying in new jersey has suter staying put here. Not to mention we are playoff bound and jersey most likely isn't. If that has any sway in their decisions.

I still think Bobby Ryan or Ryan getzlaf gets dealt in offseason if ducks miss playoffs. Either would look great in predators jersey!
Jersey not playoff bound? Wait what? Did I miss something again?

Devils is playing very solid hockey lately and I believe will go deep in PO. I don't see anyone in the east other than NYR and may be Boston competing with them.

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Jersey not playoff bound? Wait what? Did I miss something again?

Devils is playing very solid hockey lately and I believe will go deep in PO. I don't see anyone in the east other than NYR and may be Boston competing with them.
The Devils are only 9 points clear of the #9 seed ... clearly going to tank and miss the post season.

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Didn't realize how good devils were doing, lol, don't really watch the east as closely.
Either way. I still think getzlaf or Ryan would look good in a predators jersey!

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Hey Dryden ... that Andrei Kostitsyn sucks doesn't he?

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03-11-2012, 11:05 AM
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Hey Dryden ... that Andrei Kostitsyn sucks doesn't he?

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Hahaha, oh I love when hab fans are wrong and even better when it works to our benefit!


Lovin' andrei so far!! He has more points than games played !!

PLAYOFFS!!!

(still not overly impressed with goose though)

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Didn't realize how good devils were doing, lol, don't really watch the east as closely.
Either way. I still think getzlaf or Ryan would look good in a predators jersey!
I don't see any motivation for Anaheim to do that, especially with Selanne and Koivu done after this season. Only possibility I see is Ryan to Cbus for that 1st overall, and even that's a bit of a stretch.

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Hey Dryden ... that Andrei Kostitsyn sucks doesn't he?

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no doubt....

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I don't see any motivation for Anaheim to do that, especially with Selanne and Koivu done after this season. Only possibility I see is Ryan to Cbus for that 1st overall, and even that's a bit of a stretch.
I don't know, anything is possible right? Who ever thought Philly would unload both Carter and Richards last offseason??

I could see the ducks wanting Blum, Hornqvist, and something else for Ryan. Only time will tell I suppose but I think this will be an interesting offseason...

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Hahaha, oh I love when hab fans are wrong
Decide which signpost you want to follow and then click the pic. You'll end up where you want to be.



As far as it working out to your benefit, hopefully you'll have to be quick in the off-season if you want to get the better of us again. By the time someone lifts up the Stanley Cup, hopefully a couple of months sooner, we will have got rid of some idiots and replaced them with competent personel, making the whole 'screwing us over' thing other teams have enjoyed lately far more unlikely

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03-12-2012, 11:32 AM
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Hahaha, oh I love when hab fans are wrong and even better when it works to our benefit!


Lovin' andrei so far!! He has more points than games played !!

PLAYOFFS!!!

(still not overly impressed with goose though)
There's bunch of idiot fans that follow the habs and management is just as dumb but a few of us knew we got robbed,heck a few of us knew we got robbed for SK when the trade went down.All the credit goes to you guys,wish Montreal was run more like Nashville,enjoy AK46 and good luck in the playoffs,there's another talent in St-louis that we let go who's going to be waiting for you in net.

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03-12-2012, 11:55 AM
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There's bunch of idiot fans that follow the habs and management is just as dumb but a few of us knew we got robbed,heck a few of us knew we got robbed for SK when the trade went down.All the credit goes to you guys,wish Montreal was run more like Nashville,enjoy AK46 and good luck in the playoffs,there's another talent in St-louis that we let go who's going to be waiting for you in net.
And a fast, 20 goal forward in St.Louis if he gets healthy who we let go. Plus a couple of offensively dangerous forwards in Dallas who we let go. And a couple of defensive forwards who can chip in with scoring in Vancouver. We let them go too. And if the Preds make the Finals and face the Rangers, there is a young, top pairing Dman you would face, who we let go. And that doesn't include all the others who have found their way to other teams who you aren't so likely to face.

Out of interest, how many players have left Nashville and gone on to contribute to their new team in a positive manner? Do you folks see lots of former Preds around the league who have become better players since leaving? Sorry for going a bit off topic but would be interesting to see how another fanbase sees their teams draftees around the league.

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03-12-2012, 12:08 PM
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And a fast, 20 goal forward in St.Louis if he gets healthy who we let go. Plus a couple of offensively dangerous forwards in Dallas who we let go. And a couple of defensive forwards who can chip in with scoring in Vancouver. We let them go too. And if the Preds make the Finals and face the Rangers, there is a young, top pairing Dman you would face, who we let go. And that doesn't include all the others who have found their way to other teams who you aren't so likely to face.

Out of interest, how many players have left Nashville and gone on to contribute to their new team in a positive manner? Do you folks see lots of former Preds around the league who have become better players since leaving? Sorry for going a bit off topic but would be interesting to see how another fanbase sees their teams draftees around the league.
Im only going to address players who appeared to be not very good here who went elsewhere and did better than theydid in Nashville(obviously Vokoun, Tiomonen, Hartnell and Hamhuis were good when they left and good after they left)

Peverley is the one we "threw away" that gives people the most grief...

Ryan Jones is doing reasonably well, but it is in Edmonton

Santorelli is playing for Florida, not sure he's doing all that great...

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03-12-2012, 12:13 PM
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And a fast, 20 goal forward in St.Louis if he gets healthy who we let go. Plus a couple of offensively dangerous forwards in Dallas who we let go. And a couple of defensive forwards who can chip in with scoring in Vancouver. We let them go too. And if the Preds make the Finals and face the Rangers, there is a young, top pairing Dman you would face, who we let go. And that doesn't include all the others who have found their way to other teams who you aren't so likely to face.

Out of interest, how many players have left Nashville and gone on to contribute to their new team in a positive manner? Do you folks see lots of former Preds around the league who have become better players since leaving? Sorry for going a bit off topic but would be interesting to see how another fanbase sees their teams draftees around the league.
Let's see...

Vokoun was traded at the beginning of the fire sale. He went on to Florida, where he missed the play offs every year. He did have his best statistical season in Florida, but not by a lot. Of course, we didn't draft Vokoun (Montreal did, actually). We just developed him

Timonen has had a pretty good career in Philly, though he is still overpaid. Again, we didn't draft Timonen.

The same can be said about Hartnell. This season he has been spectacular for them this season, but not exactly the consistent 60+ point guy they wanted.

Dan Hamhuis has been good in Vancouver, though I wouldn't say he has been any better there than he was here. His final season here was pretty rough, but during his time here he was a very solid second pairing defenseman.

Paul Kariya left Nashville to go to a "contender", and then signed with St Louis where he mired in irrelevance until he finally retired. Did not draft him.

Jason Arnott bounced from New Jersey, to Washington, to St Louis. He has gone from a top six center here to a third liner. His numbers have obviously gone down. Did not draft

JP Dumont is playing in Switzerland now (I think... I know he's in Europe). Did not draft

Steve Sullivan is having a pretty good season in Pittsburgh. Did not draft

Joel Ward took a huge overpayment, and now Washington fans (and other naysayers) are realizing we were right to not want to even try to match it. Did not draft

Mike Santorelli had a pretty good season in Florida, but seems to have crashed back down to Earth. We did draft him

Cal O'Reilly hasn't really done anything since being waived. We did draft him

The one that people are going to remember for a while is Rich Peverley. He was let go, Atlanta picked him up, he centered a line with Kovalchuk, and he ended up with a 55 point season in 09-10. This year he has 38 points in 49 names so far, but only 9 of those points are goals

Compare that to the players who were drafted by Nashville and are still on the team

Weber, Suter, Legwand, Erat, Hornqvist, Wilson, Smith, Tootoo, Spaling, Bourque, Klein, Josi, Ellis, Rinne, Lindback.

I'd say we kept the best ones, and haven't really been hurt too badly by players leaving aside from the firesale (and that no longer affects the team)

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Let's see...

Vokoun was traded at the beginning of the fire sale. He went on to Florida, where he missed the play offs every year. He did have his best statistical season in Florida, but not by a lot. Of course, we didn't draft Vokoun (Montreal did, actually). We just developed him

Timonen has had a pretty good career in Philly, though he is still overpaid. Again, we didn't draft Timonen.

The same can be said about Hartnell. This season he has been spectacular for them this season, but not exactly the consistent 60+ point guy they wanted.

Dan Hamhuis has been good in Vancouver, though I wouldn't say he has been any better there than he was here. His final season here was pretty rough, but during his time here he was a very solid second pairing defenseman.

Paul Kariya left Nashville to go to a "contender", and then signed with St Louis where he mired in irrelevance until he finally retired. Did not draft him.

Jason Arnott bounced from New Jersey, to Washington, to St Louis. He has gone from a top six center here to a third liner. His numbers have obviously gone down. Did not draft

JP Dumont is playing in Switzerland now (I think... I know he's in Europe). Did not draft

Steve Sullivan is having a pretty good season in Pittsburgh. Did not draft

Joel Ward took a huge overpayment, and now Washington fans (and other naysayers) are realizing we were right to not want to even try to match it. Did not draft

Mike Santorelli had a pretty good season in Florida, but seems to have crashed back down to Earth. We did draft him

Cal O'Reilly hasn't really done anything since being waived. We did draft him

The one that people are going to remember for a while is Rich Peverley. He was let go, Atlanta picked him up, he centered a line with Kovalchuk, and he ended up with a 55 point season in 09-10. This year he has 38 points in 49 names so far, but only 9 of those points are goals

Compare that to the players who were drafted by Nashville and are still on the team

Weber, Suter, Legwand, Erat, Hornqvist, Wilson, Smith, Tootoo, Spaling, Bourque, Klein, Josi, Ellis, Rinne, Lindback.

I'd say we kept the best ones, and haven't really been hurt too badly by players leaving aside from the firesale (and that no longer affects the team)
yeah. Fire Poile

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Thanks for the replies. Some interesting info in there. Like Montreal, seems you've let a few guys move on through free agency and been able to replace them from within the organization. I think we've let a few more move on in this manner, mainly due to our great summer rebuild a few years back. And like Montreal, one of the guys you traded away and got a return for was a smaller goaltender, kinda like we did with Halak.

However, in both replies there is specific mention of 'the one that got away' in Peverley. I like the fact that the number of people in this category is pretty much 1. Far different from the Habs who have seen a lot of players who were good or average with us go on to be useful players elsewhere. Most of these players were either yet to reach or only just reaching their prime. If you aren't aware of the Habs asset management troubles in recent years, click here and look at post 186 to compare for yourselves the assets we once had and what we ended up with as a result of them moving on. Not pleasing for a Habs fan to read. On the other end of the spectrum, we've had maybe 3 trades in almost 10 years we can claim to have won (for Kovalev, for Huet/Bonk, for Gorges/1st which became Pacioretty) and a couple more we may have broken even on. On the others, we tend to get the losing end of, if not robbed blind. Leaves us to wonder what would have happened to our team if we could have developed some guys better in the NHL and been more forgiving of their faults and errors in maturing as players and people.

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nary a Dryden sighting? interesting ... #superKostitsynBros

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All right guys, let's not have too much fun at the expense of a poster. There is a point where it goes from friendly prodding to flaming

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All right guys, let's not have too much fun at the expense of a poster. There is a point where it goes from friendly prodding to flaming
sorry TMI ... Dryden and I are on friendly terms ... met him a couple times at Bridgestone Arena with his father. Just poking at him a bit ...


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I'd say Poile is one of the best at what he does! Especially given the internal cap he has always hadto deal with. And we are always competitive. Good on ya David!


All he needs to do now is learn how to draft forwards... With point producing upsides lol

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Well...looks like you might be getting a Top 6 forward back with the possible return of Radulov.

I'm going to be in Nashville the last week of April so I need you guys to have a super deep playoff run so I can catch a game at Bridgestone. Due to your acquisition of Mike Fisher and the SenaPreds bond, you guys are my second favorite team.

GO DEEP! GO PREDS!

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Does anyone worry about the horses pulling the bandwagon if Radulov joins? Might have to make a trade for the Budweiser clidesdales to beef up the pulling team

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Is radulov a top 6 or top 3 guy do you figure in the NHL? Maybe we are better off with him then if we had acquired Carter?

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Is radulov a top 6 or top 3 guy do you figure in the NHL? Maybe we are better off with him then if we had acquired Carter?
has the potential to score 30+each year, and approach 40 in a super year, much like carter.... which would be "top 3" numbers....Id say they would be similar in impact, but obviously no 11 year commitment

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Is radulov a top 6 or top 3 guy do you figure in the NHL? Maybe we are better off with him then if we had acquired Carter?
It really just depends how his game translates to NA ice. Impossible to say at this point.

As for Carter, I never wanted that cancer so yes IMO anything is better than him

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