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True. But some will be good 3rd/4th liners/ 4-5-6 defencemen, they'll be more than enough to build a good bottom 6 out of if the Leafs can figure out their cap and can buy some top-6 players, which they usually look to do.

I'm just saying that the Leafs development system right now is FAR from the worst.
If i was a Leaf fans my real big fear right is if they don't make the play offs they may go in a full panic and trade those good young players for a player or 2 that can help now.

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If i was a Leaf fans my real big fear right is if they don't make the play offs they may go in a full panic and trade those good young players for a player or 2 that can help now.
Keith Aullie was suppose to be better than some of the defencemen they have playing now but they couldn't get him into the lineup. So what do they do, they keep Komiserik & Schenn & trade Aullie away, dumb, dumb, dumb. And People still say what a great GM Burke is & how Murray is too old & that hockey has passed Murray by.

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Keith Aullie was suppose to be better than some of the defencemen they have playing now but they couldn't get him into the lineup. So what do they do, they keep Komiserik & Schenn & trade Aullie away, dumb, dumb, dumb. And People still say what a great GM Burke is & how Murray is too old & that hockey has passed Murray by.
In all fairness, no one would ever trade for Komi and trading Schenn right now would be a bad idea, he's at his lowest value. Schenn is likely going to rebound at one point. Komi...

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In all fairness, no one would ever trade for Komi and trading Schenn right now would be a bad idea, he's at his lowest value. Schenn is likely going to rebound at one point. Komi...
Isn`t that what they said about Schenn last yr & the yr before that. He is what he is a defensive defenceman, a stay at home defenceman with little offensive ability & not all that good defensively. Aullie was bigger, tougher & had some offensive ability to his game more so then Schenn IMO. Oh well, maybe Carter will be a star for them. They could have always waived Komi & sent him to the Marlies which is what they should have done.

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Isn`t that what they said about Schenn last yr & the yr before that. He is what he is a defensive defenceman, a stay at home defenceman with little offensive ability & not all that good defensively. Aullie was bigger, tougher & had some offensive ability to his game more so then Schenn IMO. Oh well, maybe Carter will be a star for them. They could have always waived Komi & sent him to the Marlies which is what they should have done.
They can't waive him, he has a complete No-Move Clause in that albatross of a contract Burke gave him.

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Isn`t that what they said about Schenn last yr & the yr before that. He is what he is a defensive defenceman, a stay at home defenceman with little offensive ability & not all that good defensively. Aullie was bigger, tougher & had some offensive ability to his game more so then Schenn IMO. Oh well, maybe Carter will be a star for them. They could have always waived Komi & sent him to the Marlies which is what they should have done.
I said it before and I'll say it again...Schenn's ceiling is a Chris Phillip's type d-man. The odd thing is, when Chris was drafted, he had an offensive element to his game. I'm pretty sure everyone knew Schenn didn't and yet Fletcher was so enamoured with him, he traded up to get him.

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Keith Aullie was suppose to be better than some of the defencemen they have playing now but they couldn't get him into the lineup. So what do they do, they keep Komiserik & Schenn & trade Aullie away, dumb, dumb, dumb. And People still say what a great GM Burke is & how Murray is too old & that hockey has passed Murray by.
What i can't stand with some Leaf fans is a player like Aule they get him over hype say he is the future then he gets traded and say good he is not a nhl player.

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What i can't stand with some Leaf fans is a player like Aule they get him over hype say he is the future then he gets traded and say good he is not a nhl player.
Hate to burst your bubble, but every fan base has morons fans like that. Toronto has the larger fan base than us and hence, a larger group of morons to deal with.

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Hate to burst your bubble, but every fan base has morons fans like that. Toronto has the larger fan base than us and hence, a larger group of morons to deal with.
Sure but Leafs fans seem to over hype there players way to much when Ottawa drafted Cowen most fans did not say he is going to the be the next Bobby Orr yet when the Leafs drafted Kadri some fans said he will be the next great one.

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What i can't stand with some Leaf fans is a player like Aule they get him over hype say he is the future then he gets traded and say good he is not a nhl player.
Like David Rundblad. This guy was the most overrated prospect I've seen on HF.

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Like David Rundblad. This guy was the most overrated prospect I've seen on HF.
Rundblad has potential to be a top pairing d. Aulie hasnt proven anything that would say he is above a 5 6 d.

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No clue if you guys are following the whole Burke trying to get Don Cherry and Ron MacLean fired drama but this is an interesting article.

Angry NHL clubs ganging up on HNIC, CBC

I like Cherry, I don't always agree with what he says...but HNIC wouldn't be the same without his ranting and those hideous suits - I just can't see HNIC without Coach's Corner. So I hope Burke doesn't get his way, but that's JMO.

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“Kirstine and Jeffrey were invited by [commissioner] Gary Bettman to give an update to the NHL's board of governors on activity CBC has been partnering with the league on, including ... Hockey Day in Canada,” spokesman Chuck Thompson said. “With respect to Coach's Corner, only one team had anything to say about Don Cherry.”
I found teams speaking out about how Leaf obsessed HNIC is interesting especially when it's suppose to represent all 7 Canadian teams. I always see fans speaking out about it but I'm not sure if teams have called out CBC before on the issue, and if they haven't it's about damn time.

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Following CBC's annual presentation to the NHL board in Ottawa, Burke delivered a blistering critique of the program's treatment of him and then-coach Ron Wilson. Other Canadian teams, including the Vancouver Canucks and Ottawa Senators, blasted the network for the Toronto-centric nature of the program and complained about deteriorating journalistic standards
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However, participants of the meeting reported that no one asked for Cherry to be fired, and that Cherry is only one bone of contention with CBC. “I didn't comment at all on [Ron] MacLean or Cherry,” Ottawa owner Eugene Melnyk told The Globe. “My issue dealt with the number of games shown on HNIC that are not Sens games and my concern about how skewed they are to another team that you can easily deduce. ... I wasn't given any concrete response.”
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Three of the seven teams in Canada said that HNIC was mainly concerned with Toronto and very little about other Canadian clubs.
This is probably my only beef with HNIC. It honestly doesn't bug me as much as it use to (I won't lie it use to piss me off to no end, now it's just meh... whatever lol), but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see a change.


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Rundblad has potential to be a top pairing d. Aulie hasnt proven anything that would say he is above a 5 6 d.
What has Rundblad proven?

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No clue if you guys are following the whole Burke trying to get Don Cherry and Ron MacLean fired drama but this is an interesting article.
Wow, fantastic to see TBC being given a dose of reality. Wonder what the NHL will do about this?

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What has Rundblad proven?
high point producer in the sel one of the best in a long time to come from the sel


Aulie hasnt dominated at any stage recently.

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Aulie hasnt dominated at any stage recently.
It's a much different game over there for offensive defencemen. Lots of players that have had great seasons over there haven't been able to put it together over here.

And besides, I don't remember Aulie's hype being anywhere close to Rundblad's.

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It's a much different game over there for offensive defencemen. Lots of players that have had great seasons over there haven't been able to put it together over here.

And besides, I don't remember Aulie's hype being anywhere close to Rundblad's.
sure but my point is Rundblad should be hyped he is doing something that not many SEL d have done


Aulie was touted as Phaneuf D partner for this year and for the near future

he is no where near as good as people made him out to be he isnt even a top 4 d imo

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No clue if you guys are following the whole Burke trying to get Don Cherry and Ron MacLean fired drama but this is an interesting article.

Angry NHL clubs ganging up on HNIC, CBC

I like Cherry, I don't always agree with what he says...but HNIC wouldn't be the same without his ranting and those hideous suits - I just can't see HNIC without Coach's Corner. So I hope Burke doesn't get his way, but that's JMO.



I found teams speaking out about how Leaf obsessed HNIC is interesting especially when it's suppose to represent all 7 Canadian teams. I always see fans speaking out about it but I'm not sure if teams have called out CBC before on the issue, and if they haven't it's about damn time.







This is probably my only beef with HNIC. It honestly doesn't bug me as much as it use to (I won't lie it use to piss me off to no end, now it's just meh... whatever lol), but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see a change.
It's nice to see Eugene sticking up for the club.

It's no secret the Leafs have a larger fanbase than Ottawa, so for the purpose on rating the Leafs are higher on the priority list, but for a broadcaster with exclusive rights AND the fact that it's a public broadcaster that gets taxpayer money to broadcast all Canadian interests, with a specific mandate for more minority Canadian subjects, it's stupid how Toronto is always the default National broadcast.

Without any exposure to the Senators for kids in other areas of the country, it's much harder to gain fans of the team in those areas.

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It's nice to see Eugene sticking up for the club.

It's no secret the Leafs have a larger fanbase than Ottawa, so for the purpose on rating the Leafs are higher on the priority list, but for a broadcaster with exclusive rights AND the fact that it's a public broadcaster that gets taxpayer money to broadcast all Canadian interests, with a specific mandate for more minority Canadian subjects, it's stupid how Toronto is always the default National broadcast.

Without any exposure to the Senators for kids in other areas of the country, it's much harder to gain fans of the team in those areas.
The very least they could do is allow other broadcasters to do games on saturday nights. I could never understand how they have exclusive rights for the whole league.

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The Leafs are soooo ****ed. They don't have a #1 C, #1 D or #1 G. They don't have depth either. They dished out big bucks to Connolly and Liles to fill roles that they aren't capable of filling. They don't really have prospects in the system to fill these needs and they haven't drafted well.

You just know they'll overpay for a #2 goalie this summer and be in the same mess. Pretty much the only thing they have going for them is after next year they only have 7 players under contract (excluding prospects): Kessel, Grabovski, Brown, Phaneuf, Komisarek (lol), Liles, and Schenn. Hardly a good core but at least you can work with it.

If they can replace Burke they might have a chance.
Did you say "overpay"? ... With what? $$$

J. Lupul - T. Bozak - P. Kessel
MacArthur - Grabovski - ______
Lombardi - Connolly - Armstrong
_______ - Steckel - M.Brown

Phaneuf - Gunnarsson
Liles - Gardiner
Komisarek - Schenn

Reimer - _____

Those 17 players + Tucker's $1M buyout account for $57M on next years cap.

RFA = Kulemin, Franson, Frattin, Rosehill
UFA -Gustavsson

Burke will barely be able to keep this team together, let alone add to it.

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Good to see Eugene blast CBC for being Toronto biased and not airing enough Sens games nationwide. My main problem isn't Cherry as some stuff he says are crazy or at times bang on.

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No clue if you guys are following the whole Burke trying to get Don Cherry and Ron MacLean fired drama but this is an interesting article.

Angry NHL clubs ganging up on HNIC, CBC

I like Cherry, I don't always agree with what he says...but HNIC wouldn't be the same without his ranting and those hideous suits - I just can't see HNIC without Coach's Corner. So I hope Burke doesn't get his way, but that's JMO.



I found teams speaking out about how Leaf obsessed HNIC is interesting especially when it's suppose to represent all 7 Canadian teams. I always see fans speaking out about it but I'm not sure if teams have called out CBC before on the issue, and if they haven't it's about damn time.







This is probably my only beef with HNIC. It honestly doesn't bug me as much as it use to (I won't lie it use to piss me off to no end, now it's just meh... whatever lol), but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like to see a change.
It drives me nuts to hear this. We have some American blowhard coming up here and trying to ruin a Canadian institution? **** that. Cherry is as much of a symbol for Canada as the maple leaf (an image Burke has already ruined, btw lol). It'll be a national day of mourning should Cherry ever pass, god forbid. And this fat head attention ***** is trying to take that on? Get on his level, Burke, and maybe you can talk.

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