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Radulov back to Nashville; Should play Thurs. vs Penguins
The NHL does not, and has not, recognized the legitimacy of Radulov's contract with the KHL.
By all appearances, he is still under contract with NSH.
Because his contract with UFA is not legitimate in the eyes of the NHL, for all they care, he is on vacation, and playing some pickup hockey with his pals.
He will not have to clear waivers to return his services to his team.
I'd love you to point to the portion of the CBA that says this.
The onus is on you to find a part of the CBA that declares he must go through waivers. You are pushing the condition.
That he can play for Nashville without going through waivers because the NHL doesn't recognize his KHL contract as legitimate.
Quote:
13.23 In the event a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside
North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season, other than on Loan from his
Club, he may thereafter play in the NHL during that Playing Season (including Playoffs)
only if he has first either cleared or been obtained via Waivers. For the balance of the
Playing Season, any such Player who has been obtained via Waivers may be Traded or
Loaned only after again clearing Waivers or through Waiver claim
So yeah, the only way he plays in the NHL again this season is if it's for Columbus, or traded from Columbus.
I find it funny that when Radulov left that Preds fans were screaming about him leaving.
Now that there is a possibility of him coming back there are some fans screaming about him coming back.
In the last 10 games the Preds have only had 1 game of 1 goal or less and averaging 3.1 goals a game in those 10 games while holding opponents to 2.3 goals.
Yes I am curious about Radulov but the team is looking pretty damned good now.
In order for a player under contract in an NHL team to be recognized by the IHHF, NHL, et al, as playing in another league, be it KHL, SEL, et al, that player, or team, must have a legitimate contract to declare that the player is participating in that other league.
By the consideration of the NHL, Radulov's contract with UFA and the KHL is NOT legitimate, as it was not sanctioned by them, or Nashville.
By those terms, Radulov is NOT playing officially in the KHL. He is simply playing hockey, as they do not recognize the legitimacy of his contract with that league (which declares he is playing in that league).
Since he is not recognized as being part of another league (he is still considered to be on the Nashville Predators, only suspended), he will not have to go through re-entry.
For all considerations, Radulov is suspended, on extended leave without pay, in Russia, playing ice hockey with a lot of friends.
"a professional or former professional Player plays in a league outside North America after the start of the NHL Regular Season"
That's Radulov's situation, no?
No, as Ometheus said: "By the consideration of the NHL, Radulov's contract with UFA and the KHL is NOT legitimate, as it was not sanctioned by them, or Nashville. "
Therefore in the eyes of the NHL, he does not play in a league outside the NA. You can't play in a league without a contract and if the contract isn't legitmate, then in the eyes on NHL he's not playing in the KHL.
Show me where 13.23 requires the Player's contract in the other league to be recognized by the NHL, IIHF, or any other body.
For a player to be recognized as playing in an official league, that player must have a contract with that league. That is the structure of ALL hockey leagues considered official. If that contract is not considered legitimate, that player is considered to be not playing in that league. There is no logical fallacy there.
If the term 'league' in 13.23, did not require that league to be official, and therefore require legitimate contracts for its players, then an NHL player playing ANY hockey outside of NA, be it pick-up, shinny, or simply skating on the ice with other people, would have to go through re-entry waivers.
However, that is not the case.
Also, the CBA in question applies to the NHL, and all its players. Of course, Radulov's return will be dependant on clearance from the NHLPA.
No, as Ometheus said: "By the consideration of the NHL, Radulov's contract with UFA and the KHL is NOT legitimate, as it was not sanctioned by them, or Nashville. "
Therefore in the eyes of the NHL, he does not play in a league outside the NA. You can't play in a league without a contract and if the contract isn't legitmate, then in the eyes on NHL he's not playing in the KHL.
Sure you can play in a league without a contract. Where does the CBA say it matters? It doesn't even specify that the league outside of NA has to be a professional league.
Essentially, you're saying that if a NHL team drafted a player out of a European amateur league (i.e., the player is not under contract), that the NHL team would be able to sign the player at any time during the season, and he'd be able to play for them without passing through waivers?
For a player to be recognized as playing in an official league, that player must have a contract with that league. That is the structure of ALL leagues. If that contract is not considered legitimate, that player is considered to be not playing in that league. There is no logical fallacy there.
If the term 'league' in 13.23, did not require that league to be official, and therefore require legitimate contracts for its players, then an NHL player playing ANY hockey outside of NA, be it pick-up, shinny, or simply skating on the ice with other people, would have to go through re-entry waivers.
However, that is not the case.
Also, the CBA in question applies to the NHL, and all its players. Of course, Radulov's return will be dependant on clearance from the NHLPA.
Again, where's the legal basis, as outlined by the NHL, the NHLPA, or the CBA, for this business about requiring a 'legitimate' contract with another league?
Sure you can play in a league without a contract. Where does the CBA say it matters? It doesn't even specify that the league outside of NA has to be a professional league.
Essentially, you're saying that if a NHL team drafted a player out of a European amateur league (i.e., the player is not under contract), that the NHL team would be able to sign the player at any time during the season, and he'd be able to play for them without passing through waivers?
No, Radulov is under contract with Nashville.
In the eyes of the NHL, he's been awol from that contract and not been playing hockey anywhere else.
Again, where's the legal basis, as outlined by the NHL, the NHLPA, or the CBA, for this business about requiring a 'legitimate' contract with another league?
There are always semantics when it comes to agreements like this. I don't know that he's correct but, it definitely seems reasonable that the NHL may not legally recognize that Radulov is playing hockey.
We'll see. It seems pretty cut and dry to me. The portion of the CBA cited says absolutely nothing about contracts or transfer agreements.
NHLPA would likely file for the waiver condition on Radulov's contract to be ignored. Every time the PA has filed for one of these in the past it has gone through, so it is likely that is what would occur in this situation.
There are always semantics when it comes to agreements like this. I don't know that he's correct but, it definitely seems reasonable that the NHL may not legally recognize that Radulov is playing hockey.
Sure, there's a possibility that the NHL ignores the CBA again, but all this talk about legitimate contracts and that he's not actually played in another league is nothing but unsourced assumptions and conjecture without any published legal basis.
I'll believe it when it happens, and I'm quite sure the Ken Holland, Stan Bowman, et al. will make their objections known.
