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03-09-2012, 09:59 AM
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2012 top D vs previous years

Since the Oilers need a good defenceman and are likely going to be in a position to draft one, I'm wondering how the top guys from 2012 (Murray, Dumba) compare to previous top defenceman.

How would you rank these players as prospects at the time they were drafted? (or now for the 2012 guys)


Adam Larsson
Erik Gudbranson
Victor Hedman
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Drew Doughty
Zach Bogosian
Alex Pietrangelo
Luke Schenn
Karl Alzner
Erik Johnson
Ryan Murray
Matthew Dumba
Any other 2012 defenceman you want to compare

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Erik Johnson
Drew Doughty
Victor Hedman
Adam Larsson
Alex Pietrangelo
Zach Bogosian
Luke Schenn
Erik Gudbranson
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Karl Alzner

Didnt include Murray or Dumba as they are not drafted. Lots of hype around them, however very weak draft with barley any offensive pottential to knock them off of their podium. Most of these guys were slotted ahead of offensive powerhouse players. But if they were all in their "draft years" and they hadnt yet played a game in the NHL. This is how i would see it shaking out.

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Since the Oilers need a good defenceman and are likely going to be in a position to draft one, I'm wondering how the top guys from 2012 (Murray, Dumba) compare to previous top defenceman.

How would you rank these players as prospects at the time they were drafted? (or now for the 2012 guys)


Adam Larsson
Erik Gudbranson
Victor Hedman
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Drew Doughty
Zach Bogosian
Alex Pietrangelo
Luke Schenn
Karl Alzner
Erik Johnson
Ryan Murray
Matthew Dumba
Any other 2012 defenceman you want to compare
1. Adam Larsson
2. Drew Doughty
3. Erik Johnson
4. Alex Pietrangelo
5. Oliver Ekman-Larsson

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Erik Johnson
Drew Doughty
Victor Hedman
Adam Larsson
Alex Pietrangelo
Zach Bogosian
Luke Schenn
Erik Gudbranson
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Karl Alzner

Didnt include Murray or Dumba as they are not drafted. Lots of hype around them, however very weak draft with barley any offensive pottential to knock them off of their podium. Most of these guys were slotted ahead of offensive powerhouse players. But if they were all in their "draft years" and they hadnt yet played a game in the NHL. This is how i would see it shaking out.
Basically what I'm looking for is how they rate compared to those other defenceman as prospects. Obviously we don't know how the 2012 guys will develop, but I'm wondering how they compare going into the draft.

I get the sense that Murray/Dumba/Etc are a clear level below the likes of Doughty, Hedman, Larsson, and Pietrangelo. Is that true?

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Before the draft:

Erik Johnson
Victor Hedman
Drew Doughty
Adam Larsson
Alex Pietrangelo
Erik Gudbranson
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Matthew Dumba
Zach Bogosian
Ryan Murray
Luke Schenn
Karl Alzner

If we were to talk about current expectations/potentials, Pietrangelo would be moved to the top, Hedman would go downa little, and Alzner would be bumped up. Obviously Dumba and Murray would stay the same.

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Before the draft:

Erik Johnson
Victor Hedman
Drew Doughty
Adam Larsson
Alex Pietrangelo
Erik Gudbranson
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Matthew Dumba
Zach Bogosian
Ryan Murray
Luke Schenn
Karl Alzner

If we were to talk about current expectations/potentials, Pietrangelo would be moved to the top, Hedman would go downa little, and Alzner would be bumped up. Obviously Dumba and Murray would stay the same.
Hahaha Alzner is the caps best d man, talk about underrated.

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Hahaha Alzner is the caps best d man, talk about underrated.
He is rating them based on what they were like before draft. Alzner being best D in Caps is irrelevant.

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Hahaha Alzner is the caps best d man, talk about underrated.
I said he'd be bumped up

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